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Peter Lemkin Wrote:Pretty clear in my mind that Daniel Domscheit-Berg wasn't just in disagreement with Assange et al., but was a penetration agent on a mission or missions. One can only hope the original leakers will re-leak this lost information. Yes, David, pretty interesting choice of materials to be destroyed! If my memory serves, he said he was just in disagreement over methods and was going to start his own anonymous whistleblower website - which he never did....I'd even bet one could not locate him at this time...as that was likely not his real name. Spooky, and shows what kind of forces Assange and Wikileaks [Manning and others] are all up against. Sadly, I fear short of a revolution few of them will live long lives or in freedom. Sign of the times.....
Peter, please do not overreact regarding Daniel Domscheit-Berg. I am pretty sure that this is his real name and that he can easily be located. He is married to Anke Domscheit-Berg, who was trying to get to the front of the Piratenpartei in Brandenburg in October 2012 and is still active there. She was working for McKinsey and Microsoft before and has founded two companies.
I do not know how and why Daniel Domscheit-Berg destroyed this valuable material, but he certainly did not do it under cover and in secrecy.
The most relevant literature regarding what happened since September 11, 2001 is George Orwell's "1984".
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Daniel Domscheit-Berg
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Daniel Domscheit-Berg at 26C3, talking about Wikileaks
Born 1978
Nationality German
Other names Daniel Schmitt
Known for former spokesperson for WikiLeaks, founder of OpenLeaks
Daniel Domscheit-Berg, previously known under the pseudonym Daniel Schmitt (born 1978), is a German technology activist.[1] He is best known for his role, until September 2010, as a spokesperson for WikiLeaks, the whistleblower organization, in Germany. He is the author of Inside WikiLeaks: My Time with Julian Assange at the World's Most Dangerous Website (2011).[2]
After leaving Wikileaks, he announced plans in January 2011 to open a new website for anonymous online leaks called OpenLeaks. At a Chaos Computer Club (CCC) event in August 2011, he announced its preliminary launch and invited hackers to test the security of the OpenLeaks system, as a result of which the CCC criticized him for exploiting the good name of the club to promote his OpenLeaks project and expelled him from their club, despite his lack of membership.[3] This decision was revoked on February 2012.[4] In September 2011, several news organizations cited Domscheit-Berg's split from Julian Assange and Wikileaks as one of a series of events and errors that led to the release that month of all 251,287 United States diplomatic cables in the Cablegate affair.[5]
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WikiLeaks
Domscheit-Berg began working with WikiLeaks after meeting Assange at the Chaos Computer Club's annual conference (24C3) in 2007.[7] On 25 September 2010, after reportedly being suspended by Assange, Domscheit-Berg told Der Spiegel that he was resigning, saying "WikiLeaks has a structural problem. I no longer want to take responsibility for it, and that's why I am leaving the project."[8][9][10]
Domscheit-Berg was highlighted in the Sveriges Television programme WikiRebels - The Documentary, released in the second week of December 2010.[11]
A book about his experience with and separation[12] from WikiLeaks was released in Germany in February 2011, entitled Inside WikiLeaks: Meine Zeit bei der gefährlichsten Website der Welt ("My Time at the World's Most Dangerous Website").[13] An English translation followed some days later by Australian publisher Scribe Publications.[14][15][16] In Domscheit-Berg's book he criticizes Julian Assange's leadership style and handling of the Afghan War Diaries.
Domscheit-Berg stated he would destroy WikiLeaks data when leaving WikiLeaks.[17] He wanted to be sure that duplicates would be confirmed deleted by a notary with an affidavit.[18] In leaving, WikiLeaks state that Domscheit-Berg representing OpenLeaks, held the organisation to ransom over the unpublished documents and internal organisation communications[19] with mediations by a member of the hacker collective Chaos Computer Club between OpenLeaks and WikiLeaks. Domscheit-Berg apparently told weekly Der Freitag that "I took no documents from WikiLeaks with me", leading to suspension of mediations.[16] Domscheit-Berg was eventually kicked out of Chaos Computer Club due to his conduct during the mediation and for requesting the Chaos Computer Club to test OpenLeaks' security.[16] This decision was revoked in February 2012 by the general assembly of the Chaos Computer Club.
