Peter here is a bit further information on dpd that day i think from lancer...also a couple of dpd comps, as well as Dean's and White's photos, about all i have of them showing up within the force...in photos...b..
November 1963
Traffic Division Sergeants: "White Caps"
1st Platoon 7am-3pm
R.T. TAYLOR and D.V. Harkness*
Quote:the various interrogations of Oswald from the time he was captured to the time of his killing?
Mr. WADE. If there are any, I have never seen them. I hare asked for them,
but you are dealing with a man who not only doesn't make transcripts, but
doesn't even make notes. Captain Fritz is the one who interrogated him most
of the time, and if you-if there is any written eritlence of what he said it must
be from the FBI or the Secret Service or someone who interviewed him. I
assume they make a record of what he said to them.
Mr. DULLES. If any transcript was made we would hare had it, would we not?
So far as you know?
Mr. WADE. The only thing I know I never have seen one, and I don't have one
of an interview, and I don't know of any-you should have it, but gou are
dealing with Fritz there who interviewed Ruby, and Melvin Belli went right
into the conversation with Ruby, and Belli at 4 o'clock that afternoon made
everything admissible, and we couldn't get a thing, couldn't lmt Fritz on the
stand because he couldn't remember anything that was helpful. I mean, he
could remember Rnby rambling around the situation, but I don't know of any
transcript like that that I have that you don't have.
Mr. DULLES. In your talks, going back to your talks, with Mr. Carter at the
White House--
Mr. WADE. Carter; yes.
Mr. DULLES. Carter-did any questions come up in these conversations about
not raising the issue that he was a Communist or that there might be a con-
spiracy or something of that kind?
Mr. WADE. No, sir; that conversation, I'm rather sure sometime Friday
afternoon, and he called me and said, "Are they making any progress on the
case?" You see, Cliff Carter and I are close personal friends. I have known
him, and they were all upset, and I said, "I don't know. I have heard they have
got some pretty good evidence." I think that is the only conversation I had
with him.
Somebody told me, Mr. Carr, I believe, or Barefoot Sanders, that they had had
some conversations with some Washington officials, and I have got an impression
it was the State Department, but it might have been-that they-concerning
the international conspiracy angle. I didn't discuss it because it was silly,
I mean the whole thing was a silly deal.
I mean, if you would prove he was a Communist, suppose he gave a statement
he was a Communist, I wouldn't have put that in a murder charge because I
had to prove it.
Mr. DULLES. That is all I have, Mr. Chief Justice.
The CHAIRMAN. I think that is all, Mr. Wade. Thank you very much for your
cooperation.
Mr. WADE. I appreciate what you all are doing and your problems you have
got up here. I know if I were in your place I would hate to listen to somebody
like me talk 5 hours.
The CHAIRMAN. 811 right. We will recess until 2 o'clock.
(Whereupon, at 12 :50 p.m., the President's Commission recessed.)
Afternoon Session
TESTIMONY OF PATRICK T. DEAN
The President's Commission reconvened at 2 p.m.
(Chairman Warren presiding and Mr. Dulles present.)
The CHAIRMAN. All right, gentlemen.
Do you have a statement?
Mr. RANKIN. Sergeant Dean asked if he couldn't appear before the Commission
and testify. We took his deposition in Dallas, and he asked, when he signed his
254 deposition, whether he couldn't appear personally, so we are permitting him to
do this.
The CHAIRXAS. We are very happy to have you, Sergeant. Will you raise
your right hand and be sworn. please?
You solemnly swear the testimony you are about to give before the Commission
shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Mr. DEAN. I do.
The CHAIR~~AS. Be seated, please.
Mr. Rankin, you may examine the witness.
Mr. RANKIS. Sergeant, will you give us your name, your address. please?
Mr. DESS. Patrick T. Dean. I live at XL2 Nicholson Drive in Dallas.
Mr. RASICIN. Are you connected with the police department in Dallas?
Mr. DEAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. RAXKIN. What is your position?
Mr. DEAS. I am a sergeant on patrol.
Mr. RANKIN. How long have you been an official in the police department?
Mr. DEAN. Eleven and a half years.
Mr. RAKKIT. Will you tell us briefly any training or experience you have had?
Mr. DEAK. Well, I worked as a patrolman for 5 years. Then I was pro-
moted to sergeant and remained in the patrol division. I have since been in
the patrol division the rest of the time.
