The Splintering Frame

[Stan Wilbourne]

Charles, I am not familiar with "The Mind Parasites." I just checked it out on Amazon and found a PDF copy online. Are you recommending it?

Keith,

I'm not at all certain thought is infinite. It continually loops, based on a modified past of an imagined invention, but infinite? That doesn't appear to be so.

No separation between the thinker and thought. Yes. The thinker is thought. One thing. The thinker is the invention of thought, and this invention then moves to secure itself (an imagined state) in a pattern (time) of its own making. The movement of the thinker is suffering, dividing itself into patterns.

The door to the infinite is also the door to destruction: the ending of the thinker. Which I feel may be the ending of the frame. No-thingness.

I live in beautiful spot just to the south of Seattle. I go out in the woods each day for a walk. The other day I was walking alone through these tall, gorgeous trees, the path on fire with bright green, watching the movement of "my" mind. I could hear the ground crunch beneath my feet, see the blue sky above and feel the silence where I walked. I was also aware of this thing, the thinker, and the extraordinary attention the mind gives to it. Everything else, moving in the background of "me," the thinker.

And, I wondered: Why is so much attention given to the frame of me? Can this pattern end? What would happen to being if this pattern/frame/thinker were to dissolve? Is that a possibility?

But, we are lulled into sleep to not even question any of this.

Perception pushes this. But, it sure as hell pushes back.

[Phil Dragoo]

Stan

The intrusion: a quiet interrupted by rude sounds--hah! My own footsteps!

Is the empty mirror a metaphor

Cavorting before it

the mind can make the

(thinker)

old/young male/female beautiful/ugly

Agreed that John F. Kennedy sought the improvement of all with cheap energy and quality of life necessities

This would remove the cattle-prods of the cabal, the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

The Martyrdom of John F. Kennedy is an object lesson for the subjects of this cabal

Because you do not hope

--oh, that line:

Ha! Hotel California:

We're all just prisoners of our own device

So,

I see your "destruction"

but

raise you

"freedom"

Now, I understand Krishnamurti clarified that that's only available in the pre-thought model

Okay, okay, we've all got to give a little to get a little

. . .and the stars. . .

(laughing)

[Stan Wilbourne]

Phil, Alan Watts?

But, the playground's now on fire, and we've reached critical mass. The bell's rang, and recess is over.

And now the music divides
Us into tribes
You grew your hair so I grew mine
You said the past won't rest
Until we jump the fence
And leave it behind

In the suburbs
I learned to drive
And you told me we would never survive
So grab your mother's keys we leave tonight


Beyond the fence/frame?

"Where I go, you cannot follow."

The self/frame/thinker will never touch the infinite. The dissolution of it, opens being. Pre-thought. Post-thought. It's all rock n roll to me.

[Magda Hassan]

Does the thinker create thought? Or, does thought create the thinker?

It is said that thought forms are infinite in nature.It is also said that the thinker is part of the infinite collective unconscious.It would seem then,that thought and the thinker,are both equal physical manifestations of each other within an infinite framework.Can one be without the other????

I think therefore I am.....Who am I?

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.

[Magda Hassan]

[Charles Drago]

Charles, I am not familiar with "The Mind Parasites." I just checked it out on Amazon and found a PDF copy online. Are you recommending it?

Highly.

It is science fiction that is directly relevant to your insight regarding the effort to "harvest some energy derived from human suffering[.]"

[Phil Dragoo]

Silenced by the shot to his throat

thought stilled by the transit from temple to occiput

the cabal nails its theses to the cathedral door



Do not hope



We

here take that as a slap

a stab

boot on our face forever hey what's for dinner



Of all the parallax strobing of all the new surreal

the movietone popcorn banter that's the cruellest



Okay recap he said on earth blah blah God's (cap it) work must truly blah blah

so where'd all this dualism come in

I recall at eight the Baptist counsellor Kenny in Apache cabin told us we'd burn in hell or Hell, forever

unless we knew Jesus or something Jesus and frankly awkward

Later ahem defer to experts the mechanics of the soul the auditors of the conscience

and a ladle of conscious guilt for you and you and you



No stained glass bureaucrat "made" the stars

Bach the best of the hardware but the software required dissolution

Lou Reed and that, of course a big laugh at all the fuss, but walk on down the hall

Beetles' psychedelic callback, but broadville slapstick withers

and that teacup overflows


Not much separates "us" from "infinity"

quotes and prepositions

subjects and predicates



He wanted everyone to be safe and warm

and they want everyone on the run

(indigenous tribes of Thy Will beset by helicopters in endless Avatar/Apocalypse Now angst)



Simple meditation produces wonderful nothingness

but needing and bleeding takes up most of our time



After the concert what is unplugged, packed, loaded on trucks, rolling on the road



See the cat
See the cradle

[Rob Caprio]

Rob - it's simple.

Professional snipers were not told to create pretty Masonic patterns in the corpse of JFK.

They were tasked with killing a VIP target travelling in a moving car in a public place.

Your Hiram Abif bullshit is a straw man, which delegitimises serious research into, for instance, possible involvement of SMOM elements in the Kennedy hit.

First of all, It is not "my" research as you say but rather the work of others. All I was attempting to do was show the work others have done over the years. If you don't agree with it that is fine, but I find it to be dangerous for you and others to decide for other people what to believe by calling this garbage and other names.

It most certainly could be a coincidence that both JFK and Abif suffered the same location wounds, but then again it may not be.

Let's just leave it at that.

[Rob Caprio]

I'd tend to believe the shots were based on the best vantage points for a covert kill.

I agree with this statement, but what position gave the shooter a straight on head shot?

[Rob Caprio]

I'd tend to believe the shots were based on the best vantage points for a covert kill.

I agree with this statement, but what position gave the shooter a straight on head shot?

^^ If Connally was an intended target, and these shooters were as amazing as you say they were, then the Governor should have been dead.

My post simply showed the investigation was so poor the WC was not 100 percent sure that he wasn't the target. That wasmy only point.

JBC could have been shot just to move him out of the way too. Perhaps he was blocking a shot to JFK 's head from the front. Just a thought.