CSETI Expedition Yields First Ever Photograph of an Extraterrestrial

[Ed Jewett]

Reviewing this thread and the contact protocols reminded me of Episode 13 of Sagan's Cosmos [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmQUMKys8ts ].

It also reminded me of the book by a fellow who has written on the white Doomsday plane over D.C. on 9/11, the book Dimona: The Third Temple?, and one that attracted me: Gnostic Secrets of the Naassenes: The Initiatory Teachings of the Last Supper.

In the latter, he speaks of "the reversal of flow", the Grail, Kundalini energies, shakti yoga, tantric practices, the double helix of DNA, Jung's Aion, the Ophite bowl, the pleroma, the singularity,the bindu and the chakras.

Interestingly, a recent podcast offered up at Electric Politics features an interview with Ellen Langer, a professor in the Psychology Department at Harvard University. Her books written for general and academic readers include Mindfulness, The Power of Mindful Learning, On Becoming An Artist, and Counterclockwise. [I have read the first two.] http://www.ellenlanger.com/about/

"Thinking conventionally about things distances us from ourselves. Instead, argues Dr. Ellen J. Langer, we could be mindful, alive to possibility. Being mindful — Ellen provides a boatload of empirical evidence for this — will improve our physical well-being, make us happier, and extend our longevity. Her latest book, Counterclockwise, tells the story. You should read it. I also happen to think her ideas have a profound application to politics, though we tread lightly on that question in this conversation. It was a pure delight to talk with Ellen and I learned a great deal. Total runtime an hour and one minute." http://www.electricpolitics.com/podcast/20...cal_monism.html

[David Guyatt]

Reviewing this thread and the contact protocols reminded me of Episode 13 of Sagan's Cosmos [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmQUMKys8ts ].

It also reminded me of the book by a fellow who has written on the white Doomsday plane over D.C. on 9/11, the book Dimona: The Third Temple?, and one that attracted me: Gnostic Secrets of the Naassenes: The Initiatory Teachings of the Last Supper.

In the latter, he speaks of "the reversal of flow", the Grail, Kundalini energies, shakti yoga, tantric practices, the double helix of DNA, Jung's Aion, the Ophite bowl, the pleroma, the singularity,the bindu and the chakras.

Interestingly, a recent podcast offered up at Electric Politics features an interview with Ellen Langer, a professor in the Psychology Department at Harvard University. Her books written for general and academic readers include Mindfulness, The Power of Mindful Learning, On Becoming An Artist, and Counterclockwise. [I have read the first two.] http://www.ellenlanger.com/about/

"Thinking conventionally about things distances us from ourselves. Instead, argues Dr. Ellen J. Langer, we could be mindful, alive to possibility. Being mindful — Ellen provides a boatload of empirical evidence for this — will improve our physical well-being, make us happier, and extend our longevity. Her latest book, Counterclockwise, tells the story. You should read it. I also happen to think her ideas have a profound application to politics, though we tread lightly on that question in this conversation. It was a pure delight to talk with Ellen and I learned a great deal. Total runtime an hour and one minute." http://www.electricpolitics.com/podcast/20...cal_monism.html

I haven't yet looked at the Ellen Langer video Ed, but was impressed by Sagan's piece. It never ceases to amaze me how archetypes manifest themselves across the length and breadth of the planet, coursing up through the unconscious of different cultures and peoples separated by thousands of miles. The Tingit's Raven God being an example. It has so many pulses, from Odin and Wotan, through to Celtic and, of course, is a symbol par excellence for the shadow. In the below link it is amazing to read that in the Hopi and Navajo native American tribes, that the raven was viewed as having flown out of the darkness of the cosmos and brought with it the light of the sun -- the perfect description of the shadow confrontation. I had to smile that in the Tinget legends, those who looked upon the raven would be turned to stone, which captures the Greek Medusa legend to a tee. And, of course, the stone itself is central to alchemy and grail studies.

And, of course, there are some curious reverberations that directly relate to the strange physics discussed in this thread.

