Pope Francis

[Peter Lemkin]

....."Don't cry for me Argentina......" :pope:

[Dawn Meredith]

He sounds really progressive [sarcasm]. So, repress the Liberation Theology, keep the CC conservative and even oppressive to many, let the scandals roll on - especially the Vatican Bank scandals.....nothing has changed....maybe even some Gladio action will be tolerated.

What did you expect, someone radical/revolutionary/pro-Peace and morality like Jesus?!

IMO, Its a corporation....only a religious one. Cardinals are the Board and its business and the usual pedophilia scandals as usual. Women and progressives/reformers can hope for no changes.

I hope I didn't offend any Catholics - I could easily criticize any organized religion.

NB

On April 15, 2005, a human rights lawyer filed a criminal complaint against Bergoglio, accusing him of conspiring with the junta in 1976 to kidnap two Jesuit priests, whom he, as superior of the Society of Jesus of Argentina in 1976, had asked to leave their pastoral work following conflict within the Society over how to respond to the new military dictatorship, with some priests advocating a violent overthrow. Bergoglio's spokesman has flatly denied the allegations. No evidence was presented linking the cardinal to this crime.[5]

THAT is REALLY troubling!

It seems that we did have one like that - Pope John Paul the first- but the ptb did not like his reformist attitude and he suddenly died. Aside from a book I once had and stupidly loaned out in the 80's called "In God's name" (I think that was the title it was never returned), not much has been writtten about this inside job.

Dawn

[Dawn Meredith]

In November 2005, Cardinal Bergoglio was elected head of the Argentine Conference of Bishops for a three-year term, which was renewed in 2008. At the time he was chosen, the Argentine church was dealing with a notorious political scandal, that of the Rev. Christian von Wernich, a former chaplain of the Buenos Aires police who had been accused of aiding in the questioning, torture and death of political prisoners.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/14/world/...=2&hp&_r=0

When my husband was in a Chilean prison cell being tortured they also wheeled in a priest who questioned him and asked him to tell his 'sins' so he could be 'forgiven' before he was sent off to the firing squad. The firing squad was not the end of the torture. They aimed high and low. It was part of the torture. They did it twice. But for many it was the end of their torture.

OMG Mags: Have you ever considered writing a book, or better yet getting someone to do a screen play? You have so very much to tell. Your husband sounds like a true hero. Like you.

[Peter Lemkin]

He sounds really progressive [sarcasm]. So, repress the Liberation Theology, keep the CC conservative and even oppressive to many, let the scandals roll on - especially the Vatican Bank scandals.....nothing has changed....maybe even some Gladio action will be tolerated.

What did you expect, someone radical/revolutionary/pro-Peace and morality like Jesus?!

IMO, Its a corporation....only a religious one. Cardinals are the Board and its business and the usual pedophilia scandals as usual. Women and progressives/reformers can hope for no changes.

I hope I didn't offend any Catholics - I could easily criticize any organized religion.

NB

On April 15, 2005, a human rights lawyer filed a criminal complaint against Bergoglio, accusing him of conspiring with the junta in 1976 to kidnap two Jesuit priests, whom he, as superior of the Society of Jesus of Argentina in 1976, had asked to leave their pastoral work following conflict within the Society over how to respond to the new military dictatorship, with some priests advocating a violent overthrow. Bergoglio's spokesman has flatly denied the allegations. No evidence was presented linking the cardinal to this crime.[5]

THAT is REALLY troubling!

It seems that we did have one like that - Pope John Paul the first- but the ptb did not like his reformist attitude and he suddenly died. Aside from a book I once had and stupidly loaned out in the 80's called "In God's name" (I think that was the title it was never returned), not much has been writtten about this inside job.

Dawn

Yeah, good book: http://www.yallop.com/ingodsname.aspx
First published: 1984 ISBN: 978-1-84529-496-0

• Reviews
  

Murder and corruption - New evidence of the vatican cover-up

Over 6,000,000 copies sold worldwide.