WikiLeaks and other sources later confirmed the destruction of over 3500 unpublished whistleblower communications with some communications containing hundreds of documents.[16][18][20][21] Including: US Government's No Fly List,[22] 5 GB of Bank of America leaks,[23] insider information from 20 right-wing organizations[22][24] and proof of torture and government abuse of a Latin America country.[25]
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OpenLeaks
In September 2010, Domscheit-Berg founded OpenLeaks[26] with the intention of being more transparent than WikiLeaks. "In these last months, the Wikileaks organization has not been open any more. It lost its open-source promise."[27]
Instead of publishing the documents, OpenLeaks said it will send the leaked documents to various news entities or publishers.[28]
OpenLeaks was supposed to start public operations in January 2011. However on the 23rd of December 2012 they announced on their website that the organisation would instead focus on spreading information and expertise regarding how to set up and run leak websites rather than directly facilitating leaks themselves.[29]
OpenLeaks has two public contacts, Daniel Domscheit-Berg and Herbert Snorrason, both previously involved in WikiLeaks.[26]
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Jim Jones meets Governor Dymally at the People's Temple, and expresses his concern about the CIA.
DYMALLY VISIT TO GUYANA
https://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/1...637_b.html
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A press response is formulated to rebut assertions regarding the Phoenix Program.
PHOENIX PROGRAM - ANOTHER FALSE UPI REPORT
https://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/1...393_b.html
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A discussion of terrorist acts in Italy by the 'Red Brigades' notes how some domestic suspicions have developed regarding CIA involvement, before concluding that the political victims of those acts will benefit electorally.
POLITICAL VIOLENCE CONTINUES
https://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/1...189_b.html
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A report discussing the assassination of an army commander in Argentina by the 'Red Brigades' concludes that "his death may raise suspicions in military circles as to who the real perpetrators were".
FURTHER TERRORIST DEPRECATIONS
https://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/1...000_b.html
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Anthony Thorne Wrote:A press response is formulated to rebut assertions regarding the Phoenix Program.
PHOENIX PROGRAM - ANOTHER FALSE UPI REPORT
https://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/1...393_b.html
Anthony - thanks.
The cable in full:
Quote:PHOENIX PROGRAM - ANOTHER FALSE UPI REPORT
Date:
1975 January 11, 08:50 (Saturday)
Canonical ID:
1975SAIGON00393_b
Original Classification:
UNCLASSIFIED
Current Classification:
UNCLASSIFIED
Handling Restrictions:
-- N/A or Blank --
Character Count:
6914
Executive Order:
-- N/A or Blank --
Locator:
TEXT ON MICROFILM,TEXT ONLINE
TAGS:
KAYLOR, ROBERT | PINR - Political Affairs--Intelligence | PINT - Political Affairs--Internal Political Affairs | UPI - United Press International | US - United States | VS - South Vietnam
Concepts:
ASSASSINATION | PHOENIX PROGRAM | POLICE FORCES | PRESS COMMENTS | UNCONVENTIONAL WARFARE
Enclosure:
-- N/A or Blank --
Type:
TE
Office Origin:
-- N/A or Blank --
Office Action:
ACTION EA
Archive Status:
Electronic Telegrams
From:
Vietnam Ho Chi Minh City
Markings:
Margaret P. Grafeld Declassified/Released US Department of State EO Systematic Review 05 JUL 2006
To:
Department of State
1. IN PARA 2 BELOW IS ONE OF THE MORE EXTRAORDINARY EXAMPLES OF UPI INVENTIVENESS IN PRODUCING JOURNALISTIC FICTION. FILED ON JANUARY 8 BY ROBERT KAYLOR, UPI BANGKOK, IT IS LIKELY TO PRODUCE CONGRESSIONAL AS WELL AS PRESS INQUIRIES. WE HAVE THEREFORE CONSIDERED IT USEFUL TO SET OUT THE FACTS (PARAS 3 THORUGH 8) TO ENABLE THE DEPARTMENT TO DEAL WITH SUCH INQUIRIES.
