The Splintering Frame

[Magda Hassan]

Rob - it's simple.

Professional snipers were not told to create pretty Masonic patterns in the corpse of JFK.

They were tasked with killing a VIP target travelling in a moving car in a public place.

Your Hiram Abif bullshit is a straw man, which delegitimises serious research into, for instance, possible involvement of SMOM elements in the Kennedy hit.

First of all, It is not "my" research as you say but rather the work of others. All I was attempting to do was show the work others have done over the years. If you don't agree with it that is fine, but I find it to be dangerous for you and others to decide for other people what to believe by calling this garbage and other names.

It most certainly could be a coincidence that both JFK and Abif suffered the same location wounds, but then again it may not be.

Let's just leave it at that.

Rob, some other people have done 'research' and decided the evidence shows it was Jacky Kennedy who shot and killed her husband. We don't have their 'research' here either.
It most certainly is a coincidence that both JFK and Abif received wounds in similar places. It is also a coincidence that Aldous Huxley and C.S. Lewis died the same day. They weren't part of the plot either.

[David Healy]

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If you don't agree with it that is fine, but I find it to be dangerous for you and others to decide for other people what to believe by calling this garbage and other names.

...

appears you have a bit of intellectual pride (one thinking you have to teach here) I find it down-right rude... reminds me of Von Pein. There are NO .john acolytes here that I know of.

[Phil Dragoo]

At 89 above Rob Caprio responds to Albert Doyle:

Originally Posted by Albert Doyle I'd tend to believe the shots were based on the best vantage points for a covert kill.

Response from Rob Caprio

I agree with this statement, but what position gave the shooter a straight on head shot?

Phil's footnote:

Sherry Fiester, Enemy of the Truth, posits JFK's head turned beyond profile in relation to Zapruder's position at Z-312

When this rotation is positioned in the limousine on Elm at that point

a vector of the possible trajectory aligning a right temple entry (seen by Thom Robinson and others, probably Malcolm Perry included)

to an avulsive wound of two to three inches diameter in the right occipitoparietal (seen by eighty-one per Groden's count)

the South Knoll is indicated

I suggest this was surveyed and selected and used by a highly-skilled sniper with the very best weapon, scope and silencer/suppressor

that this shooter made the throat shot at Z-225 per the analysis of Anthony DeFiore posted on this section of the forum

and subsequently the aforementioned temple entry

Two devastating wounds, the latter a coup de grace

I view the selection of a public setting with the target the focus of a local throng and a national press to be intentional and

in keeping with what Charles describes as his and George Michael Evica's conclusion that it was "a dramatic construct"

Its thematic thrust is to kill hope and repress the spirit, stoke the fires of war, abase the sensitivities

That it is a brazen lie continually ground into our human face with the Orwellian boot of totalitarianism is part of the intention

As for the myriad "theories"--all that is by way of the fog machine to obscure the naked power exercised

Certainly O'Brien explained much of this to Winston Smith in 1949/1984

In sum, controlling history to amass power

O'Brien cites the superiority of Big Brother and the Inner Party as eschewing the various ideologies of other totalitarian systems

And again, Charles and George Michael Evica, L. Fletcher Prouty, Peter Dale Scott and others view a cabal above national, religious, partisan differences

This is the splintering frame thread, and the wound track in the martyred president ought to be viewed as a gateway to enlightenment

I wouldn't presume for worlds to discuss the nature of this,

other than to suggest, as we've been advised,

the Zen which can be named

is not the true Zen

the true Zen

would

fall through a hole in Country Joe's flag

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[Jim Hackett II]

Quote our bard Dragoo,

"In sum, controlling history to amass power

O'Brien cites the superiority of Big Brother and the Inner Party as eschewing the various ideologies of other totalitarian systems

And again, Charles and George Michael Evica, L. Fletcher Prouty, Peter Dale Scott and others view a cabal above national, religious, partisan differences

This is the splintering frame thread, and the wound track in the martyred president ought to be viewed as a gateway to enlightenment

I wouldn't presume for worlds to discuss the nature of this,

other than to suggest, as we've been advised,

the Zen which can be named

is not the true Zen

the true Zen

would

fall through a hole in Country Joe's flag"
[End Quote from Mr. Dragoo]


Gimme an "F"......
What's that spell .... FABLE...
Come on all you strong young men,
Uncle Sam needs your help again,
Got himself in a terrible jam
way down yonder in ???????