Mr. RANKIN. You have given us your deposition, have you not, Sergeant?
Mr. DEAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. RANKIN. And is that correct and true as far as anything you know?
Mr. DEAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. RANKIN. Is there any part of it that you want to change or correct or
modify?
Mr. DEAN. No, sir; I feel the main reason I wanted to appear before the
Commission was about the 20 or 25 minutes that was off the record that I feel
I would like the Commission to have on the record, and this is between Mr.
Griffin and I. He was the original one who started my deposition.
Mr. RAR'KIN. Well, do you want to tell that at this time?
First, is there anything about what you said on the record that was not
correct?
Mr. DEAN. No, sir.
Mr. RANKIN. And the truth?
Mr. DEAN. No, sir.
Well, Mr. Griffin had questioned me about 2 hours, or maybe a little longer.
There was no problems at all. no difficulties. And after that length of time, a
little over 2 hours, Mr. Griffin desired to get off the record, and he advised the
court reporter that he would be off the record and he could go smoke a cigarette
or get a Coke, and he would let him know when he wanted him to get back on
the record.
Well, after the court reporter left, Mr. Griffin started talking to me in a
manner of gaining my confidence in that he would help me and that he felt I
would probably need some help in the future.
My not knowing what he was building up to, I asked Mr. Griffin to go ahead
and ask me what he was going to ask me. He continued to advise me that
he wanted me to listen to what he had to say before he asked me whatever
question he was going to ask me. I finally told him that whatever he wanted
to ask me he could just ask me, and if I knew I would tell him the truth or
if I didn't know, I would tell him I didn't know.
Mr. Griffin took my reports, one dated February 18, the subject of it was
an interview with Jack Ruby, and one dated November 26, which was my
assignment in the basement.
He said there were things in these statements which were not true and, in
fact, he said both these statements, he said there were particular things in
there that were not true, and I asked him what portions did he consider not
true, and then very dogmatically he said that, "Jack Ruby didn't tell you that
he entered the basement via the Main Street ramp."
And, of course, I was shocked at this. This is what I testified to, in fact,
I was cross-examined on this, and he, Mr. Griffin, further said, "Jack Ruby
255 did not tell you that he had thought or planned to kill Oswald two nights prior."
And he said, "Your testimony was false, and these reports to your chief of
police are false."
So this, of course, all this was off the record. I told Mr. Griffin then this
shocked me, and I told him it shocked me; that I couldn't imagine what he
was getting at or why he would accuse me of this, and I asked him, and Mr.
Griffin replied he didn't or he wasn't at liberty to discuss that particular pati
of it with me, and that he wasn't trying to cross-examine me here, but that under
cross-examination he could prove that my testimony was false, and that is when
I told Mr. Griffin that these are the facts and I can't change them. This is
what I know about it.
I quoted Ruby just about verbatim, and since he didn't believe me, and I
was saying they were true, we might as well terminate the interview.
Mr. Griffin then got bark on the record, or before he did get back on the record,
he said, "Well now, Sergeant Dean, I respect you as a witness, I respect you in
your profession, but 1 have offered my help and assistance, and I again will offer
you my assistance, and that I don't feel you will be subjecting yourself to loss
of your job." or some words to that effect, "If you will go ahead and tell me
the truth about it."
I again told Mr. Griffin that these were the facts and I couldn't change them,
so with that we got back on the record.
Mr. RASKIN. Did you ask Mr. Griffin to ever put this part that was off the
record on the record?
Mr. DEAN. No, sir; I didn't.
Mr. RAP~KIN. Why didn't you at that time?
Mr. DEAN. Well, now the discussion was, I said, "Mr. Griffin, I have waived
my rights for an attorney, of which I don't feel like I need one." I still don't
feel like I need one.
The CHAIRMAN. And you do not need one either Sergeant.
Mr. DEAN. True.
The CHAIR~~~N. You will get along all right.
Mr. DEAN. Thank you.
I said, "I have come over here with the idea of giving you all the information
that I have." In fact, I had some additional information that I had gotten
the night before, and it was a call that I had received from some man in Vic-
toria, Canada, who said he had a reel of movie film that he had taken of the
assassination.
I got this man's name, where he called from, had the police department in
Victoria check to crisscross the number, and I gave him the nam+well, all
the information as to where the call had originated from, his name, also this
man's attorney, he had given me his name, and I told him that the reason the
man had called, had called especially for me at the police department, was t.hat
he had a reel of movie film that he had taken the day of the assassination and
that these--or the camera was on the President at the time of the assassination,
and he described to me the position as to where he was, which was across and in
trajectory of the line of fire, and that he felt that in addition to the assassination
that he had gotten the School Book Depository.