2. BEGIN TEXT: "THE UNITED STATES IS STILL INVOLVED WITH THE SUCCESSOR TO THE ILL-FAMED PHOENIX PROGRAM THAT USED ASSASSINATION AND TERROR TACTICS AGAINST SUSPECTED VIET CONG IN THE LATE 1960'S, ACCORDING TO INFORMED US AND VIETNAMESE SOURCES. "THE PROGRAM WAS PHASED OUT UNDER THE CODE NAME PHOENIX FOLLOWING CHARGES MANY OF THOSE KILLED WERE ACTUALLY INNOCENT CIVILIANS. IT HAS BEEN PLACED UNDER SOUTH VIETNAM'S NATIONAL POLICE UNDER THE NAME SPECIAL POLICE INVESTIGATING SERVICE (SPIS), THE SOURCES SAID. "ACCORDING TO THE SOURCES, IT CONSISTS OF ABOUT 14,000 SPECIAL TROOPS WHOSE OPERATIONS ARE MONITORED ON A PART-TIME BASIS BY US CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY (CIA) OPERATIVES IN SAIGON AND IN PROVINCIAL CAPITALS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
UNCLASSIFIED UNCLASSIFIED PAGE 02 SAIGON 00393 111317Z "THE UNITED STATES ALSO PROVIDES DATA PROCESSING FACILITIES FOR SPIS THROUGH A CONTRACTOR, COMPUTER SCIENCES SERVICES, INC., THE SOURCES SAID. THEY SAID THE COMPANY RUNS INTELLIGENCE REPORTS THROUGH ITS MACHINES TO CLASSIFY AND COLLATE THEM AND THE TURNS THE MATERIAL OVER TO SPIS. "THE PROGRAM THAT WAS EVENTUALLY NAMED PHOENIX WAS SET UP IN VIETNAM IN 1967 BY WILLIAM E. COLBY, WHO NOW HEADS THE CIA. DESIGNED AS A COORDINATED DRIVE AGAINST THE VIET CONG'S SHADOW GOVERNMENT SYSTEM BY VIETNAMESE AND AMERICAN FORCES, IT WAS CONTROLED BY THE UNITED STATES AND 1,2000 AMERICAN CIVILIAN AND MILITARY PERSONNEL WERE INVOLVED IN IT AT THE HEIGHT OF THE WAR. "PHOENIX CAME UNDER ATTACK IN 1971 BECAUSE OF A SYSTEM OF QUOTAS WHICH ASSIGNED PROVINCIAL COMMITTES A SPECIFIED NUMBER OF VIET CONG "NEUTRALIZATIONS" EACH MONTH.
CRITICS CHARGED THAT INNOCENT VICTIMS WERE KILLED TO FILL QUOTAS, AND THAT SOME VIETNAMESE OFFICIALS AND AGENTS ALSO USED THE SYSTEM TO SETTLE PERSONAL GRUDGES. "COLBY TESTIFIED BEFORE A CONGRESSIONAL SUBCOMMITTEE THAT TERGETS WERE KILLED ONLY WHEN THEY RESISTED ARREST. HE SUPPLIED FIGURES SHOWING THAT 20,587 VIET CONG SUSPECTS WERE KILLED UNDER THE PROGRAM FROM 1968 TO (GARBLE) VIETNAMESE OFFICIALS HAVE SAID TWICE THAT NUMBER WERE KILLED IN THE SAME PERIOD. "CONTINUED EXISTENCE OF THE PROGRAM UNDER ANOTHER NAME CAME TO LIGHT WITH AN OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT IN DECEMBER THAT ONE PROVINCIAL COMMITTEE HAD REPORTED FULFILLING 135 PER CENT OF ITS QUOTA OF NEUTRALIZATIONS FOR THE YEAR. "SAIGON GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS DECLINED TO COMMENT FURTHER ON THE ANNOUNCEMENT OR PROVIDE FIGURES FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTRY, CITING GROUNDS OF "NATIONAL SECURITY". "ACCORDING TO SOURCES HERE, ABOUT 100 AMERICAN PERSONNEL ARE NOW INVOLVED IN MONITORING THE PROGRAM. THEY SAID THAT OVERALL RESPONSIBILITY FOR WATCHING IT RESTS WITH A US AIR FORCE OFFICER ON DETACHED DUTY WITH THE AMERICAN EMBASSY IN SAIGON.