[Keith Millea]

David,
Your last link(under physics)seems to not be working.Is it just me?

:dontknow:

[Ed Jewett]

No, it's not just you, and that Ellen Langer video is actually an MP3, so you can take it with you if have one of those.

[David Guyatt]

It was okay when I linked it, but yes it seems not to work now.

[Magda Hassan]

Stanford University Research: Atacama Humanoid Still A Mystery
Steven M. Greer MD
22 April 2013
After six months of research by leading scientists at Stanford University, the Atacama Humanoid remains a profound mystery.
The humanoid was first discovered in 2003 in the remote Atacama desert region of Chile, but I did not learn of the existence of the specimen until 2009, when invited to examine the mummy-like remains of the humanoid in Barcelona Spain. In the summer of 2012, Ramón Navia-Osorio Villar, President of Instituto de Investigaciones y Estudios Exobiológicos graciously permitted our team to do further tests on the humanoid.
We traveled to Barcelona Spain in late September 2012 to obtain detailed X Rays, CAT scans and take genetic samples for testing at Stanford University.
Dr. Garry Nolan (Rachford and Carlota A. Harris Professor in the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Stanford University School of Medicine) headed up the team examining the human-like specimen. He suggested the protocol for taking the DNA samples and, in consultation with Dr. Ralph Lachman, also of Stanford University, suggested precisely which X Rays and CT scan images would be needed for proper evaluation of the skeletal anomalies.

Dr. Lachman, who is a visiting scholar and visiting professor at Stanford University and author of "Radiology of Syndromes, Metabolic Disorders and Skeletal Dysplasias" and is one of the leading experts in the world on skeletal dysplasia and abnormalities, examined the X Rays, CAT scans and photographs of the humanoid.
We obtained excellent DNA material by surgically dissecting the distal ends of two right anterior ribs on the humanoid. These clearly contained bone marrow material, as was seen on the dissecting microscope that was brought in for the procedure. The bone marrow and other material from the skull were obtained under sterile, surgical procedures and placed directly into sterile containers provided by Dr. Nolan.
Using forensic documentation procedures, this evidence was then hand-delivered by me to Dr. Nolan in Washington DC in October, 2012.
Dr. Nolan proceeded to set up a very detailed protocol needed for examining "ancient" or old DNA. This is a highly specialized area of research and the leading scientists in the world with expertise in this area consulted with Dr. Nolan in this endeavor.
The Atacama Humanoid is a 13 centimeter, or 6 inch, body that is very desiccated but completely intact. The CAT scan clearly shows internal chest organs (lungs and what appears to be the remains of a heart structure).(See CAT scan here) There is absolutely no doubt that the specimen is an actual organism and that it is not a hoax of any kind. This fact has been confirmed by Dr. Nolan and Dr. Lachman at Stanford.
The specimen has only 10 ribs, a finding not yet found in humans, and a very unusual cranium. It is noted that the cranial vault is, proportionally, much larger than is found in normal humans. The bones are quite well developed and are not those of a fetus (see below). There are multiple skeletal anomalies seen throughout the specimen. Importantly a mature, not fetal, tooth is seen in the mandible (jaw bone) A fracture of the right humerus (upper arm) is seen as is a concave fracture of the right posterior-lateral skull, which was most likely the cause of death.
Human fetus (2 months)

Atacama Humanoid

Importantly, Dr. Lachman has concluded that the humanoid's appearance is NOT the result of any known deformity, genetic defect, skeletal dysplasia or any other known human abnormality. However, the most startling conclusion to date is that Dr. Lachman concluded the humanoid lived to be 6- 8 years of age. (See Dr. Lachman's full report here…). This was assessed by examining the epiphyseal plates in the knees and comparing these to normal humans of various ages.
Human Knee, 1 Month

