10-08-2018, 06:55 PM
When you, Mr. Lemkin, posit that the wealthy were the ones who were rabid anti-Communists, that might seem like an obvious reality. However, when I dig down deeper into this question, the situation looks a little different. I would add as follows:
1. The Bush family, Clarence Dillon of Dillon Read and J P Kennedy all had some sympathies toward Nazi Germany, but IMHO that was because they were actually doing business with Germany on a large scale and it didn't matter whether it was Hitler, Hindenberg or Adenauer.
2. The adamant opposition to Communism had to be viewed on a country by country basis. For instance, the US Army commanders assumed that the cooperation with Stalin would continue indefinitely after WWII because it had paid such dividends. They were quickly re-educated about that.
3. There was never any possibility that the US would go Communist. In the election where Hitler came to power in 1933, the Communists got 12.4% of the vote. In the US, Communists were allowed to be on the ballot, but received only 100K votes out of, say, 30 million.
4. The fervent opposition to the "loss of China" (the first Red Scare) was led by Protestant Evangelical missionary interests. Chiang Kai-Shek was a Methodist. The actual John Birch himself was a Protestant missionary.
5. The Second Red Scare led by McCarthy (related to E. Europe) was pushed by an alliance of Russian Orthodox folks from the Tolstoy Foundation in co-operation with Catholic interests led by McCarthy and his allies.
6. The most important fact of all is that after the Battle of Stalingrad, the Nazis knew they would lose WWII. They immediately made long-range plans for the aftermath of the War. The leaders of this European strategy for the US were Allen Dulles and diplomat Robert Murphy. That's why the US chose to occupy Bavaria, (the Catholic portion of Germany).
7. Only the incompetent Nazis like Goering got captured, tried and hanged at Nuremberg. It was the smarter, Catholic-connected, Austrian-connected, Munich-connected, Vatican-connected Nazis like Heinrich Muller, Otto Skorzeny, Martin Bormann and Eichmann who kept right on truckin' after the War. They had pre-planned starting in 1943 and had millions overseas by 1945. They invented the myth of the Alpine Fortress of Hitler. This justified Ike invading Catholic Bavaria and leaving the rest to the UK and the USSR.
8. The master plan, implemented by Adenauer was to DELIBERATELY HAND OVER THE PROTESTANT AREAS OF GERMANY TO THE RUSSIANS. What most people didn't know is that Adenauer and the Austrian/Catholic Nazis wanted Germany divided so that the Catholic culture would be in the majority. Don't forget that Hitler was both Catholic and Austrian and put those priorities ahead of Germany as a whole (during his entire life right up to the end).
9. That is why the European Union was kept "small" by Adenauer and only included Catholic France, Catholic Italy and the Catholic rump of Germany known as West Germany.
10. It was the murder of JFK and the accession of Protestant German Ludwig Erhard that spelled the end of this pro-Catholic run in Germany. It lasted from Hitler's succession in 1933 to the murder of JFK in 1963.
11. Once Ludwig Erhard took over (October, 1963), the rabid anti-Communists in both the US and Germany fell somewhat from power. LBJ was friendly with German Socialist Willi Brandt and the CDU/CSU party of Adenauer was forced to make a "Grand Coalition" with the Socialist SPD. Finally, in the 1970,s the Socialists took power in Germany under Willi Brandt.
12. Once the exclusive Catholic activist grip on West Germany was broken, all of a sudden the UK and the Protestant countries began to gain access to the EU.
13. The reason why the Adenauer Germans murdered JFK is because he was considered a turncoat Catholic by them. JFK was also considering a re-unification of Germany under a poliltically neutral plan (called the Rapacki Plan). This would have restored Germany to a Prussian and Protestant majority. Adenauer hated the Prussians and didn't like the Protestants all that much, either.
So there you have my latest explanation for the motive for the Skorzeny-involved murder of JFK. JFK made the mistake of flirting with a neutral and Protestant reunified Germany.
James Lateer
1. The Bush family, Clarence Dillon of Dillon Read and J P Kennedy all had some sympathies toward Nazi Germany, but IMHO that was because they were actually doing business with Germany on a large scale and it didn't matter whether it was Hitler, Hindenberg or Adenauer.
2. The adamant opposition to Communism had to be viewed on a country by country basis. For instance, the US Army commanders assumed that the cooperation with Stalin would continue indefinitely after WWII because it had paid such dividends. They were quickly re-educated about that.
3. There was never any possibility that the US would go Communist. In the election where Hitler came to power in 1933, the Communists got 12.4% of the vote. In the US, Communists were allowed to be on the ballot, but received only 100K votes out of, say, 30 million.
4. The fervent opposition to the "loss of China" (the first Red Scare) was led by Protestant Evangelical missionary interests. Chiang Kai-Shek was a Methodist. The actual John Birch himself was a Protestant missionary.
5. The Second Red Scare led by McCarthy (related to E. Europe) was pushed by an alliance of Russian Orthodox folks from the Tolstoy Foundation in co-operation with Catholic interests led by McCarthy and his allies.
6. The most important fact of all is that after the Battle of Stalingrad, the Nazis knew they would lose WWII. They immediately made long-range plans for the aftermath of the War. The leaders of this European strategy for the US were Allen Dulles and diplomat Robert Murphy. That's why the US chose to occupy Bavaria, (the Catholic portion of Germany).
7. Only the incompetent Nazis like Goering got captured, tried and hanged at Nuremberg. It was the smarter, Catholic-connected, Austrian-connected, Munich-connected, Vatican-connected Nazis like Heinrich Muller, Otto Skorzeny, Martin Bormann and Eichmann who kept right on truckin' after the War. They had pre-planned starting in 1943 and had millions overseas by 1945. They invented the myth of the Alpine Fortress of Hitler. This justified Ike invading Catholic Bavaria and leaving the rest to the UK and the USSR.
8. The master plan, implemented by Adenauer was to DELIBERATELY HAND OVER THE PROTESTANT AREAS OF GERMANY TO THE RUSSIANS. What most people didn't know is that Adenauer and the Austrian/Catholic Nazis wanted Germany divided so that the Catholic culture would be in the majority. Don't forget that Hitler was both Catholic and Austrian and put those priorities ahead of Germany as a whole (during his entire life right up to the end).
9. That is why the European Union was kept "small" by Adenauer and only included Catholic France, Catholic Italy and the Catholic rump of Germany known as West Germany.
10. It was the murder of JFK and the accession of Protestant German Ludwig Erhard that spelled the end of this pro-Catholic run in Germany. It lasted from Hitler's succession in 1933 to the murder of JFK in 1963.
11. Once Ludwig Erhard took over (October, 1963), the rabid anti-Communists in both the US and Germany fell somewhat from power. LBJ was friendly with German Socialist Willi Brandt and the CDU/CSU party of Adenauer was forced to make a "Grand Coalition" with the Socialist SPD. Finally, in the 1970,s the Socialists took power in Germany under Willi Brandt.
12. Once the exclusive Catholic activist grip on West Germany was broken, all of a sudden the UK and the Protestant countries began to gain access to the EU.
13. The reason why the Adenauer Germans murdered JFK is because he was considered a turncoat Catholic by them. JFK was also considering a re-unification of Germany under a poliltically neutral plan (called the Rapacki Plan). This would have restored Germany to a Prussian and Protestant majority. Adenauer hated the Prussians and didn't like the Protestants all that much, either.
So there you have my latest explanation for the motive for the Skorzeny-involved murder of JFK. JFK made the mistake of flirting with a neutral and Protestant reunified Germany.
James Lateer