In God's Name has been at the top of the bestseller lists all over the world. It contains some of the most explosive and dramatic revelations ever published about the internal affairs of the Vatican.
During the late evening of September 28th or the early morning of September 29th, 1978, Pope John Paul 1, Albino Luciani, known as the smiling Pope, died only thirty-three days after his election.
David Yallop began his investigations into his death at the request of certain individuals resident in Vatican City who were disturbed by a cover-up of the true circumstances surrounding the discovery of the Pope's body. It is his conviction that murder was the fate of Albino Luciani and he presents this evidence in this enthralling book.
Over three years continual and exhaustive research, David Yallop uncovered a chain of corruption that linked leading figures in financial, political, criminal and clerical circles around the world in a conspiracy of awesome proportions. To this day the central questions raised in In God's Name remain unanswered. A new updated edition containing additional evidence is now available. Publication date: 5th April 2007
U.K. Publishers Constable & Robinson.
U.S. Publishers Carroll & Graf.
ISBN: 978-1-84529-496-0

I read the book long ago and it was very interesting......in the light of the Popes since and the current resignation under the cloud of scandals, the Pope shot by one of the Gray Wolves [known to be connected to Gladio and other dark organizations], the recent ''I love the Argentinian Junta" Pope...it might just be time to re-read the book......along with God's Banker - about Calvi.

[Magda Hassan]

In November 2005, Cardinal Bergoglio was elected head of the Argentine Conference of Bishops for a three-year term, which was renewed in 2008. At the time he was chosen, the Argentine church was dealing with a notorious political scandal, that of the Rev. Christian von Wernich, a former chaplain of the Buenos Aires police who had been accused of aiding in the questioning, torture and death of political prisoners.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/14/world/...=2&hp&_r=0

When my husband was in a Chilean prison cell being tortured they also wheeled in a priest who questioned him and asked him to tell his 'sins' so he could be 'forgiven' before he was sent off to the firing squad. The firing squad was not the end of the torture. They aimed high and low. It was part of the torture. They did it twice. But for many it was the end of their torture.

OMG Mags: Have you ever considered writing a book, or better yet getting someone to do a screen play? You have so very much to tell. Your husband sounds like a true hero. Like you.

No Dawn. But I have some times thought I'd love to get the stories of all the survivors on video to document them and make them public so others learn and we never forget. A bit like Steven Spielberg did with the Holocaust survivors a few years ago. Don't have his bank account unfortunately though but even a hand held camera and a You Tube account would be better than nothing. There are far too many people with these sorts of histories that others need to hear about. Certainly it will never be done by the MSM.

[Magda Hassan]

It seems that we did have one like that - Pope John Paul the first- but the ptb did not like his reformist attitude and he suddenly died. Aside from a book I once had and stupidly loaned out in the 80's called "In God's name" (I think that was the title it was never returned), not much has been writtten about this inside job.

Dawn

Yeah, good book: http://www.yallop.com/ingodsname.aspx
First published: 1984 ISBN: 978-1-84529-496-0

• Reviews
  

Murder and corruption - New evidence of the vatican cover-up

Over 6,000,000 copies sold worldwide.

In God's Name has been at the top of the bestseller lists all over the world. It contains some of the most explosive and dramatic revelations ever published about the internal affairs of the Vatican.
During the late evening of September 28th or the early morning of September 29th, 1978, Pope John Paul 1, Albino Luciani, known as the smiling Pope, died only thirty-three days after his election.
David Yallop began his investigations into his death at the request of certain individuals resident in Vatican City who were disturbed by a cover-up of the true circumstances surrounding the discovery of the Pope's body. It is his conviction that murder was the fate of Albino Luciani and he presents this evidence in this enthralling book.
Over three years continual and exhaustive research, David Yallop uncovered a chain of corruption that linked leading figures in financial, political, criminal and clerical circles around the world in a conspiracy of awesome proportions. To this day the central questions raised in In God's Name remain unanswered. A new updated edition containing additional evidence is now available. Publication date: 5th April 2007
U.K. Publishers Constable & Robinson.
U.S. Publishers Carroll & Graf.
ISBN: 978-1-84529-496-0

I read the book long ago and it was very interesting......in the light of the Pope's since and the current resignation under the cloud of scandals, the Pope shot by one of the Gray Wolves [known to be connected to Gladio and other dark organizations], the recent ''I love the Argentinian Junta" Pope...it might just be time to re-read the book......along with God's Banker - about Calvi.

