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Sympathy for the Devil? No, Mick Sympathy for WeThePeople.
#41
This research is on-going.
A few side activities compete for time. R/C Sailplanes to fly.
A new bird to fledge for this season.

After a couple of weeks I'll get back to this important topic...
Next direction to include AWDulles and Ludendorff with the rise of the Freikorps.
good at y'all
Jim
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#42
War never changes. Versions change and places change. Motives change. But not war.
Like the chessboard opening, the pieces (resources and logistics) have to be put hither and yon. Memos of understanding have to be understood. 1914's war too had to be made ready for european carnage again.
A geopolitical starting line procedure of sorts, like a prestage stage go sequence in drag race terms.


From: Preparata's Conjuring Hitler beginning on p. 22


"Besieging Germany

In the summer of 1914, Germany stood behind Austria, Russia behind Serbia. British diplomacy could now entrap both: the ally and enemy alike.


On July6, Britain's Foreign Secretary, Lord Grey, informed the German ambassador that Russia was yet unprepared to intervene, and that Britain had no binding obligation vis-à-vis either Russia or France: a deliberate lie. 42

Two days later, the British Foreign Minister assured the Russians that, according to very reliable military sources', the Germans were rapidly conveying divisions to the East, and that the situation looked upon the Reich with disfavor: an even bigger lie. 43


All such deceiving signals issued by the Foreign Office in cross-directions behind closed doors were accompanied in Britain by a public show of phoney attempts at mediation in the name of peace, initiated with an eye to deceive the multitudes. 44 Britain had always been careful to spin the international tangle so as to drive the opponent in the position of the assailant, and reserve for herself the role of the peace-loving defender. This was a psychological artifice tailored for mass seduction, and the Germans had no knowledge or understanding of such tricks.

Austria issued the ultimatum to Serbia: a comprehensive injunction to annihilate any form of anti-Austrian propaganda in Serbia, and to open a formal investigation into the assassination, [Archduke Ferdinand] in which delegates of the Austrian empire were to partake. 45 Serbia accepted all points but the last one, which, in a theatrical diplomatic counter-move, she offered to submit to international arbitration at the international court of The Hague. Clearly, she had been instructed to turn down the ultimatum by her patrons, who had been waiting a long time for this moment: already on July 25, the British Treasury began printing special Notes, non-convertible into gold, marked for war expenses. 46



The war against Serbia into which Austria was deliberately incited by the ruinous intrigues of Serbia at the instigation of Russia was a trap into which Austria fell, not knowing it was fomented by Russia to create a pretext of general mobilization and war and to make Austria and Germany appear to the world as the willful originators of the great conflict. 47



The armies of Franz Josef prepared the attack against Serbia, Wilhelm was overjoyed heedless of the consequences. After one more round of perfunctory diplomatic waltzes between London, Berlin, Paris and St. Petersburg, Austria-Hungary went ahead and on July 28 bombarded Belgrade. The war had begun.


Russia, secretly goaded by France, who promised her support,48 mobilized along her western frontier, and the German generals obviously awaited the green light from the Kaiser to launch the Schlieffen offensive. Portales, the German ambassador in St. Petersburg, rushed to the foreign ministry, and asked its head, Saznaov, to halt the Russian mobilization. He implored three times. When the Russian minister refused for the last time, Portales hand him with trembling hand, Germany's declaration of war. It happened on August 1.

However, upon hearing the news of Russia's massing troops, Wilhelm somewhat broke out of his stupor and commiseratively brought himself to acknowledge the truth of the situation:



In this way the stupidity and clumsiness of our ally is turned into a noose. So the celebrated encirclement of Germany has finally become an accomplished fact. … The net has suddenly closed over our heads, and the purely anti-German policy which England has been scornfully pursuing all over the world has won the most spectacular victory which we have proved powerless to prevent while they, having got us despite our struggles all alone into the net through our loyalty to Austria, proceed to throttle our political and economic existence. A magnificent achievement which even those for whom it means disaster are bound to admire. 49



Indeed it was, and for such a disaster, the Germans had only themselves to blame.


