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CTKA: Review 'The French Connection'.
#21
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Lefitte's first name was Pierre.Read
Indeed he does! Confusedmallprint:
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#22
Phil Dragoo Wrote:A Record from Mary Ferrell's Database

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[TD]Record:[/TD]
[TD]QJWIN, ----- -----[/TD]
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[TD]Sources:[/TD]
[TD]CIA Box 5, Folder 5, Doc 02637 (MMF 573); CIA Dispatch dated 24 April 1964; CIA Box 7, Folder 12, Doc 03458 (MMF 81); CIA Box 12, Folder 10, Doc 5857 (Attached to Doc 4048) (MMF 1092-1094); HSCA Vol 4, pp. 141-142, 204-205, 498; HSCA Vol 9, pp. 183, 185; Reasonable Doubt, Hurt, pp. 402, 404; HSCA Reel 14, Box 9, Folder K, L (AMKW 10); HSCA Reel 20, Box 13, Folder I (AMKW 15); QJ/WIN, WI/ROGUE & Project ZR/Rifle, by Peter Kross, Back Channels, Vol 4, No. 1, pp. 5-8; Live By The Sword, Gus Russo, pp. 62-63, 525 note 52 Sons and Brothers, Richard D. Mahoney, pp. 92-93[/TD]
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[TD]Mary's
Comments:
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[TD](?) 201-236504 (?) QJ/WIN went by name "Pierre." QJ/WIN was terminated by CIA on 21 April 1964. HSCA reviewed his CIA file. QJ/WIN = Jose Mankel, from Cologne, Germany. Mankel was recruited by WI/ROGUE = David Dzitzichvili. Richard Mahoney says QJ/WIN was Mozes Maschkivitzan from Belgium who was recruited by William King Harvey to kill Lumumba in 1961.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...lt&id=7793[/TD]
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Thanks Phil awesome and cheers for your back up the last critique much appreciated.
"In the Kennedy assassination we must be careful of running off into the ether of our own imaginations." Carl Ogelsby circa 1992
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#23
Fascinating details on the castlist surrounding Mozes Maschkivitzan can be seen, courtesy of Douglas Valentine, here.

Drugs, Dulles and a spurious "anti-communist" cover story....
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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#24
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Fascinating details on the castlist surrounding Mozes Maschkivitzan can be seen, courtesy of Douglas Valentine, here.

Drugs, Dulles and a spurious "anti-communist" cover story....

Thanks Jan, I was really juggling a lot of stuff at the time and was going to contact vis a vis the French Connection. WTF Kross didn't follow this intriguing stuff is dismaying. I find Valentine a little excitable at times, however, he does unearth some gems. Anyhow happy new year Jan, oh and I hope you get a chance to read the review I give full credit to the DPF. It would have been a real struggle to do this one without the content of this website.

Indeed Happy New Year to all the mods and members.
"In the Kennedy assassination we must be careful of running off into the ether of our own imaginations." Carl Ogelsby circa 1992
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#25
Strength of the Wolf page 228

THE TIE-IN BETWEEN DRUG SMUGGLING AND ESPIONAGE

According to documnts contained in his 201 file, QJ/WIN was tall and thin, married (although homosexual)
with many friends in well-to-do Parisian circles.He was a conman extraordinaire! He 'd been a a double agent during the war and had testified at the trial of Marshall Petain. After the war he got involved in smuggling and one of four or five FBN agents in Europe at the time recruited him and set him up in a business in Luxumburg.

I wonder if we could find out who, from our list of suspects, had testified at the Petain trial.