Both great books. Highly recommended.
I bet this pope lives longer than 6 weeks.

[Jan Klimkowski]

From the latest wikileaks stash:

ARGENTINA CONVICTS PRIEST FOR HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS FROM THE 1970S DIRTY WAR
Date:
2007 October 11, 16:53 (Thursday)

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VIOLATIONS FROM THE 1970S DIRTY WAR ------- Summary -------

1. (U) Christian Von Wernich, a Roman Catholic priest and ex-chaplain of the Buenos Aires Police during Argentina's 1976-1983 Dirty War, was convicted October 9 of being an accomplice in several cases of murder, torture and illegal imprisonment. Von Wernich is the third ex-military official from the Dirty War period and first ecclesiastical figure to be tried and convicted of such crimes since the 2005 Argentina Supreme Court decision voiding immunity for ex-military personnel. The local leadership of the Catholic Church issued a press statement calling on Von Wernich to repent and seek public forgiveness, and noted the church's past requests for forgiveness and societal reconciliation.

End Summary. ----------------------------- Von Wernich Guilty As Charged -----------------------------

2. (U) Christian Von Wernich, ex-chaplain of the Buenos Aires police force during Argentina's 1976-1983 Dirty War (when the police were under the supervision of the military), was convicted October 9 for the role he played in seven murders, 31 cases of torture and 42 kidnappings. La Plata's First Federal Tribunal determined Von Wernich played a pivotal role in the system of illegal repression that operated in Buenos Aires province, abusing the confession procedure to elicit information from detainees held in secret cells before turning them over to face torture, murder or "disappearance." The three-member tribunal condemned Von Wernich's actions as part of the "genocide" committed in Argentina during the Dirty War years. The tribunal sentenced Von Wernich to life in prison.

3. (U) Von Wernich is the third ex-military official from the period of Argentina's Dirty War, and the first ecclesiastical authority, to be prosecuted and convicted since the 2005 Argentine Supreme Court decision that declared unconstitutional immunity protections for Dirty War ex-military officials. He was sentenced to life in prison. Relatives of the alleged tortured or "disappeared," human rights activists and others outside the Mar del Plata courthouse cheered the verdict, some citing decades of work that finally culminated in Von Wernich's conviction. President Kirchner and other GOA officials praised the court decision. ----------------------------- The Catholic Church Weighs In -----------------------------

4. (U) Following the verdict, the Buenos Aires Archdiocese of the Roman Catholic Church issued a press statement calling on Von Wernich to repent and publicly seek forgiveness. The Archdiocese said the Argentine Catholic Church was disturbed by the pain caused by one of its priests' participation in such serious crimes. The statement added that the prosecution of the crimes should be a step toward Argentine reconciliation and serve as a wake up call for citizens to put elements of impunity, hate and spite behind them. The bishops also touched on a self-critical diocese statement issued in 1997, reminding that church leadership and laypersons alike involved in these or similar crimes acted on their own responsibility. October 11 press reports indicate that the Church will initiate its own internal proceedings, possibly to defrock Von Wernich. ------- Comment -------

5. (SBU) Von Wernich's conviction and sentencing are a significant milestone in Argentina's ongoing efforts to seek justice in the cases of major human rights violations from the 1970s. They also draw attention to the support given by Roman Catholic clergy to both sides in the Dirty War. Many on the political left allege the Church was complicit with atrocities committed by the state and believe the Church has failed to account or atone for its actions. As noted above, the Church has not yet disciplined nor defrocked Von Wernich but has sought to distance itself from the unauthorized, maverick operations of rogue priests. Nonetheless, at a time when some observers consider Roman Catholic primate Cardinal Bergoglio to be a leader of the opposition to the Kirchner administration because of his comments about social issues, the Von Wernich case could also have the effect, some believe, of undermining the Church's (and, by extension, Cardinal Bergoglio's) moral authority or capacity to comment on political, social or economic questions. WAYNE