Human Knee, 6 Years











He noted that there is no known form of human dwarfism that has this presentation and set of findings. No human has been known to be able to live for 6-8 years and remain only 6 inches in length.
It should be noted also that Dr. Manchon, of the Manchon Radiology Center in Barcelona, also examined the X Rays and concluded that the specimen was most certainly not a fetus and had lived for a year or more and probably several years.
Previously, there had been false reports published elsewhere that the humanoid was a fetus.
This is clearly not the case as can be concluded from the research of Dr. Lachman and the examination by Dr. Manchon. A comparison of fetus X Rays shows a remarkable difference between human fetus skeletal development and the X Rays of the Atacama humanoid.
Human Newborn

Human Fetus

Atacama Humanoid


Painstaking and expert DNA extraction was done by Dr. Nolan at Stanford University. A very high quality and quantity of DNA was successfully extracted and analyzed.
Only preliminary analysis of the DNA has been done to date, and Dr. Nolan notes that it may be a year or more before full manual analysis and confirmation can occur.
Dr. Nolan notes: "The DNA was of high quality, showing little to no serious degradation."
Dr. Nolan also notes that: "Sequence analysis definitively rules out the specimen as an example of a New World primate."
Importantly, Dr. Nolan has found that: "Preliminary results demonstrate no statistically relevant alterations of genes encoding proteins commonly associated with known genes for primordial dwarfism or other forms of dwarfism. Therefore, if there is a genetic basis for the symptoms observed in the specimen the casual mutation(s) are not apparent at this level of resolution and at this stage of the analysis."
It should be noted that Neanderthals are 99.5% genetically identical to humans, and chimps and apes are 96-97% identical.
As of this date, the genotype does not seem to match the phenotype (meaning physically expressed form of the genetics).
The answer to this mystery will lead in further analysis of the DNA and confirmation of the findings through the peer review process.
Dr. Nolan's report (see full preliminary comments here NOTE: DNA testing continues and is not complete) concludes by stating further research is needed:

"This preliminary report demonstrates how currently available biomedical technologies can be readily applied to the analysis of archeologically and anthropologically relevant human specimens with genetic disorders of unknown origin. This report is not a formal conclusion on the nature of the mutations or the underlying cause of the disorder in this human specimen. Currently the data represents (conservatively) a 15 fold whole genome reading and as such is insufficient for definitive conclusions. Future plans include continued study of this specimen to establish up to a 50 fold WHS read that could point to targeted sequencing of hypothetical causal mutations. Comparison of the observed sequence variations against recently developed ethnically focused genome databases is planned. Full analysis of the DNA, and attempts to link genetics to morphology, will eventually follow in an appropriately peer-reviewed article in an accredited scientific journal. The results will be independently verified before publication."

Clinically, given that this humanoid lived many decades to centuries ago (exact date remains unknown but it is not a recently living specimen) it is hard to understand how a 6 inch baby or child could have lived to be 6-8 years of age in such a remote and undeveloped part of the world. Even in today's best Neonatal Intensive Care Unit (NICU) we would hardly be able to keep such a specimen alive. As an emergency physician, I have delivered premature infants, as well as a significantly deformed one with anencephaly, and am struck by how small and fragile this humanoid is. Medically speaking, IF this is merely a deformed human, it does not seem feasible that it would have lived to be 6-8 years of age. Speaking as a clinician, I, as well as other doctors with whom I have spoken, doubt it would have lived 6 hours. It should also be noted that the specimen has a visible, well-developed tooth in the mandible, also not consistent with a human fetus of this size.
Given how long ago he lived and how primitive that area would have been- totally lacking in modern medical technologies and facilities- how would this child have lived? And with whom? Certainly there are many more questions than answers at this juncture.
The mystery is further compounded by the reports from Ramon Navia-Osorio Villar and his associates who traveled to the region and obtained information from local native peoples of sightings of UFOs and very small living creatures fitting the general description of this humanoid. There are also reports that other intact humanoids may be stored in various remote sites and locations. These reports have not been confirmed, however.
It is necessary to do much more thorough research into this case. The DNA work is really in its early stages, and we need to take a scientific expedition to the Atacama desert to see if there are more examples of this humanoid- and to see if indeed there is on-going UFO/ ET activity in that region as reported.