The following is from Weberman's Nodule 3

WHO WAS QJWIN?
The CIA settled on candidate number six, FNU Mankel, QJWIN (IRD #34,944). QJWIN was identified as a 44-year-old Luxembourg citizen. In 1919 he was arrested at Geneva for complicity in an assassination and sentenced to life imprisonment. In 1925, he was released through the influence of his friends. In December 1939, he was accused of embezzlement in Luxembourg. In December 1939, he was arrested by the French authorities on suspicion of espionage and interned at Gurs. Again, he was released through the influence of friends - Muchen, Laval - in June 1940. In August 1941, he was
given an important intelligence post in Bordeaux by the Germans. In November 1943, he was arrested by the Gestapo and imprisoned at Frennes. A few days later he was released and placed under house surveillance at his Paris home. It was reported: "Reported to be art dealer and homosexual. Subject was described as wealthy and cultured. Subject had numerous friends in good Parisian circles and appeared to be more than a collaborator." In December 1943, he was expelled from France by the Gestapo and instructed to live at "fudelange" in Luxembourg. When he was arrested in Luxembourg on September 16, 1944, papers found on him indicated he had a fair amount of influence with the Germans and possibly was an agent.[CIA 201-245882 7.17.59] On August 7, 1945, he was mentioned at the trial of Marshall Petain.
On September 5, 1958, Priority Traces on Subject and family were requested from (deleted) to the Chief Western European Division:
1. Priority A traces are requested on Subject who is the (deleted) informant referred to in para 2 of (illegible) 0010. Depending on the outcome of the traces, it is planned to use Subject as an Agent Provocateur and or a double agent against the Soviets.
2. (Deleted) has known Subject since the early 1950's when Subject was a successful smuggler. (Deleted) 3 and (Deleted) used Subject as an informer on the activities of other smugglers in Luxembourg. Subject is financially indebted to (deleted) who has loaned him money to get started in a legitimate business. (In addition, (Deleted) knows a lot about Subject's past illegal activities, which might conceivably be used against Subject.) Subject has many varied contacts among illegal traders and petty criminals as well as among influential legitimate businessmen. He is described by the (Deleted) as a quick thinker and one who can "think on his feet." When the question arose as to who a suitable candidate for provocateur might be, (Deleted) suggested Subject. (Deleted) was called in and without hesitation he answered the same question immediately with Subject's name. When the question is put to (Deleted) who is more conservative in judgment than either (Deleted) or (Deleted) he also agreed Subject was ideal choice. According to the (Deleted) assessment of Subject, he is the type of person who would appeal to (Deleted) and since we have been searching for means to probe into KGB activities in Luxembourg, Subject may well be the man for the job.

Who ever was QJ/WIN i doubted that he was part of the Dallas plot.
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#26
More on QJ / WIN from the pdf article linked in Seamus' CTKA piece.

Note the birthdate of Moise Maschkivitzan is given as 1910.

Maschkivitzan is probably a Jewish name (several people with this surname can be found on Shoah websites), and may be Armenian or Russian originally.


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"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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#27
Something is weird in the notes found on the Weberman nodule:

QJWIN was identified as a 44-year-old Luxembourg citizen. In 1919 he was arrested at Geneva for complicity in an assassination and sentenced to life imprisonment.

Assuming that he was 44 years old in 1962/1963 then he would have been born in 1918/1919.
How then he was arrested in 1919 in Geneva?
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#28
The following extracts from the article cited by Seamus also attracted my attention.

Aristocratic fascist links and a sophisticated Mockingbird operation funded to the tune of (modern day) 6.7 million Euros of "unknown" origin.

With the aim of plausible deniability, which in this instance became, with a spooky shrug of shoulders, That's Africa for you, or It's an African Affair.


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"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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#29
Vasilios Vazakas Wrote:Something is weird in the notes found on the Weberman nodule:

QJWIN was identified as a 44-year-old Luxembourg citizen. In 1919 he was arrested at Geneva for complicity in an assassination and sentenced to life imprisonment.

Assuming that he was 44 years old in 1962/1963 then he would have been born in 1918/1919.
How then he was arrested in 1919 in Geneva?

Yup - that caught my eye as well.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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#30
Lawrence Devlin was CIA station chief in Congo at the time of Lumumba's assassination.

Here's his self-serving account, of which all, some or none may be true.

I believe the part about MK-ULTRA being operational is correct.

I do not believe Devlin's guff about American morality.

Quote:Memories of a C.I.A. Officer Resonate in a New Era

LOCUST GROVE, Va. Larry Devlin is 85 now, suffering from emphysema and tethered to an oxygen tank, his Central Intelligence Agency career long behind him. But he recalls with sunlit clarity the day in Congo nearly half a century ago when he was handed a packet of poisons, including toxic toothpaste, and ordered to carry out a political assassination.

New York Times, February 24 2008

Mr. Devlin, here in 1960 or 1961, has written about his old job.

"I was totally taken aback," said Mr. Devlin, sitting in his den, looking out on a small lake in the Virginia countryside. He uttered a mild profanity, he recalled, and asked, "Isn't this unusual?' "

It was 1960, and Mr. Devlin, the C.I.A.'s young station chief, was in the middle of a political maelstrom as Congolese factions fought for control of the newly independent nation and the United States jostled with the Soviet Union for influence and control over deposits of critical metals.

Mr. Devlin had no problems with bribery, blackmail or other varieties of skulduggery "all part of the game" for the C.I.A. under Allen Dulles at the height of the cold war, he said. But he thought the order to kill Patrice Lumumba, the charismatic Congolese politician the Eisenhower administration feared would become an African Fidel Castro, was both wrong and stupid, a desperate plan that could easily go awry and devastate American influence in Africa.

"Worldwide it would have been disastrous," he said.

So he stalled. And Lumumba's political rivals eventually killed him without the C.I.A.'s help.

Today, Mr. Devlin's story has new resonance amid a renewed debate about the proper limits of C.I.A. actions to counter a different global threat and their cost to the United States' standing. The C.I.A.'s destruction of videotapes of harsh interrogations is under criminal investigation. Congress has been reviewing the C.I.A.'s secret detention program and the transfer of terrorist suspects to countries that practice torture, though so far no inquiry has approached the sweep of the Church Committee in the Senate in the 1970s, whose reports quote Mr. Devlin under a pseudonym, Victor S. Hedgeman.

