The OKC Bombing thread: Surveillance Camera Footage

[Richard Booth]

Last night I was going through a large batch of FBI documents from 2005 when I came across something that was very unsettling, to say the least.

This batch of FBI documents from 2005 concerns Terry Nichols, who is currently imprisoned at the Colorado Supermax facility for his role in the attack.  In 2005, Nichols was scheduled to be interviewed by Congressman Dana Rohrabacher whose committee was investigating terrorism.

To facilitate this interview, FBI Denver had to coordinate things.  They controlled access to Nichols, set up the interviews, and so forth.

Among these 2005 documents there are some really interesting things.  I'll list a couple of them here.  One document says that Terry Nichols knows who 'John Doe #2' is, but that he fears for his life and the life of his family if he mentions the guy's name.  Several pages of these documents have Nichols talking about John Doe #2.  Nichols mentions that others were involved in the bombing who have not been identified or apprehended.  He also says at least one of these people was an informant.

For those who don't know, 'John Doe #2' was a man who was with Timothy McVeigh when the Ryder truck was rented on April 17th.  He was seen at Elliott's Body Shop by four witnesses, with Timothy McVeigh. He was also in the Ryder truck with Timothy McVeigh when they delivered the bomb on April 19th, spotted by over two dozen witnesses. Several sketches were made of this suspect, and he was never identified, or apprehended. 

To this day, John Doe #2's identity remains unknown. 

The FBI, publicly, claims that the man doesn't exist.  This explanation, of course, makes no sense when you consider what all of the witnesses saw, which was Timothy McVeigh with another person. Terry Nichols was in Kansas on April 19th---so who was this other guy who was with McVeigh?

Well, going back to the 2005 FBI documents I've been going through, something really stood out on one of the documents. 

This document says that "DTOU expressed concern regarding John Doe #2's name surfacing during the Congressman's interview."

DTOU is the FBI's Domestic Terrorism Operations Unit.  This is the part of the FBI that does operational work against domestic terrorism targets---sting operations, undercover operations, infiltration, that sort of thing.

Now, why the hell would FBI's DTOU be worried about John Doe #2's name surfacing?  Isn't their job to identify suspects, not to suppress or otherwise prevent the identification of suspects?  In what situation would DTOU want a suspect's name to be protected?

Think about this:  the FBI unit that is responsible for doing sting operations and undercover terrorism investigations was worried that John Doe #2's name might surface.  Why would this group be worried?  What possible reason would they have for wanting John Doe #2's name to continue to be unknown?

The only explanation is that John Doe #2 was either an undercover agent or an operational asset and if his name surfaced, it could be linked to DTOU and this would reveal FBI complicity in the bombing.

It's not too far fetched: look to the first World Trade Center bombing.  The FBI had operational assets within that bombing conspiracy, and in fact, those FBI informants actually recorded their conversations with their FBI handlers and this came out in the news, on the front page of the NY Times.  This was just a couple years before Oklahoma City.  And we've seen this thing continue, in recent years there have been several stories about how some idiot got caught up in an FBI sting operation whereby the FBI provided the 'suspect' with explosives, or fake explosives, and they gave the person material assistance to carry out a terrorist attack.  The suspect shows up to carry out the attack, and he gets busted for it.  There was a recent example of this in Oklahoma City where a mentally unhinged person was pulled into a plot to bomb a bank--and it was undercover FBI agents who were providing him with encouragement for the attack and material support.  There is another case just like that one in Michigan, were a seemingly deranged individual was given funding and assistance by the FBI, even providing the unemployed man with rides to and from Home Depot to pick up ingredients for pipe bombs.  So this is the kind of undercover thing that FBI counterterroism did in the 90s, and DTOU does today.

It is with this in mind that I think that in April of 1995, it seems the FBI must have had a similar undercover asset or informant in the Oklahoma City Bombing operation, and THAT would be why DTOU was 'concerned' about John Doe #2's name surfacing.

We must ask ourselves, WHY would the Domestic Terrorism Operations Unit be 'worried' or 'concerned' about a suspect being identified?  

Another thing: DTOU also wanted to direct the scope of the interview with Terry Nichols. They wanted the discussions to be exclusively about International Terrorism (IT) -- or a possible foreign connection to the bombing.  Which is to say, they didn't want possible domestic accomplices discussed.  

DTOU's position here is revealing.  They didn't want to hear any talk about domestic accomplices and they damn sure didn't want John Doe #2's name revealed.  We have to ask why.

--Richard