UNCLASSIFIED UNCLASSIFIED PAGE 03 SAIGON 00393 111317Z "SOME US SOURCES SAID THAT THE NUMBER OF OPERATIONS BY SPIS HAVE BEEN DRASTICALLY REDUCED AND THAT THE PROGRAM HAS LARGELY LOST ITS EFFECTIVENESS. THEY SAY THAT BECAUSE SPIS PERSONNEL ARE EXEMPT FROM MILITARY SERVICE, IT HAS BECOME A REPOSITORY FOR DRAFT DODGERS AND YOUTHS SEEKING TO AVOID THE ARMY." END TEXT
3. THE STORY IS, OF COURSE, COMPLETELY FALSE. THE FACTS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
4. THE STATEMENT THAT THE "UNITED STATES IS STILL INVOLVED WITH THE SUCCESSOR TO THE ILL-FAMED PHOENIX PROGRAM" IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE. NO ELEMENT OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT IS INVOLVED IN ANY WAY WITH ANY PROGRAM IN VIETNAM OF ANY SUCH DESCRIPTION.
5. CONTRARY TO WHAT THE ARTICLE CLAIMS, THERE IS NO "SPECIAL POLICE INVESTIGATING SERVICE" (SPIS) IN VIETNAM. THERE IS, OF COURSE, A SPECIAL BRANCH OF THE NATIONAL POLICE COMMAND, CONCERNED WITH SECURITY AND COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE MATTERS, WHICH WAS ORGANIZED ON BRITISH LINES AND IS SIMILAR TO ORGANIZATIONS EXISTING IN MALAYSIA , SINGAPORE, AND MANY OTHER (INCLUDING WESTERN EUROPEAN) COUNTRIES. THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT HAS NO ADVISORY RELATIONSHIPS TO THIS ORGANIZATION WHATSOEVER. THUS, THE STATEMENT THAT THE SO-CALLED SPIS "CONSISTS OF ABOUT 14,000 SPECIAL TROOPS WHOSE OPERATIONS ARE MONITORED ON A PART-TIME BASIS BY US CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY (CIA) OPERATIVES IN SAIGON AND PROVINCE CAPITALS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY"HAS ABSOLUTELY NO RELATIONSHIP TO THE TRUTH.
6. THERE IS NO "US AIR FORCE OFFICER ON DETACHED DUTY WITH THE AMERICAN EMBASSY IN SAIGON." THERE IS NO OFFICER OF ANY KIND IN THE EMBASSY WITH ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR MONITORING ANY SUCH PROGRAM AS DESCRIBED IN THE ARTICLE.
7. WHILE THERE IS NO REASON FOR THE UNITED STATES EMBASSY TO COMMENT ON THE PHOENIX PROGRAM, IT MAY BE WORTH NOTING THAT THE PROGRAM ALREADY EXISTED WHEN MR. COLBY ARRIVED IN VIETNAM. HE DID NOT SET IT UP. THIS IS BY WAY OF COMMENTING ON THE GENERAL RELIABILITY OF THE STORY.
UNCLASSIFIED UNCLASSIFIED PAGE 04 SAIGON 00393 111317Z IM THERE IS A "COMPUTER SCIENCES CORPORATION" WHICH MAY BE MEANT BY THE "COMPUTER SCIENCES SERVICES, INC." MENTIONED IN THE ARTICLE. A PREVIOUS US FUNDED CONTRACT BETWEEN COMPUTER SCIENCES AND THE NATIONAL POLICE WAS TERMINATED AS OF APRIL 1974 AND A CONTRACT WITH USAID WAS TERMINATED IN JUNE 1974. IN ANY CASE, THAT CONTRACT HAD NO RELATIONSHIP WHATEVER TO ANYTHING THAT COULD BE DESCRIBED AS THE PHOENIX PROGRAM.
9. AT THE PRESENT TIME, COMPUTER SCIENCES HAS A COMMERCIAL CONTRACT WITH THE VIETNAMESE NATIONAL POILICE IN LOGISTICS AND PERSONAL (PAYROLLING, ETC.) BUT IS ALSO UNINVOLVED IN ANY COUNTERINSURGENCY OR OTHER OPERATIONAL MATTERS. THE PRESENT CONTRACT IS NOT FUNDED BY ANY ELEMENT OF THE USG.