HYPOTHESIS AND THOUGHTS

If the genetics continue to show a human connection to this humanoid, what does this mean? We cannot say the Atacama Humanoid is an ET. Nor is he any known or clinically conceivable human that could have lived. So who is he? He remains a mystery, and perhaps- just perhaps- a doorway to discovering much about who we are.
Recently, some scientists (see here) working on DNA and computer analysis found that DNA has been around for over 10 billion years- but Earth has been here for less than half that time. Perhaps life is indeed universal, and contact spreads life from world to world…
I have discussed with other scientists the possibility of epigenetic augmentation of the human genome. Is the Atacama Humanoid a so-called hybrid? Are we all some type of hybrid? Could this have occurred via contact with other extraterrestrial civilizations over millions of years? A source who refuses to be identified stated to me several years ago that he had seen a National Security Agency document that concluded that there had been 64 epigenetic augmentations of the human genome in the past that have resulted in modern humans. Could this be possible?
A Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) scientist once told me that the reason the objects found on and near Mars like the obelisks that Astronaut Buzz Aldrin wants us to go back to Mars to examine- would show an ancient connection between ETs and humans- and that this is why that information is being kept classified. When I asked why, he said "Because the foundations of every fundamentalist orthodox belief system on earth would be up-ended".
To pursue science is to pursue the truth of matters. What is needed from this point going forward is an open mind so that, together, we may discover the truth about many things yet hidden.
Click here for Dr. Steven Greer's full report on the being in PDF form.


NOTE:
The DNA research on the specimen is in it's very early stages and incomplete. Much research remains. There is a paradox between initial DNA tests, which are largely computerized data bases, and the clinical findings in X Rays and CAT scans, and Dr. Lachman's conclusion that the specimen is 6 years of age and only 6 inches in length. To date, the DNA data cannot explain these perplexing findings. While human-like, it continues to represent an undefined specimen and a least a year of further genetic analysis will be needed by DNA experts. The un-matched DNA (approximately 2 million base pairs of DNA that are un-matched) will need to be carefully explored, and to date this has not been accomplished.
-Dr. Greer
Click here for Dr. Garry Nolan's preliminary comments NOTE: DNA TESTING CONTINUES AND IS NOT COMPLETE.
Click here for the radiographic evaluation report by Dr. Ralph Lachman.

Pictures

X-Rays

CAT Scan

- See more at: http://siriusdisclosure.com/evidence/ata...kbAZq.dpuf

[Jan Klimkowski]

Magda - fascinating.

I hope this isn't a hoax.

The mystery is further compounded by the reports from Ramon Navia-Osorio Villar and his associates who traveled to the region and obtained information from local native peoples of sightings of UFOs and very small living creatures fitting the general description of this humanoid. There are also reports that other intact humanoids may be stored in various remote sites and locations. These reports have not been confirmed, however.

There are similar legends amongst some of the people who live in the cloud forest and high valleys of the Andes mountains, which are of course close to the Atacama desert and similary sparsely populated.

[David Guyatt]

I remain very sceptical 0f Greer and his agenda.

For background on a race of very small dwarves - Homo Floriensis, also called the Hobbit dwarf, a now extinct species in the genus Homo, read HERE.

Meanwhile, Greer's mystery has, apparently, been solved below:

Bizarre 6-Inch Skeleton Shown to Be Human

by Richard Stone on 3 May 2013, 6:40 PM | 119 Comments

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Otherworldly? X-rays show that Ata is no hoax, but its DNA will disappoint UFO buffs.
Credit: Courtesy of Garry Nolan