At the outbreak of war, Rasputin brooded: No more stars in the sky … An ocean of tears … Our Motherland has never suffered a martyrdom as that which awaits us … Russia will drown in her own blood.' 50


In yet another sudden coup de theatre, as Germany prepared to unleash the onslaught on the Western Front, Britain issued one last cunning call for peace by informing the soon-to-be-warring parties that she was willing to guarantee her neutrality and provide assurances that France would not join the side of Russia in an eventual Russo-German conflict, provided Germany did not attack France. This last mischievous prank, which Wilhelm with diabolical perseverance, took for a British accolade to his eastern invasion, nearly caused the already shaken Chief of the German General Staff, Helmuth Von Moltke, to break down the German mobilization was complete; the armies had to push forth, he insisted.


Pressured by the general, the German government as a brash counter-bargain demanded no less than the acquisition of two French fortresses (Toul and Verdun) as security' for French neutrality. France naturally rejected the offer. On August 3, Germany declared war upon France. Staggering from one pitfall to another, Germany had turned herself into the world aggressor, Abel Ferry, the French Under-Secretary of State, wrote in his notebook" The web was spun and Germany entered it like a giant buzzing fly.' 51

Finally, as her turn came next, Britain came full circle: knowing that Moltke was ready to thrust Ludendorff's fusiliers through Belgium, the British government solemnly declared that it could not possibly tolerate the violation of Belgium's neutrality; it then professed its unconditional adherence to peace, and, shameless, assured the public that it had signed no secret compacts with France or Russia. 52


When the Schlieffen Plan was enacted and the Reich's armies crossed into Flanders, Britain sent Germany an ultimatum, which she knew the Reich would have ignored; but to avoid surprises (it expired at midnight) the British Cabinet exploited the time lag between London and Berlin, and shortened the waiting by an hour.


Sitting in silence round a large circular table covered with a neat green cloth, the ministers furtively eyed the big clock until it struck 11:00. Twenty minutes later Winston Churchill, the First Lord of the Admiralty, walked into the hall to inform his colleagues that a telegram had been dispatched across the empire summoning the Royal Fleet to begin operations. 53


And where did the summer of 1914 find Adolf Hitler? At 25, already a veteran of Viennese flophouses one amongst many bourgeois rates young Hitler joined, with a profound sense of deliverance and expectancy a Bavarian regiment with the rank of private. A man that enlists, said Pasternak, is not a happy man:



A few days[s] later I was wearing the tunic which I was not to doff until nearly six years later. For me as for every German, there now began the greatest and most unforgettable time of my early existence, Compared to the events of this gigantic struggle, everything past receded to shallow nothingness. 54



Hitler would fight on the Western Front and earn several decorations for bravery."


Notes:

42. Erusalimskij, Bismarck, p. 234.

43. Ibid., p. 235.

44. The philosopher Bertrand Russell wrote: 'I had noticed during the previous years how carefully Sir Edward Grey lied in order to prevent the public from knowing the methods by which he was committing us to the support of France in the event of war' (Fromkin, Peace, p. 125).

45. Tarle, Breve storia, p. 279.

46. Quigley, Tragedy, pp. 316-17.

47. Owen, Russian Imperial Conspiracy, p. 14

48. Erusalimskij, Bismarck, p. 269.

49. Balfour, The Kaiser, p. 351

50. Quoted in Geminello Alvi, Dell'estremo occidente. Il secolo americano in Europa. Storie economiche, (Firenze: Marco Nardi Editore, 1993), p. 75

51. Degrelle, Hitler, p. 86

52. Fromkin, Peace, p. 125.

53. Erusalimskij, Bismarck, pp. 255-56.

54. Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf (Boston: Houghton Mifflin Company, 1971 [1924-26]) pp. 163-64


[End Quote from Conjuring Hitler]

Typos are mine, comments to follow.
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#43
I am looking into AWDulles and VILenin in the same rough time frame as AHitler above.
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#44
Jim

Adolf Hitler will fit right in, doing his part.

The authors of Grey Wolf: The Escape of Adolf Hitler indicate Allen W. Dulles and brother John Foster agreed to the plan involving a sliding concrete panel, a tunnel to the underground, a flight to Denmark, a U-Boat to South America, a tri-engine to Argentina, and a life with Eva until February 13, 1962, leaving two sons.

We find Dean Acheson omitting Korea from the U.S. defense perimeter resulting in the June 1950 invasion. Forty years hence April Glaspie's assurance to Saddam Hussein that Kuwait was a regional matter led to the August invasion.

Tonkin Gulf to the Twin Towers, war requires a pretext.

On to Syria--but first, expect trumpets and the telescreen to announce the next outrage.
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#45
Phil Dragoo Wrote:On to Syria--but first, expect trumpets and the telescreen to announce the next outrage.
All those useful chemical weapons keep being found in the hands of the FSA....Damn.
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#46
I am glad be here.
I am quite grateful for all encouragement and suggestions.