I told Mr. Griffin at the time that I had told this man---I can't remember his
name, the FBI has gotten it, and at the time I gave it to Mr. Griffin, I told
this man on the telephone from Victoria that night that he should send these
things, this Alm, that he said wasn't developed, to the Warren Commission.
He said, that is when he told me that he had contacted his attorney in Victoria
and that his attorney's name was Batter, and he spelled it for me, B-a-t-t-e-r,
and his attorney had advised him not to send this information to the Warren
Commission but to contact someone in Dallas and send it to them.
This man told me that he had read something about my testimony and that
he asked me would it be all right for him to send it to me, and I told him, "Yes,"
and I said I was supposed to go back to the Warren Commission and he could
send it to me, and I would make it available for them.
This was just additional information that I told Mr. Griffin that I was-this
is an example-I was there to help them in any way I could.
Mr. RANKIN. Now, the differences in your testimony that Mr. Grifan was dis-
256 cussing with you off the record, you have gone into that in detail on the record,
haven't you, in your deposition?
Mr. DEAN. Yes; I beliere I hare, about how Ruby entered the basement or
how he told me how he entered the basement. Also that he had thought two
nights prior when he saw Lee Oswald on a showup stand with a sarcastic sneer
on his face is when he decided if he got the chance he would kill him. This was
the thing that I testified in court about. I was cross-examined in court.
Mr. RASKIN. And you hare explained all that in your deposition, haven't you?
Mr. DEAN. I beliere so; I am not certain.
Mr. RANKIN. And did he ask you about why you didn't hare your-this
information about his planning to shoot Oswald the night before, or on the
Friday-
Mr. DEAN. Now, are you askin g did Xr. Griffin ask me why I didn't-
Mr. RANKIN. Why you didn't put it in your February-in your statement
before the February 18 one?
Mr. DEAN. Yes, sir ; I believe he did, and I explained to him this wasn't the sub-
ject-the subject of that Sorember 26 report was my assignment. I didn't put
any of the conversation as to what Mr. Sorrels and I talked to Mr. Ruby about.
I did put at the closing paragraph, I think. and I haTe a copy of it here, that my
main concern was how he got into the basement and how long he had been there
because I was in charge of the security of the basement.
Mr. RANKIN. So you didn't put it in your prior reports?
Mr. DEAN. No, sir; this was later on. Chief Curry-I think probably it was
February l&and I think I probably wrote it that day, called me to his office
and asked me had I heard all the interview of Ruby and Sorrels, and I told
him that I did, and he asked me could I remember it pretty well, and I said,
"Yes, I believe I can remember most all of it," and that is when Chief Curry told
me that; he said, "Well, you are going to have to testify to it because Mr.
Sorrels can't because he says he didn't warn Mr. Ruby when he was questioning
him.
Well, this was fine with me. I wrote the renort. This was February 18.
Mr. RANKIN. Did you tell Mr. Griffin at that time that you thought it was
unimportant or had some other reason for not including it?
Mr. DEAN. I believe that I told him that the investigation, the focal point,
was as to how he got into the basement. There was an officer, and I knew who
the officer was, I assigned him there myself, and I felt this was more of a part
of the investigation in which it was investigated-Officer R. E. Vaughan was
investigated as to whether or not he let Ruby into the basement or saw him in
the basement, and, of course, he was cleared of this. I know of no-the only
information I passed on about that was when Jack Ruby told me how he entered.
I told my superiors and then they carried it on from there as far as the
investigation.
Mr. RANKIN. And about his planning to shoot him prior to the day that-
Mr. DEAN. Now, this wasn't-the only time that I put that in the report was
February 18.
Mr. RANKIN. Yes; did you explain to Mr. Griffin in your prior testimony why
you didn't put it in?
Mr. DEAN. I believe that I did; I am not sure.
Mr. RAPI'KIN. Do you want to add anythin g to that, just anything that you
wanted, to the Commission?
The CHAIRJIAN. Do you recall whether you were asked that specific question
or not, Sergeant? May I ask, Mr. Rankin, was he asked that question, and did
he answer it?
Mr. RANKIN. I have to look at the record to be sure.