[Magda Hassan]

WikiLeaks cables confirm collusion between Vatican and dictators

By Marc Wells
15 April 2013

Julian Assange's WikiLeaks released a new archive of 1.3 million diplomatic cables and intelligence records last Monday encompassing the years 1973 through 1976, dubbed "The Kissinger Cables."
The database includes documents revealing the ruthless operations led by the US worldwide, at a time when the international working class was on the offensive and the bourgeoisie was waging a ruthless counterattack.
Among the cables, a series of diplomatic communications exposes the relationships between the Vatican and a number of dictatorial regimes, from Chile's Augusto Pinochet to Argentina's Jorge Rafael Videla to Spain's Francisco Franco.
On September 11, 1973, a CIA-backed coup led by general Pinochet overthrew the elected government of Socialist Party President Salvador Allende. In Pinochet's 17-year dictatorship, thousands of left-wing activists, students, trade unionists and anyone suspected of opposing Chilean and international capital were killed or disappeared by the regime. Hundreds of thousands were jailed and tortured, or sent into exile.
The names of these criminal state operations, such as "Operation Condor" or "The Caravan of Death" are forever embedded in the consciousness of Chilean workers. Pinochet's "struggle against Marxism" remains one of the most violent developments in the history of the 20th century.
The main goal of such struggle was to destroy the working class and its organizations, both physically and through the imposition of aggressive economic policies of privatization and deregulation. These created a model of enrichment by a small oligarchy for the following decades.
Many governments joined this "struggle," with the US leading the pack. President Richard Nixon and his National Security Adviser Henry Kissinger allocated $8 million for the campaign to destabilize Allende. While maintaining an appearance of liberal reforms and a more relaxed policy toward the USSR initiated by John XXIII, the Vatican, led by Pope Paul VI, lent support to the Chilean dictator.
In a cable dated October 18, 1973, Archbishop Giovanni Benelli, Vatican Deputy Secretary of State, denied the crimes committed by Pinochet's junta, expressing "his and Pope's grave concern over successful international leftist campaign to misconstrue completely realities of Chilean situation."
More precisely, the cable documents Benelli's view on the "exaggerated coverage of events as possibly greatest success of communist propaganda, and highlighted fact that even moderate and conservative circles seem quite disposed to believe grossest lies about Chilean junta's excesses."
His source of information was Cardinal Raúl Silva, a staunch opponent of communism. According to the cable, "Cardinal Silva and Chilean Episcopate in general have assured Pope Paul that junta making every effort to return to normal and that stories alleging brutal reprisals in international media secret are unfounded."
The role played by figures like Silva or Paul VI himselfpromoted as "progressives" at the timeemerges quite clearly in these documents. Benelli states that "validity and sincerity of Cardinal Silva cannot be challenged since Silva is known internationally as one of Church's leading progressives who, moreover, gave tacit support to President Allende."
This evidence shows not only the denial of Pinochet's crimes by the Vatican and the Chilean Church: it reveals the bankruptcy of the Allende government, which based itself on relations with layers of the Church that were completely hostile to it.
In fact, the Archbishop states that, "leftist forces have greatly cut losses by convincing world that Allende's fall due exclusively to fascist and external forces rather than to shortcomings of Allende's own policies as is rightly case."
If there is any objective truth in Benelli's statement, it is the fact that Pinochet, who was appointed by Allende as head of the armed forces, took advantage of the political environment created by Allende's retreat from the reforms he had promised. Allende was himself a capitalist politician, promoting a "Chilean road to socialism" but fundamentally committed to demobilizing the working class. This prepared the field for a right-wing military takeover.