Grey Wolf I have barely opened, but this Dulles Brothers and Dean Acheson matter is significant.
Thanks Phil...

As for Syria, MSM spouts: they got the missing WMDs from Iraq, so we can feel better about the Iraq faisco, right?

CIA has the receipts for the chemical weapons we sold Iraq.

And the "coalition of the willing" S.O.G. folks were caught trying to import WMDs from Syria to Iraq in secret. Or maybe also from Jordan? Circa 2004. Another CYA thing that failed.

MSM says .... sound of embedded crickets in the night.

Any old port in a black op....

The privatized weapon trades people (salesmen) are loving it. War never changes.
Jim
Read not to contradict and confute;
nor to believe and take for granted;
nor to find talk and discourse;
but to weigh and consider.
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#47
The Grey Wolf-detailed meme may be to Hitler survival studies may be what the Grassy Knoll shot is to JFK assassination studies.

In Ratline: Soviet Spies, Nazi Priests, and the Disappearance of Adolf Hitler, Peter Levenda gives us a "South Knoll"-like alternative.

Highly recommended, and for numerous reasons.
Charles Drago
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#48
Charles Drago Wrote:The Grey Wolf-detailed meme may be to Hitler survival studies may be what the Grassy Knoll shot is to JFK assassination studies.

In Ratline: Soviet Spies, Nazi Priests, and the Disappearance of Adolf Hitler, Peter Levenda gives us a "South Knoll"-like alternative.

Highly recommended, and for numerous reasons.

Nicely done.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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#49
I happened into the Peter Levenda guest appearance with Ian Punnett on Coast to Coast AM on May 13.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/05/13

Show audio is available at this link. Of note is this paragraph:

The Pochs' escape, Levenda observed, was particularly suspicious because they were not wanted by the Allies and Hella abandoned a highly successful career as an anthropologist for a life of anonymity in Indonesia. Having investigated what is known about the Pochs in Indonesia, Levenda was struck by the fact that 'Hella Poch' left the country to go back to Europe the same year that Eva Braun's father became sick and died. Additionally, Levenda shared the story of his trip to Indonesia to visit the grave of Georg Anton Poch, who died in 1970. Despite not sharing the true reason for his visit to the graveyard, Levenda revealed that the man who brought him to the tombstone whispered "Hitler" to him when they arrived at the grave. For related information check out this video of Levenda's visit to Surabaya and this article on the disguises American intelligence agencies thought Hitler may have used if he had escaped.

I understand that another historic figure was spirited off to Indonesia for protection under Sukarno, one known variously as Obama or Sotero, and in the deepest political view, son of Malik Al-Shabazz.

Under the two hypotheses, the common given is that no proof of the death of Hitler has been presented, the skull being female.

Each of the narratives go as far as Argentina.

Hitler and Haj Amin al-Husseini, Himmler and same, then, in 1955, dba Malcolm X.

Georg Anton Poch, died 1970, the year Obama returned to Hawaii.

Passport records of the extant POTUS sanitized by John Brennan's The Analysis Corporation, whose CEO is now DCI, the first such to be a Muslim convert.

Dulles as a principal facilitator at the key foci of history, Switzerland and Lenin, OSS and Ratline/Paper Clip, the institution of the security state in 1963.

The chessmen are moved, be they Hitler, Saddam, Morsi. Threats are removed, e.g., Hastings, Breitbart, Snowden, et al.

Charles, you have identified yet another twin track of tradecraft, the Grey Wolf-Ratline final chapter of Hitler. Not Harvey and Lee, but Adolf and MNU.
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#50
I have the two titles you all have suggested, but I am guilty of once again being sidetracked.
Peter LaVenda's Sinister Forces the Manson Secret got bumped up past "Ratlines" and "Grey Wolf".

Oddly, I know the penetration of "organized religion" into daily life by organizations I wouldn't trust.
Rockefellers (Thy Will Be Done), or The Dulles Brothers (A Certain Arrogance), Mr. LaVenda is forcing me to think deeper about the "god games" - as opposed to faith that plays no games.

So let me get back to Ratline and Grey Wolf and let Sinister Forces hold off to the CIA/Nazi Medicos - MKalphabet soup of programs and such.

I thank all very much for encouragement.
Best to all
Jim
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