Mr. Chief Justice, in answer to-your question, he was asked about what was
the first time that he had given this information and if this was the date. He
was not asked for any explanation as to why he didn't give it at any earlier
time.
The CH~IR~~AN. Then we can't blame him if he didn't answer why.
Mr. RANKIN. So; I just wanted to find out if he wanted to add anything at
this time that would complete the record.
The CHAIRMAN. Yes; all right.
257 JIr. DEAS. Well, my main concern has been in some way this got out to the
palm-s. The only thing I told the papers was that I can't give any statement.
I said I have no comment, and I feel that the accusation started with my denial
because I haven't had an 0pl)ortunity to deny it. The story came nut in the
leapers and it has been on the radio sorer:11 times, and. in fact. several times since
the original, some weeks or so after the paper learned of it of the so-called rift,
as they put it.
They had the one side of it that he accused me of lying. He didn't use the
word "lie," he just said, "These are false statetllents. and when you testified
in court you testified falsely." He didn't use the word "lying," and a lot of
papers have since then used the word "lying."
I feel like the accusation is a lot stronger than my denial because I haven't
denied it. I haven't made any statement at all to press or radio or any news
media. I just told them it will have to come from the Warren Commission or
some other source.
Mr. RANKIN. What I was asking, Sergeant, was whether there is anything
that you would like to tell the Commission or add to your testimony about why
it wasn't in the earlier statement prior to February 18 that you haven't already
told us.
Mr. DEAN. Well, I don't think I would like-if I could, I would like to know
why Mr. Griffin had accused me of perjury. Of course, this is something for
you people to know, but I just-he wouldn't discuss it with me.
The CHAIR~IAN. Well, Sergeant, I want to say to you that, of course, without
knowing what your conversation was with Mr. Griffin, I have never talked to
Mr. Griffin about this. I didn't know that you had this altercation with him,
but I want to say this: That so far as the jurisdiction of this Commission is
concerned and its procedures, no member of our staff has a right to tell any
witness that he is lying or that he is testifying falsely. That is not his business.
It is the business of this Commission to appraise the testimony of all the wit-
nesses, and, at the time you are talking about, and up to the present time, this
Commission has never appraised your testimony or fully appraised the testimony
of any other witness, and furthermore, I want to say to you that no member of
our staff has any power to help or injure any witness.
So, so far as that conversation is concerned, there is nothing that will be
binding upon this Commission.
Mr. DEAN. Yes, sir.
The CHAIR>IAN. But, as I say, I don't know what your conversation was with
Griffin, but I am just telling ydu as to what the limitations of the members of
our staff are.
Mr. DEAN. Yes, sir; thank you. That is about all I had.
Mr. RANKIN. That is all I have, Mr. Chief Justice.
The CHAIRLIAR'. Well, thank you, Sergeant, for coming and feeling as you
do, I am glad you had the frankness to come and talk to the Commission,
and offer to testify concerning it.
Mr. DEAN. Thank you. I appreciate the opportunity.
The CHAIRMAN. All right, Sergeant.
Mr. DEAN. Thank you. It is nice to have met you.
Mr. RASKIN. Waggoner, do you want to take the stand for a minute about
that conversation?
The CHAIRMAN. You are going to ask the General about it?
Have you been sworn?
TESTIMONY OF WAGGONER CARR
Do you solemnly swear the testimony you are about to give before the Com-
mission shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help
you God?
Mr. CARL I do.
The CHAIRMAN. Be seated, please.
Proceed, Mr. Rankin.
Mr. RANKIN. Mr. Carr, will you state your name and position for the record?