In November 1973, in the immediate aftermath of Pinochet's coup, another cable documents negotiations for the renewal and revision of the Concordat, originally signed in 1953, between the Vatican and the fascist regime of Francisco Franco in Spain, which effectively rejected the principle of separation between state and Church.
Archbishop Agostino Casarolithe Vatican's Secretary of Public Affairs at the time and another " Ostpolitik reformist" figure who developed new relations with Eastern European countries in an attempt to boost the Church's influence in Stalinist-ruled countriesmet with Spanish officials. It was agreed that a low profile be maintained.
There were several reasons for this: first, events in Chile had created immense opposition among workers and students, and the Church risked being publicly exposed as an ally of dictatorial regimes. Secondly, there were disagreements inside the Vatican itself on how to best manage the Vatican's image and distance it from fascist dictators.
A cable dated November 7, 1973 states that a "difference of views between the Vatican and the Spanish Episcopate is on the fundamental question of whether there should be a new Concordat negotiated." The record shows that the Episcopate was "amenable to partial accords or revisions of the 1953 one, since they believe a new Concordat might once again associate the Church with the regime" while they are "trying to disassociate the Church from the GoS [Government of Spain] in the eyes of the Spanish public."
While layers of the ecclesiastic hierarchy were concerned that after Franco's death negotiating terms would be less favorable and were pushing for a new deal, the "liberal," "progressive" section of the Vatican sought to "maintain its liberal image if only partial accords on the most vital points of friction" were renegotiated.
Contrary to Casaroli's request to keep the visit under the radar, Franco's regime "promoted extensive press and television coverage of the visit," provoking a reaction from the Vatican. According to the Italian publication l'Espresso, Casaroli protested to a Spanish minister for "the offensive violation of the reassurances received from the Spanish government to maintain a low profile."
A few years later, on March 24, 1976, Argentine Commander Jorge Rafael Videla headed the coup that overthrew President Isabel Perón, wife of former President Juan Perón. Videla ran a brutal police state, adopting free-market economic policies similar to Pinochet's. His regime, infamously associated with the "Dirty War" and "Operation Condor," became synonymous with disappearances, murder and torture.
Videla's close accomplice in the coup and the military dictatorship that followed was Navy Admiral Emilio Massera. New cables show the close ties between Massera and Pio Laghi, Apostolic nuncio (Holy See diplomat) in Argentina.
A cable dated November 7, 1975 reveals that Laghi "talked with Admiral Massera early November 5 on same subject [President Perón], and recently with many other participants. Nuncio [Laghi]'s analysis was that Mrs. Perón must leave as soon as possible by leave of absence, resignation, or golpe "that is, a coup.
Besides being a close friend of Massera, Laghi was well respected in military and diplomatic circles. As the same cable confirms, "Nuncio is well connected and is astute observer. His overall conclusion was that she is finished. Only form of departure remains in question. However, he commented, it could take longer than expected and be an agonizing process."
Ultimately, the real agony was experienced by tens of thousands of workers, students and political activists, labeled "terrorists," who actually fought in opposition to the state terrorism which characterized the Videla regime, but were either killed or tortured, jailed and disappeared.
Pio Laghi was more than a known entity for the US government. In a cable dated May 14, 1974, Laghi is depicted as "highly educated, personable, speaks excellent English, and is well disposed toward the United States."
These revelations shed light on the recent installation of the new Pope Francis, the former Archbishop of Buenos Aires, Argentina. The new Pontiff is deeply implicated in the "Dirty War" waged by the Argentine military junta (see "The Dirty War' Pope").
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/04/...i-a15.html