You fill in the blank citizen. It would be you and your children to pay the price for Nixon's "law and order" and that unending war of empire.
Same today....

Fables proliferate, truth can be found.
But first the citizen has to learn to think for one's self.

Fables for Dallas 1963, For LA and Memphis 1968...
Fables for Vietnam/Laos/Cambodia ... for Iraq 1.... for Iraq2 ...
Fables for Grenada while body parts of Navy and Marine personnel rotted in the sun
while the ATF and FBI flew to Lebanon. ONI was already there....
Fabled hero asshole RReagan for all his bluster punked out for FABLE.
He withdrew from Lebanon as a PUNK.
Fables for 9-11...
Fables for you and for me.

On the song goes.
And the song remains the same.....

Until the citizen begins to do their own thinking
and UNPLUG from the Fables making machines.
FWIW...
Jim

[Albert Doyle]

A Plaza has many rooms. I know not from which chamber John was struck...

[Stan Wilbourne]

This is the splintering frame thread, and the wound track in the martyred president ought to be viewed as a gateway to enlightenment

I wouldn't presume for worlds to discuss the nature of this,

other than to suggest, as we've been advised,

the Zen which can be named

is not the true Zen

the true Zen

would

fall through a hole in Country Joe's flag

Thank you, Phil. For it all.

I said to my soul, be still, and wait without hope
For hope would be hope for the wrong thing; wait without love
For love would be love of the wrong thing; there is yet faith
But the faith and the love and the hope are all in the waiting
Wait without thought, for you are not ready for thought:
So the darkness shall be the light, and the stillness the dancing
Whisper of running streams, and winter lightning
The wild thyme unseen and the wild strawberry
The laughter in the garden, echoed ecstasy
Not lost, but requiring, pointing to the agony
Of death and birth

[David Josephs]

If what we see is NOT what occurred... how valid are Sherry's conclusions?

It is a proven fact that a number of frames were removed between 302-304 and from 312-318...
207-212 as well... another critical moment in the film...
132-133.. the entire turn sequence removed
156-158.. yet another SHOT removed... (look at Hickey)

If the blood splatter was REAL instead of painted in and/or removed entirely... I am not sure if anything changes about the source of "A" shot being the South Knoll or South end of the overpass...

Below is an illustration of Sherry's conclusion on the direction and angle of JFK's head at the time of a/the headshot... Z313 supposedly.

A south shot needs to deal with the windshield, the occupants and the distance...
Witnesses tell us of a horrible wound over the LEFT eye...
Altgens tells us of seeing exit debris from the LEFT side

Brain and bone is blown BACKWARD from North to South...
There were bullet marks yet no debris seen to fly or move South to North in the direction of the Newmans.

Burkely hints of proof about more than one shooter... the BRAIN is the only thing that conclusively tell such a thing... channels in two or more directions... microscopic tell-tale signs of direction...

Item #9, the brain slides et al... goes the way of the windshield scrappings and Kleins microfilm... Gone in the Wind....

Add back the original scene and I BELIEVE the back of the head is removed via a shot from the right front that went in small... and came out large... the major fragments Humes removed in the presence of many
may have been from a bullet that fragments, mushrooms, explodes and leaves a trail of mist and particles... NOT a FMJ. There was not enough bullet left (in the limo of in his head) to account for a full bullet.

and finally - Robinson did NOT see a bullet wound in the back...

Robinson:
I saw the body turned over, it was turned over and examined on its side, rolled from each side. I saw nothing down below where the doctors had been working on the head.
Purdy:
Did you see anything between the head wounds and the. . . on the back that could have been a wound?
Robinson:
No.
.....
It might have done that, there was - . . b[B]ut the back itself, there was no wound there, no.[/B]


So... was JFK shot from behind, at all??

