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Saint Fletcher the Obscure
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Adrian Mack Wrote:Thanks Jan.

Is this statement by Coppens not true?

Quote:Still, he claimed to have managed an exclusive interview with a "purported member of the Iron Mountain Special Study Group", who told Prouty he "believes that the group's mission was delineated by McNamara, William Bundy, and Dean Rusk."

If Coppens is basing his statement about Prouty's view of "Iron Mountain" on the quotes I've transcribed in this thread, then in my judgement it's a misinterpretation.

Prouty clearly states that he has spoken with the author of the novel "Iron Mountain", Leonard Lewin, and suggests that the contents of the fictional Report within the novel "Iron Mountain" reflect insider elite thinking.

I find Prouty's comments entirely reasonable.

I also suspect that in JFK: The CIA, Vietnam and the Plot to Assassinate John F Kennedy, Prouty may be using "Iron Mountain" as a shorthand device articulating the type of thinking that was really taking place behind closed doors.

I have no problem with that either. Indeed, it serves its purpose well, even if such as Coppens have used it as fodder to attempt to bash Prouty.

However, I am still concerned about the claims that Prouty served as a witness, through affidavit, for L Ron Hubbard - testifying to Hubbard's military and intelligence service record, and possibly character.

If this is the loyalty of a friend and fellow combatant to a friend and fellow combatant, then so be it. However, Prouty must have known the real nature of the Church of Scientology. And that remains troubling to me.

Again with the caveat that the claims of the Prouty affidavit are unproven.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

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Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Charles Drago - 26-01-2011, 11:25 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Jan Klimkowski - 26-01-2011, 11:43 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Jack White - 27-01-2011, 12:16 AM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Keith Millea - 27-01-2011, 01:02 AM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Charles Drago - 27-01-2011, 01:12 AM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Phil Dragoo - 27-01-2011, 01:24 AM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Jim DiEugenio - 27-01-2011, 04:18 AM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Bernice Moore - 27-01-2011, 08:25 AM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Dawn Meredith - 27-01-2011, 03:22 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Malcolm Pryce - 27-01-2011, 03:24 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Peter Presland - 27-01-2011, 03:41 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Jim DiEugenio - 27-01-2011, 03:49 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Albert Doyle - 27-01-2011, 04:21 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Adrian Mack - 27-01-2011, 06:27 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Jan Klimkowski - 27-01-2011, 08:25 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Keith Millea - 27-01-2011, 08:53 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by David Guyatt - 27-01-2011, 09:20 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Jan Klimkowski - 27-01-2011, 10:32 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Jan Klimkowski - 27-01-2011, 11:06 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Bernice Moore - 28-01-2011, 04:35 AM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Peter Lemkin - 28-01-2011, 07:49 AM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Bernice Moore - 28-01-2011, 01:11 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Bernice Moore - 28-01-2011, 01:34 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Greg Burnham - 28-01-2011, 03:00 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Seamus Coogan - 28-01-2011, 04:12 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by David Guyatt - 28-01-2011, 05:01 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Peter Lemkin - 28-01-2011, 05:02 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Adrian Mack - 28-01-2011, 05:49 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Peter Lemkin - 28-01-2011, 06:26 PM
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Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Jan Klimkowski - 28-01-2011, 11:05 PM
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Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Adrian Mack - 29-01-2011, 12:06 AM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Charles Drago - 29-01-2011, 02:44 AM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Jim DiEugenio - 29-01-2011, 03:10 AM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Greg Burnham - 29-01-2011, 04:02 AM
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Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Paul Rigby - 01-02-2011, 10:14 PM
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Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by James Lewis - 17-02-2011, 11:26 PM
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Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Seamus Coogan - 18-02-2011, 01:57 AM
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Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Bernice Moore - 23-02-2011, 01:07 PM
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Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by James Lewis - 23-02-2011, 10:08 PM
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Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Bernice Moore - 25-02-2011, 08:24 AM
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Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Bernice Moore - 29-11-2011, 04:50 AM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Bernice Moore - 14-07-2013, 06:43 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Jan Klimkowski - 14-07-2013, 07:22 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Bernice Moore - 23-07-2013, 10:43 AM
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