[Jan Klimkowski]

In a cable dated October 18, 1973, Archbishop Giovanni Benelli, Vatican Deputy Secretary of State, denied the crimes committed by Pinochet's junta, expressing "his and Pope's grave concern over successful international leftist campaign to misconstrue completely realities of Chilean situation."
More precisely, the cable documents Benelli's view on the "exaggerated coverage of events as possibly greatest success of communist propaganda, and highlighted fact that even moderate and conservative circles seem quite disposed to believe grossest lies about Chilean junta's excesses."

This is the heart of it.

The philosophy of Jesus has been appropriated by the Catholic Church and used to support the most reactionary and brutal regimes in their slaughter of ordinary people.

The Vatican loved and protected the fascist dictator Pinochet.

Just as the Vatican protected the Croatian fascist and Ustase butcher, Ante Pavelic,

Ante Pavelić (14 July 1889 28 December 1959) was a Croatian fascist leader and politician who led the Ustaše movement and who during World War II ruled the Independent State of Croatia (NDH), a puppet state of Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany in part of the occupied Kingdom of Yugoslavia,[1] pursuing genocidal racial policies against ethnic and racial minorities

(snip)

In 1945, Pavelic entered Italy disguised as a priest with a Peruvian passport.[citation needed] Passing Venice and Florence, he arrived in Rome in the spring of 1946 disguised as a Catholic priest and using the name Don Pedro Gonner.[125] On arrival in Rome he was given shelter by the Vatican[124] and stayed at a number of residences that belonged to the Vatican.[125] While in Rome where he started to gather his associates. Pavelić formed the Croatian State Committee (Croatian: Hrvatski državni odbor) headed by Lovro Sušić, Mate Frković and Božidar Kavran.[126]

Tito and his new Communist government accused the Catholic Church of harboring Pavelić who they stated, along with the Anglo-American "imperialists", wanted to "revive Nazism" and take over communist Eastern Europe.[18][need quotation to verify] The Yugoslav press claimed that Pavelić had stayed at the papal summer residence at Castel Gandolfo,[124] while CIA information states that he stayed at a monastery near the papal residence in the summer and autumn of 1948.[127] In fact, Anglo-American Intelligence used former fascists and Nazis, as agents against the communists.[128]

For some time, Pavelić hid in a Jesuit monastery near Naples.[18][need quotation to verify] In the autumn of 1948 he met Krunoslav Draganović, a Roman Catholic priest, who helped him obtain a Red Cross passport in the Hungarian name of Pale Aranios. Draganović allegedly planned to deliver Pavelić to the Italian police, but Pavelić avoided capture and fled to Argentina.[18]

An aberration?

Nah.

Dinko Šakić (8 September 1921 20 July 2008) was a convicted Croatian war criminal, an army leader of the fascist Independent State of Croatia (NDH), established under Third Reich and Italian tutelage, and commander of the Jasenovac concentration camp during World War II.

Sakic joined the concentration camp administration in 1941. A year later he was appointed as an assistant commandant of Jasenovac, south-east of Zagreb, the biggest of the 20-odd camps set up by the Ustasha regime. Just two years later, in April 1944, he was promoted to the post of camp commandant. Sakic's rapid rise in the hierarchy was due only in part to his enthusiastic and loyal support for Pavelic's policies. In 1943 he married Nada Luburic, the half-sister of Vjekoslav (Maks) Luburic, a veteran Ustasha official, who had been instrumental in first creating and then overseeing Croatia's network of concentration camps.

As commandant of Jasenovac, Sakic was not merely a bureaucrat. He personally took part in the killing and torture of some of the inmates. Among the crimes attributed to him for which he was to be condemned more than half a century later he shot dead a prisoner accused of having stolen a corn on the cob and killed in a similar way two Jewish internees after another inmate had escaped from the camp. During the six months he was in charge of Jasenovac, at least 2,000 prisoners were killed; many others died of disease or malnutrition.

With the end of the Second World War which led to the restoration of Yugoslavia under Marshal Tito's Communist regime Sakic joined Pavelic, and many other Ustasha figures who escaped to Argentina. President Juan Perón's populist regime provided a safe haven for many war criminals, including Adolf Eichmann, the Nazi official in charge of deporting Jews to German-run concentration camps, who was later to be abducted from Argentina by Israeli agents.

On 20 July 2008, Dinko Šakić died in hospital at the Remetinec prison in Novi Zagreb at the age of 86.[9] He was buried at Zagreb crematory on 25 July 2008. His funeral was attended by some Croatian right wing politicians, including Anto Kovačević. Simon Wiesenthal Center director Efraim Zuroff complained to the Croatian president Stjepan Mesić about Šakić's funeral.[10] At that funeral, Croatian Dominican priest pater Vjekoslav Lasić held a speech in which he said that "the court that indicted Dinko Šakić indicted Croatia and Croatians" and that "every Croat should be proud of Šakić's name". He also claimed that the Independent State of Croatia (NDH) formed a ground for establishing the modern state of Croatia.

The philosophy of Jesus as I understand it would cast out priests and popes like this.....