15-03-2018, 09:19 PM
In response to a discussion of the role of Nazis in the JFK assassination, let me suggest the following;
One of the biggest impediments to solving the JFK case is the fact that we only come up with the important questions to ask when we are driving, laying in bed at night, waiting at the dentist's office, etc. Serendipity.
So, let's just ask:
1) Was the JFK plot planned or did it happen by people making it up "on the fly"? Arguably, Sirhan Sirhan decided on impulse to shoot Robert Kennedy. Did the JFK hit happen like that? Answer: Obviously not!
2) If the JFK plot were planned in advance, on what scale would it have been planned? Only in Dallas, only in Dallas and New Orleans, etc? Answer: Since it involved "fixing" at the Pentagon and influencing Military Intelligence, it was obviously broader than just Dallas and New Orleans.
3) Since it was planned on at least a nationwide scale, was it planned by an individual or a committee?
Answer: Even if it were planned by a committee, there would have to be a quarterback who was acting in real time to react to crises, such as if JFK didn't get hit and killed or if Oswald had called in sick on 11-22-63.
4) Who would have had the skills to lead such an operation and/or plan it? Answer: It had to be someone who had experience planning large-scale assassinations which impacted an entire nation.
5) Of known suspects, who had that level of skill? Answer: Allen Dulles, General Charles Willoughby, General Reinhard Gehlen, and Nazis who were involved in Operation Valkyrie, the plot to kill Hitler.
6) Which one of these people did the planning? Answer: No matter which one you pick, the path still leads back to those involved with Operation Valkyrie. Dulles was intimately involved with the Paperclip Nazis, Gehlen too, Willoughby claimed to have connections to "Wilhelmine Germany" and was likely a German Spy, General Adolf Heusinger was standing next to Hitler when the bomb went off: he also commanded around 400 people at the Pentagon on 11-22-63 in his NATO position. And there are many more such as Dornberger, von Braun, Countess Podewils, etc. etc.
It's my opinion that there were only people who would have had the experience to confidently plan a plot of such scope. I think it would have to be people who had spent more than 10 years involved in the paranoid intrigue that governed the German General Staff and the Nazi heirarchy. There were plenty of people in this category involved in the USA on 11-22-63.
All of this excludes, of course, people in the Khrushchev government in the Soviet Union, and people in MI6 and/or the British SOE who had assassinated General Reinhard Heydrich in Czechoslovakia.
Although General Charles Willoughby had been in charge of intelligence under MacArthur and had planned intel operations on a nationwide (Japan) scale, its unlikely that he and MacArthur planned or carried out assassination plots affecting the whole of Japan.
Add to this the fact that Private Eugene B Dinkin was working within 120 miles of Bonn, Germany and still got advanced knowledge of the plot. Dinkin was able to name the category of people who were behind the plot. This is almost definitive proof that the plot was hatched and/or planned over in Europe and probably in Bonn or Pullach, Bavaria. I guess I lean toward Pullach because of its seclusion.
As for who paid the money for the JFK plot, (because of money-laundering machinery), there is no way to even remotely guess who all contributed financially.
James Lateer
One of the biggest impediments to solving the JFK case is the fact that we only come up with the important questions to ask when we are driving, laying in bed at night, waiting at the dentist's office, etc. Serendipity.
So, let's just ask:
1) Was the JFK plot planned or did it happen by people making it up "on the fly"? Arguably, Sirhan Sirhan decided on impulse to shoot Robert Kennedy. Did the JFK hit happen like that? Answer: Obviously not!
2) If the JFK plot were planned in advance, on what scale would it have been planned? Only in Dallas, only in Dallas and New Orleans, etc? Answer: Since it involved "fixing" at the Pentagon and influencing Military Intelligence, it was obviously broader than just Dallas and New Orleans.
3) Since it was planned on at least a nationwide scale, was it planned by an individual or a committee?
Answer: Even if it were planned by a committee, there would have to be a quarterback who was acting in real time to react to crises, such as if JFK didn't get hit and killed or if Oswald had called in sick on 11-22-63.
4) Who would have had the skills to lead such an operation and/or plan it? Answer: It had to be someone who had experience planning large-scale assassinations which impacted an entire nation.
5) Of known suspects, who had that level of skill? Answer: Allen Dulles, General Charles Willoughby, General Reinhard Gehlen, and Nazis who were involved in Operation Valkyrie, the plot to kill Hitler.
6) Which one of these people did the planning? Answer: No matter which one you pick, the path still leads back to those involved with Operation Valkyrie. Dulles was intimately involved with the Paperclip Nazis, Gehlen too, Willoughby claimed to have connections to "Wilhelmine Germany" and was likely a German Spy, General Adolf Heusinger was standing next to Hitler when the bomb went off: he also commanded around 400 people at the Pentagon on 11-22-63 in his NATO position. And there are many more such as Dornberger, von Braun, Countess Podewils, etc. etc.
It's my opinion that there were only people who would have had the experience to confidently plan a plot of such scope. I think it would have to be people who had spent more than 10 years involved in the paranoid intrigue that governed the German General Staff and the Nazi heirarchy. There were plenty of people in this category involved in the USA on 11-22-63.
All of this excludes, of course, people in the Khrushchev government in the Soviet Union, and people in MI6 and/or the British SOE who had assassinated General Reinhard Heydrich in Czechoslovakia.
Although General Charles Willoughby had been in charge of intelligence under MacArthur and had planned intel operations on a nationwide (Japan) scale, its unlikely that he and MacArthur planned or carried out assassination plots affecting the whole of Japan.
Add to this the fact that Private Eugene B Dinkin was working within 120 miles of Bonn, Germany and still got advanced knowledge of the plot. Dinkin was able to name the category of people who were behind the plot. This is almost definitive proof that the plot was hatched and/or planned over in Europe and probably in Bonn or Pullach, Bavaria. I guess I lean toward Pullach because of its seclusion.
As for who paid the money for the JFK plot, (because of money-laundering machinery), there is no way to even remotely guess who all contributed financially.
James Lateer