258
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
The Oswald Transfer:Harry Holmes: Oswald was to be transferred to a "federal holdover" at the County
Courthouse. Bill Courson: Decker expected to handle the Oswald transfer, and do it at 3 a.m., but when
he called, Curry said they were going to do it. Curry had yielded to
political pressure. L.D. Montgomery: FBI agent James Bookhout expected that Oswald would be shot during the
transfer. Charles Arnett, Dallas Police: He and Patrick Dean handled basement security for the transfer. Dean was a
friend of Ruby. Ruby "ran right by me" and shot Oswald. Oswald died instantly [not true] Orville Jones: Involved in basement security for the transfer. Later handled the investigation of the Oswald shooting, but said he didn't
know whether Dean was in charge of security or not. Rio Pierce: Tippit's supervisor was involved in basement security for the Oswald
transfer. There was no screening of people entering through City Hall. Knew Ruby, would have recognized him, didn't see him. He could have come in
through City Hall with reporters; there were three other options, but the
ramp was also possible, though not very likely (as he saw no sign of Ruby as
he pulled out). James Leavelle: Ruby told him that he came down the Main St. ramp. LC. Graves, brother-in-law of Paul Bentley (polygraph business together): City Manager Elgin Crull was an ex-newsman, and ordered Curry to transfer
Oswald with the press present. But when Ruby shot Oswald, Crull let Curry
take all the blame. Roy Vaughn: Crull or Cabell ordered the public transfer of Oswald. Knew Ruby, didn't see him enter by the ramp. Napoleon Daniels told him that
day that Ruby definitely didn't enter by the ramp-later, he changed his
story. Don Flusche also told him he was watching from across the street the whole
time, and didn't see Ruby in the area at all. Ruby likely entered via one of the alley entrances. Was told by the DPD that they knew someone let Ruby in, and he assumed they
were referring to Patrick Dean. Donald Flusche: Was standing across the street from Roy Vaughn, had a view of the whole
sidewalk there, never saw Ruby, he definitely didn't enter via the ramp. Sgt. Stavis Ellis: Mayor Cabell and City Manager Elgin Crull ordered Chief Curry to make the
transfer when newsmen could witness it. Curry was later offered a
high-paying security job to shut up about it. Ruby entered the basement with a camera crew. [This is how he entered
Parkland Hospital on Friday, according to newsman Roy Stamps.] Edgar Smith, Dallas Police: Patrick Dean [in charge of security for the Oswald transfer] was a drinker
and a ladies' man. Ruby's Motive: Jack Faulkner: Ruby was no great fan of JFK. Elmo Cunningham: He knew Ruby well. Ruby never mentioned JFK. Thought Ruby shot Oswald because it would make him rich. Gerald Hill, DPD: Thought Ruby shot Oswald because it would make him rich. James Leavelle: Ruby once told him he wanted to come upon an officer in trouble so that he
could save him. He wanted to be a hero. Joe Cody: Ruby wasn't impulsive. Bill Alexander: He thought killing Oswald would make him a celebrity, he'd open a club in
Manhattan, write a book, and make a fortune. Tom Howard: Orville Jones: Just after Ruby's arrest, they got a call saying there was a writ for his
release. Capt. Fritz said to ignore it. Bill Alexander: Just after Ruby's arrest, Tom Howard tried to get him out on a writ. Donald Flusche: Tom Howard likely would have gotten Ruby off. Joe Cody: Ruby expected a light sentence. Al Maddox: Ruby expected to get off. Bill Alexander, Asst. D.A.: Tom Howard probably could have gotten Ruby off light, but Melvin Belli came
in and alienated everyone and got Ruby the death penalty. W.W. Mabra: Tom Howard died from falling off a horse. Ruby: Connected to the Mafia? Hugh Aynesworth: such ties were "dreamed". Roy Westphal, Dallas Police Intelligence: Though in the intelligence division, Westphal knew almost nothing about an
organized crime presence in Dallas. Joe Cody: Ruby told him that he had been labor "muscle" in Chicago. Bill Alexander: Ruby was a blabbermouth. The Mafia wouldn't have trusted him. But Alexander also didn't believe that Carlos Marcello had any influence in
Dallas, or that Joe Campisi or Joe Civello were connected to the Mafia [but
Civello attended the 1957 Mafia national conference at Apalachin NY] Was Ruby a homosexual?: Jack Faulkner: Ruby admitted being homosexual. Gus Rose: Ruby was homosexual. Rio Pierce: Ruby was a suspected homosexual. L.C. Graves, Dallas Police: Ruby liked the women. Joe Cody: Ruby wasn't homosexual. Ruby and the Police: W.G. Lumpkin: A lot of officers knew Ruby. Jack Faulkner: "Everybody knew Jack Ruby." Vincent Drain: Knew and liked Ruby. Elmo Cunningham: Knew Ruby well, had worked security at his first place in Dallas. Gerry Hill: Knew Ruby. A lot of officers did. John Toney, Dallas Police: Knew Ruby. Capt. W.R. Westbook, Dallas Police: Half of the police knew Ruby and considered him a friend. A lot of policemen
went to his clubs. L.C. Graves, escorted Oswald: Knew Ruby at all of his clubs in Dallas. It was a bad idea to accept favors
from him. James Leavelle, escorted Oswald: Knew Ruby since 1950. Orville Jones: A lot of police knew Ruby. He was a good source. Charles Arnett: Patrick Dean was a friend of Ruby. Rio Pierce: Knew Ruby. Roy Vaughn: Knew Ruby. Donald Flusche: Knew Ruby. Ruby knew how to "play irrational." Ruby had lots of police acquaintances, 60-80. He was considered a clown. Joe Cody: Ruby was a friend. Cody bought Ruby the pistol used to shoot Oswald. They
used to ice skate together once or twice a week. There were ten or twelve police drinking in the Carousel Club every night.