"I think there's an eerie and disturbing correlation between that era and this one," said John Prados, an intelligence historian and the author of "Safe for Democracy: The Secret Wars of the C.I.A."

He said the threat of terrorism now, like the threat of communism then, was used to justify extreme measures that "later become controversial legally, morally and politically."

Mr. Prados said the historical record supported Mr. Devlin's account of his actions, which he described last year in an autobiography, "Chief of Station, Congo: Fighting the Cold War in a Hot Zone."

"I believe there's no reason to doubt that Mr. Devlin conspired to defuse the orders to kill Lumumba," he said.

Mr. Devlin, who was station chief in Congo and in Laos during the Vietnam war and retired from the agency in 1974, said he never used force during interrogations and worried that endorsing such methods might put Americans at greater risk of mistreatment.

But he has watched the tribulations of a younger generation at the agency with sympathy. He can attest not only to the quandary of a field officer directed to take extreme measures, but also to the personal cost that can follow. Because his name got associated with the plot against Lumumba, Mr. Devlin was later told, he himself was made a target for death by both a Black Panther faction and Ilich Ramírez Sánchez, the Venezuelan terrorist known as Carlos the Jackal.

"I can put myself in the shoes of the people who did the waterboarding and who thought they'd get information to save lives," Mr. Devlin said. "I've often wondered: How would I react if I thought I had the man who knows about a bomb?"

The son of an Army colonel and a schoolteacher in San Diego, Mr. Devlin recalls being shaken when he read "Mein Kampf" at the age of 16 and paying 25 cents to hear lectures on foreign affairs at the local Unitarian church.

After serving in combat in North Africa and Europe during World War II, he went to Harvard to pursue a Ph.D. One Sunday afternoon, he was summoned by a professor, William Y. Elliott, a historian and longtime adviser to presidents. Waiting for him was McGeorge Bundy, who went on to be the national security adviser to Presidents Kennedy and Johnson. Mr. Bundy urged him to join the recently formed C.I.A. to keep the cold war from turning hot.

His first job was as what C.I.A. calls a "noc," for nonofficial cover, traveling in the guise of a writer of travel guides. At the age of 38, he landed in the tumult of Congo, where he would be jailed, beaten and narrowly escape death on several occasions.
In September 1960, Mr. Devlin received a cable advising him that he would get an important message from "Joe from Paris." The envoy turned out to be Sidney Gottlieb, the agency's club-footed poisons expert, whom Mr. Devlin had met during operations to install listening devices overseas, and who would later become notorious for mind-control experiments using L.S.D.

Mr. Gottlieb said that the assassination had been approved by President Eisenhower but admitted that he had not seen the presidential orders. He explained that the poisons, including the spiked toothpaste, had been chosen to make the death appear to result from natural causes.

"Morally I thought it was the wrong thing to do," Mr. Devlin said. "And I thought it was a very dangerous thing to do. If I screwed up and brought in the wrong person and it got out that the United States had done this, I had visions of even Africans who didn't like Lumumba wiping out every white man they could find. It might have cost hundreds of lives."

Mr. Devlin said he figured that if he refused his orders outright, his C.I.A. bosses would simply call him home and send a more willing replacement. So he listened sagely and hid the poisons in his office safe, scribbling a warning on the box "just in case someone got in and tried the toothpaste."

After Mr. Lumumba was executed by opponents in January 1961, Mr. Devlin decided he needed to get rid of the poisons in his safe. He took the box to a rocky stretch of the Congo River where no one was likely to stumble upon it, and tossed it in.

Such episodes aside, he defends the C.I.A' s achievements in Congo, including support for the rise of Mobutu Sese Seko, who would become a symbol of corruption in his 32-year rule. "We prevented the Soviets from taking over a very large part of Africa," he said.

Though he retired from the C.I.A., Mr. Devlin stayed in Africa and worked in the diamond business for 12 years, until 1988. His boss was Maurice Tempelsman, a Belgian-American diamond importer best known as the companion of Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis in the last 15 years of her life.

"Diamonds are a political thing," Mr. Devlin said. "I knew all the ministers of mines. In short, I was in a better position to negotiate than people who knew a lot about diamonds." When he came across interesting information, he added, he passed it to his old friends in the C.I.A.

Last year, Mr. Devlin was called back to C.I.A. headquarters to receive an award honoring his career and exchanged a few words with Jose A. Rodriguez Jr., the chief of the C.I.A.'s clandestine service. He has closely followed the news since Mr. Rodriguez came under investigation for giving the order to destroy the videotapes.

"I feel sorry for the guy," Mr. Devlin said. "I think I know what he's going through."
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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