10. THIS SORT OF REPORTING IS THE KIND OF SENSATIONAL STORY, TOTALLY UNRELATED TO THE FACTS, WHICH WE HAVE COME TO EXPECT FROM UPI WHICH HAS IN RECENT MONTHS PRODUCED A STEADY STREAM OF MANUFACTURED FALSEHOODS ON VIETNAM AND VIETNAM RELATED SUBJECTS. ANOTHER RECENT EXAMPLE WAS THE UPI STORY DATELINED SAIGON ON THE SAILING OF THE ENTERPRISE (REFTEL 0211). 11. IT SEEMS TO US THAT THE SITUATION HAS REACHED A POINT AT WHICH DEPARTMENT SHOULD CONSIDER AN APPROACH TO UPI AT A SENIOR RESPONSIBLE LEVEL IN ATTEMPT INJECT SOME SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY IN REPORTING ON VIETNAMESE MATTERS. MARTIN UNCLASSIFIED
What shoddy propaganda.
The following is a fantastic non-denial denial which prima facie confirms the existence of the Phoenix Progam as a US operation.
Quote:7. WHILE THERE IS NO REASON FOR THE UNITED STATES EMBASSY TO COMMENT ON THE PHOENIX PROGRAM, IT MAY BE WORTH NOTING THAT THE PROGRAM ALREADY EXISTED WHEN MR. COLBY ARRIVED IN VIETNAM. HE DID NOT SET IT UP. THIS IS BY WAY OF COMMENTING ON THE GENERAL RELIABILITY OF THE STORY.
Below, we have murder by quota:
Quote:"THE PROGRAM THAT WAS EVENTUALLY NAMED PHOENIX WAS SET UP IN VIETNAM IN 1967 BY WILLIAM E. COLBY, WHO NOW HEADS THE CIA. DESIGNED AS A COORDINATED DRIVE AGAINST THE VIET CONG'S SHADOW GOVERNMENT SYSTEM BY VIETNAMESE AND AMERICAN FORCES, IT WAS CONTROLED BY THE UNITED STATES AND 1,2000 AMERICAN CIVILIAN AND MILITARY PERSONNEL WERE INVOLVED IN IT AT THE HEIGHT OF THE WAR. "PHOENIX CAME UNDER ATTACK IN 1971 BECAUSE OF A SYSTEM OF QUOTAS WHICH ASSIGNED PROVINCIAL COMMITTES A SPECIFIED NUMBER OF VIET CONG "NEUTRALIZATIONS" EACH MONTH.
CRITICS CHARGED THAT INNOCENT VICTIMS WERE KILLED TO FILL QUOTAS, AND THAT SOME VIETNAMESE OFFICIALS AND AGENTS ALSO USED THE SYSTEM TO SETTLE PERSONAL GRUDGES. "COLBY TESTIFIED BEFORE A CONGRESSIONAL SUBCOMMITTEE THAT TERGETS WERE KILLED ONLY WHEN THEY RESISTED ARREST. HE SUPPLIED FIGURES SHOWING THAT 20,587 VIET CONG SUSPECTS WERE KILLED UNDER THE PROGRAM FROM 1968 TO (GARBLE) VIETNAMESE OFFICIALS HAVE SAID TWICE THAT NUMBER WERE KILLED IN THE SAME PERIOD. "CONTINUED EXISTENCE OF THE PROGRAM UNDER ANOTHER NAME CAME TO LIGHT WITH AN OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT IN DECEMBER THAT ONE PROVINCIAL COMMITTEE HAD REPORTED FULFILLING 135 PER CENT OF ITS QUOTA OF NEUTRALIZATIONS FOR THE YEAR. "SAIGON GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS DECLINED TO COMMENT FURTHER ON THE ANNOUNCEMENT OR PROVIDE FIGURES FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTRY, CITING GROUNDS OF "NATIONAL SECURITY".
20,587 Vietnamese "killed whilst resisting arrest". Um, that's a lot of people killed for resisting arrest.......
In truth, as we know, the Phoenix Program was a death squad and assassination operation.
According to the above, some of its grunts were sufficiently enthusiastic to meet their "target" for kills and carry on killing.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
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Pass that on to Doug Valentine!...that's a 'keeper'.
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A discussion of actions by Ordine Nuovo and other right-wing militant groups in Italy notes how some domestic observers contend "..that right wing plotting directly involves the US (in this case, through Italy's NATO link)."
ARREST OF ARMY OFFICER FOR LINKS WITH SUBVERSIVE RIGHT- WING GROUP
https://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/1...566_b.html
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Prosecutors in Rome in 1974 issue arrest warrants against right-wing coup plotters, one of whom is a retired Air Force Vice Chief of Staff.
ARRESTS IN WAKE OF SID DOSSIER
https://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/1...220_b.html
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