About 200 officers knew Ruby; he would charge them 35 cents for a $1.50
beer. Bill Courson: Had recently arrested Ruby for threatening Jada. Before he could make the
arrest, Jada had second thoughts and tried to get the warrant canceled, but
the judge refused. She then tipped off Ruby, and he wasn't there when police
arrived. He later came in voluntarily, and was soon released. Knew Ruby. Bill Alexander: Knew Ruby. He wasn't a "police buff," he was just protecting his beer
license. It had to be approved annually by three agencies, including the
Dallas Police. Ruby's Illness and Death: Al Maddox: Locally powerful Judge Lew Sterrett took the regular jail doctor off the
Ruby case, and brought in a small, pock-marked doctor from Chicago who gave
Ruby shots.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
The Commission was obviously desperate to erase Dean's witnessing of Ruby saying he planned to kill Oswald for two days. It would have made them investigate the facts surrounding that scenario which would have forced questions over Ruby accessing his relationship to the Dallas PD at the Carousel in order to gain entry to the police station.
In hindsight somebody standing up at the Commission and demanding simple answers to simple things would have gone a long way.
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Sgt. Dean had some strange connections, and like several others he was
at multiple KEY spots after the assassination (perhaps during as well
in one case).
Beverly Oliver, a.k.a. "The Babushka Lady", was in a key spot during
the assassination and she also had relationships with the local police
force. She would basically agree with Jean Hill's testimony in terms
of what she saw that day. She also headed north across the street
after the shots and headed up the hill towards the knoll as she also
thought the shots came from there.
She said in her book "Nightmare in Dallas" she had less concern for
alarm when she got to the knoll because there were cops already
there. She said she saw Sgt. P.T. Dean and "Geneva's Husband" (Geneva
was employed in the Carousel Club among others) there! Now for those
of you NOT familiar with Geneva's husband his name was Roscoe White!
The same Roscoe White who would die in a fire in 1971 and have his son
come forward in 1991 and claim his father shot JFK. The same Roscoe
White who had a UNSEEN copy of a BY photo in his possession.
Oliver would keep her mouth shut when the news was broadcasted that
the lone assassin had been on the sixth floor of the TSBD and NOT the
GN for obvious reasons as she had to wonder what Dean and White were
doing there soooo fast then.
The FBI wanted her film (she had taken her Yashica movie camera with
her that day) and she at first wondered how they knew she had the film
in the first place since she had NOT talked with them at DP. She
thought maybe they had seen her in another film and ID'd her, but she
did not think that was possible and then it struck her, when she ran
into Dean and White they must have seen the camera she had with her.
She would ID the FBI agent as Regis Kennedy when shown a bunch of
photos by researcher Gary Shaw (this man helped to steal much video
evidence and destroy it) and he was also the "case officer" for the
Marcello case. Her film was taken (with no receipt) and she has never
seen it since. She believes this film would have contained the key to
the case as well.
They tried to discredit Ms. Oliver by saying she couldn't have filmed
the assassination anyway as the Yashica camera was NOT available in
1963, but they were shown once again to be the liars they were when a
Yashica representative said it was not widely available until 1965,
BUT such models were availbable in select locations of the U.S. in
1963.
Dean would tell the WC that there was a Canadian journalist who took
photos during the assassination. WC attorney Burt Griffin instructed
Dean to return the next day and to "plan to tell the truth." Of
course when Dean returned Griffin was not allowed to question him.
What were Dean and White doing on the GN so fast? Why were they there
if the ONLY shots came from the TSBD as the WC claimed? (OF course
the majority of the police went to the GN first).