Alien? Subhuman primate? Deformed child? Mummified fetus? The Internet is buzzing over the nature of "Ata," a bizarre 6-inch-long skeleton featured in a new documentary on UFOs. A Stanford University scientist who boldly entered the fray has now put to rest doubts about what species Ata belongs to. But the mystery is not over.
The story began 10 years ago, when the diminutive remains were reportedly found in a pouch in a ghost town in the Atacama Desert of Chile. Ata ended up in a private collection in Barcelona; producers of the film Sirius latched onto the bizarre mummy as evidence of alien life.
Last fall, immunologist Garry Nolan, director of the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute's Proteomics Center for Systems Immunology at Stanford in California, heard about Ata from a friend and contacted the filmmakers, offering to give them a scientific readout on the specimen. They asked him to give it a shot.
Among the apparent abnormalities, Ata sports 10 ribs instead of the usual 12 and a severely misshapen skull. "I asked our neonatal care unit how you would go about analyzing it. Had they seen this kind of syndrome before?" Nolan says. He was directed to pediatric radiologist Ralph Lachman, co-director of the International Skeletal Dysplasia Registry at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, California. "He literally wrote the book on pediatric bone disorders," Nolan says. Lachman was blown away, Nolan recalls: "He said, 'Wow, this is like nothing I've ever seen before.' "
To study the specimen, Nolan sought clues in Ata's genome. He initially presumed the specimen was tens or hundreds of thousands of years oldthe Atacama Desert may be the driest spot on the planet, so Ata could have been preserved for eons. He consulted experts who had extracted DNA from bones of the Denisovans, an Asian relative of European Stone Age Neandertals. It turned out that their protocols weren't necessary. "The DNA was modern, abundant, and high quality," he says, indicating that the specimen is probably a few decades old.
To the chagrin of UFO hunters, Ata is decidedly of this world. After mapping more than 500 million reads to a reference human genome, equating to 17.7-fold coverage of the genome, Nolan concluded that Ata "is human, there's no doubt about it." Moreover, the specimen's B2 haplotypea category of mitochondrial DNAreveals that its mother was from the west coast of South America: Chile, that is.
Meanwhile, after examining x-rays, Lachman concluded that Aka's skeletal development, based on the density of the epiphyseal plates of the knees (growth plates at the end of long bones found only in children), surprisingly appears to be equivalent to that of a 6- to 8-year-old child. If that holds up, there are two possibilities, Nolan says. One, a long shot, is that Ata had a severe form of dwarfism, was actually born as a tiny human, and lived until that calendar age. To test that hypothesis, he will try to extract hemoglobin from the specimen's bone marrow and compare the relative amounts of fetal versus adult hemoglobin proteins. The second possibility is that Ata, the size of a 22-week-old fetus, suffered from a severe form of a rare rapid aging disease, progeria, and died in the womb or after premature birth.
Nolan hasn't yet turned up hits for genes known to be associated with progeria or dwarfism. He's stepping up the search for mutations through additional sequencing and casting a wider net. Another possibility is a teratogen: a birth defect-inducing toxicant along the lines of thalidomide. Nolan plans to analyze tissue using mass spectrometry to look for toxicants or metabolites. But reports of a handful of other Tom Thumb-sized skeletons from Russia and elsewhere have Nolan leaning toward a genetic explanation.
At least one expert has a more prosaic takebut agrees that the specimen is human. "This looks to me like a badly desiccated and mummified human fetus or premature stillbirth," says William Jungers, a paleoanthropologist and anatomist at Stony Brook University Medical Center in New York. He notes that "barely ossified and immature elements" of the hands and feet, and the wide open metopic suture, where the two frontal bones of the skull come together down the middle of the forehead. "Genetic anomalies are not evident, probably because there aren't any," he says. Nolan responds that the rib number and epiphyseal plate densities remain a riddle; while he is open to the fetus hypothesis, he thinks that the jury is still out.
Nolan's analysis went viral this week; besieged as he has been by the media circus, he doesn't regret having gotten involved in debunking a claim of alien life. "I'm thrilled with the outcome," he says. Once the analyses are complete, he says, he'll submit his findings for peer review. The other claim Nolan debunks is that Ata is an elaborate hoax. The x-rays clearly show these are real bones, complete with arterial shadows, he says. "You just couldn't fake it," he says, adding, with a laugh, "unless you were an alien."