15-02-2012, 06:47 AM
Jan, Peter, Keith, Ed,
I miss a day of reading Forum and this one subject exploded with posts!
The Pont-St.-Esprit "experiment" was never intended to be scientific, but merely to see if crazy people could resist an invasdion of their little town. There may have been 'observers' planted, but most of the results were tabulated from witness reports, weren't they?
Ed, in quoting Albarelli on the types of minds that cooked up these ideas and carried them out, it demonstrates that the CIA and their ilk had no knowledge or understanding of what they were doing. Remember the CIA plan to project a huge holographic image of Jesus Christ on the horizon so the Cubans, most being religious, might think Jesus was coming to earth and to them? Or, filling a radio broadcast studio with LSD aerosol when Fidel Castro would deliver one of his hours-long speeches to the Cuban people, so that he would appear crazy and silly? They did not know or have any idea of how good Castro's intelligence and security people were. How many times did they try to kill Castro and didn't succeed once? JFK should have had that kind of protection.
It's important to know that ergot, produced by a fungus which lives on grain grasses, such as rye, does not contain LSD. LSD-25 was synthesized by Albert Hofmann in 1938 from ergotamine. He was creating compounds for medical use and this was the 25th one he had made. The chemical name of LSD is Lysergic acid diethylamide. Not much was done with it until 1943. LSD can be decomposed by high heat, as in baking bread, but ergot is not. In the Middle Ages, ergot toxicity affected people in towns and villages because the rye or other flour was tainted with ergot. The last such event occurred in Russia in 1926-1927.
I think bread loaves in Pont-St-Esprit may have been deliberately baked with ergot, or sptinkled with LSD to give the impression to the town's people that they had suffered from ergot poisoning and nothing more. The symptoms of ergot poisoning, as Peter noted, generally are less severe than those of LSD.
The human lethal dose has been estimated to be in the range of 200 micrograms per kilogram of body weight to 1 milligram per kilogram of body weight. A milligram is one-thousandth of a gram; a microgram is one-millionth of a gram. A gram is the weight of I milliliter of water (or 1 cubic centimetetr of water, ml. = cc.). A kilogram is 2.2 pounds of weight.
Tusko received 297 milligrams total of LSD, and weighed 3000 kilograms, or 9 milligrams per kilogram of body weight. I believe this animal was to be euthanized because of age and illnesses, but it also received a barbiturate and a tranquilizer, which may have also compromised its breathing mechanism. By estimates of human lethal doses, 9 milligrams per kilogram was an exceptionally high lethal dose.
Thank you for sharing your experiences with LSD. Did you know that in animal studies with radioactive LSD, exceptionally small amounts were found in the brain, mostly in the
occipital cortex which is where visual images are perceived? Greater concentrations of LSD were in the liver, kidneys, and urine, the main excretion route.
Adele
I miss a day of reading Forum and this one subject exploded with posts!
The Pont-St.-Esprit "experiment" was never intended to be scientific, but merely to see if crazy people could resist an invasdion of their little town. There may have been 'observers' planted, but most of the results were tabulated from witness reports, weren't they?
Ed, in quoting Albarelli on the types of minds that cooked up these ideas and carried them out, it demonstrates that the CIA and their ilk had no knowledge or understanding of what they were doing. Remember the CIA plan to project a huge holographic image of Jesus Christ on the horizon so the Cubans, most being religious, might think Jesus was coming to earth and to them? Or, filling a radio broadcast studio with LSD aerosol when Fidel Castro would deliver one of his hours-long speeches to the Cuban people, so that he would appear crazy and silly? They did not know or have any idea of how good Castro's intelligence and security people were. How many times did they try to kill Castro and didn't succeed once? JFK should have had that kind of protection.
It's important to know that ergot, produced by a fungus which lives on grain grasses, such as rye, does not contain LSD. LSD-25 was synthesized by Albert Hofmann in 1938 from ergotamine. He was creating compounds for medical use and this was the 25th one he had made. The chemical name of LSD is Lysergic acid diethylamide. Not much was done with it until 1943. LSD can be decomposed by high heat, as in baking bread, but ergot is not. In the Middle Ages, ergot toxicity affected people in towns and villages because the rye or other flour was tainted with ergot. The last such event occurred in Russia in 1926-1927.
I think bread loaves in Pont-St-Esprit may have been deliberately baked with ergot, or sptinkled with LSD to give the impression to the town's people that they had suffered from ergot poisoning and nothing more. The symptoms of ergot poisoning, as Peter noted, generally are less severe than those of LSD.
The human lethal dose has been estimated to be in the range of 200 micrograms per kilogram of body weight to 1 milligram per kilogram of body weight. A milligram is one-thousandth of a gram; a microgram is one-millionth of a gram. A gram is the weight of I milliliter of water (or 1 cubic centimetetr of water, ml. = cc.). A kilogram is 2.2 pounds of weight.
Tusko received 297 milligrams total of LSD, and weighed 3000 kilograms, or 9 milligrams per kilogram of body weight. I believe this animal was to be euthanized because of age and illnesses, but it also received a barbiturate and a tranquilizer, which may have also compromised its breathing mechanism. By estimates of human lethal doses, 9 milligrams per kilogram was an exceptionally high lethal dose.
Thank you for sharing your experiences with LSD. Did you know that in animal studies with radioactive LSD, exceptionally small amounts were found in the brain, mostly in the
occipital cortex which is where visual images are perceived? Greater concentrations of LSD were in the liver, kidneys, and urine, the main excretion route.
Adele