Dean was also involved in the LHO transfer and would give crucial
evidence against Jack Ruby, but remain close friends with him. Dean
was in charge of the security detail during the transfer and would
claim that Ruby told him a few minutes after shooting LHO that he,
Ruby, had been planning to do it. Even WC counsel Griffin did NOT
believe this and said he felt Dean was lying. Part of this reasoning
was due to the fact it was shown Dean was NOT alone with Ruby for some
time after the shooting, thus it would have been impossible for others
NOT to have heard this confession as well. But this was accepted by
the court and eventually it would be overturned on appeal.
Dean was the "author" of the lie that Ruby came down the Main St. ramp
past Roy Vaughn and into the basement. There is NO evidence that this
is what happened, in fact Officer Vaughn passed THREE lie detector
tests on this topic while Dean FAILED his -- and he was allowed to
write HIS OWN QUESTIONS TOO! Ruby was already in the building and
came into the basement another way with help of Asst. Chielf Batchelor
in all liklihood.
There is ample evidence showing quite a few folks knew ahead of time
that this shooting was going to happen and in terms of Dean it relates
to a lie regarding the doctor who was immediately on hand. This
doctor had stethoscope in pocket, ready for action. His act of giving
LHO artificial respiration, which forced blood at higher speed through
blood vessels probably did as much as the bullet to kill LHO (Vol. 19,
pp. 411-12). Dean's WC testimony would cited Dr. Bieberdorf as
DETECTIVE Brederdorf in an effort to hide the fact the had a doctor
ready and waiting. (CE2003, Vol. 24, p. 352)
Jim Marrs has suggested that Ruby was killed via inducd cancer by the
DPD as Ruby could have taken to PH for a physical and left in a room
with the X-ray equipment left on. (Crossfire, p. 433) More recent
research cites a "Patrick Dane" (assumed to be a typo for P.T. Dean),
seen on the knoll, and in charge of basement security when LHO was
shot, as involved in Ruby's passing. (Livingstone, Killing the Truth,
p. 551)
More strange connections tie Dean to the evidence that would be
"found" at PH. Dean's daughter, Tivilla Hoff, was the granddaughter
of O.P. Wright, the head of security at Parkland Hospital. Her step-
grandmother was Elizabeth Goode Wright who was the HEAD OF NURSING at
Parkland Hospital! Tivilla believed her father might have had
complicit in the conspiracy and with his connections at the hospital
he was in a position to obtain evidence and or plant evidence at PH on
that day. (Livingstone, The Radical Right and The Murder of JFK, p.
90)
In 1973 Dean would have a suspicious accident and have to retire from
the DPD. Dr. William Hall of Dalla noted that since the time of the
assassination Dean has had a "nervous irritability and insomnia and
inablility to perform productive labor of any sort." Hall would also
say Dean had "chronic anxiety syndrome" and this sure could be due to
guilt and fear.
Dean had many connections to the mob and to other key figures in this
case for these to go unnoticed and uninvestigated at the time. Much
of what has come out did not come out for many years afterwards when
he was looked into more fully by the HSCA, but by then 15 years had
passed.
Thank you for linking to my post on ACJ Peter. I appreciate it so I don't have to cut and paste it here.
Also, Sgt. Patrick Dean of the DPD said Ruby told him two nights before the shooting he planned on gunning down LHO. (V, 257)
Mr. DEAN - ...Mr. Griffin took my reports, one dated February 18, the subject of it was an interview with Jack Ruby, and one dated November 26, which was my assignment in the basement.
He said there were things in these statements which were not true and, in fact, he said both these statements, he said there were particular things in there that were not true, and I asked him what portions did he consider not true, and then very dogmatically he said that, "Jack Ruby didn't tell you that he entered the basement via the Main Street ramp."
And, of course, I was shocked at this. This is what I testified to, in fact, I was cross-examined on this, and he, Mr. Griffin, further said, "Jack Ruby did not tell you that he had thought or planned to kill Oswald two nights prior."
And he said, "Your testimony was false, and these reports to your chief of police are false."
So this, of course, all this was off the record. I told Mr. Griffin then this shocked me, and I told him it shocked me; that I couldn't imagine what he was getting at or why he would accuse me of this, and I asked him, and Mr Griffin replied he didn't or he wasn't at liberty to discuss that particular of it with me, and that he wasn't trying to cross-examine me here, but that under cross- examination he could prove that my testimony was false, and that is when I told Mr. Griffin that these are the facts and I can't change them. This is what I know about it.
I quoted Ruby just about verbatim, and since he didn't believe me, and I was saying they were true, we might as well terminate the interview.
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