DJ


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At 89 above Rob Caprio responds to Albert Doyle:

Originally Posted by Albert Doyle I'd tend to believe the shots were based on the best vantage points for a covert kill.

Response from Rob Caprio

I agree with this statement, but what position gave the shooter a straight on head shot?

Phil's footnote:

Sherry Fiester, Enemy of the Truth, posits JFK's head turned beyond profile in relation to Zapruder's position at Z-312

When this rotation is positioned in the limousine on Elm at that point

a vector of the possible trajectory aligning a right temple entry (seen by Thom Robinson and others, probably Malcolm Perry included)

to an avulsive wound of two to three inches diameter in the right occipitoparietal (seen by eighty-one per Groden's count)

the South Knoll is indicated

I suggest this was surveyed and selected and used by a highly-skilled sniper with the very best weapon, scope and silencer/suppressor

that this shooter made the throat shot at Z-225 per the analysis of Anthony DeFiore posted on this section of the forum

and subsequently the aforementioned temple entry

Two devastating wounds, the latter a coup de grace

I view the selection of a public setting with the target the focus of a local throng and a national press to be intentional and

in keeping with what Charles describes as his and George Michael Evica's conclusion that it was "a dramatic construct"

Its thematic thrust is to kill hope and repress the spirit, stoke the fires of war, abase the sensitivities

That it is a brazen lie continually ground into our human face with the Orwellian boot of totalitarianism is part of the intention

As for the myriad "theories"--all that is by way of the fog machine to obscure the naked power exercised

Certainly O'Brien explained much of this to Winston Smith in 1949/1984

In sum, controlling history to amass power

O'Brien cites the superiority of Big Brother and the Inner Party as eschewing the various ideologies of other totalitarian systems

And again, Charles and George Michael Evica, L. Fletcher Prouty, Peter Dale Scott and others view a cabal above national, religious, partisan differences

This is the splintering frame thread, and the wound track in the martyred president ought to be viewed as a gateway to enlightenment

I wouldn't presume for worlds to discuss the nature of this,

other than to suggest, as we've been advised,

the Zen which can be named

is not the true Zen

the true Zen

would

fall through a hole in Country Joe's flag

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[Rob Caprio]

Rob - it's simple.Professional snipers were not told to create pretty Masonic patterns in the corpse of JFK.They were tasked with killing a VIP target travelling in a moving car in a public place.Your Hiram Abif bullshit is a straw man, which delegitimises serious research into, for instance, possible involvement of SMOM elements in the Kennedy hit.

First of all, It is not "my" research as you say but rather the work of others. All I was attempting to do was show the work others have done over the years. If you don't agree with it that is fine, but I find it to be dangerous for you and others to decide for other people what to believe by calling this garbage and other names. It most certainly could be a coincidence that both JFK and Abif suffered the same location wounds, but then again it may not be. Let's just leave it at that.

Rob, some other people have done 'research' and decided the evidence shows it was Jacky Kennedy who shot and killed her husband. We don't have their 'research' here either. It most certainly is a coincidence that both JFK and Abif received wounds in similar places. It is also a coincidence that Aldous Huxley and C.S. Lewis died the same day. They weren't part of the plot either.

I have studied this for a long time and your comparison regarding Jackie is not even in the same ballpark. We know based on the evidence Jackie had nothing to do with it, but we don't know that about the Masons. Look at how many were involved in the investigation and with the WC. I find it very interesting the way you folks seem reluctant to consider this. That is fine, but you shouldn't make blanket statements diregarding them.The JFK assassination ties into many bigger things and to act like this does not possibly include them is just wrong to me.

[Rob Caprio]

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If you don't agree with it that is fine, but I find it to be dangerous for you and others to decide for other people what to believe by calling this garbage and other names.

...

appears you have a bit of intellectual pride (one thinking you have to teach here) I find it down-right rude... reminds me of Von Pein. There are NO .john acolytes here that I know of.

I have no idea what you are talking about as usual. You make no sense as I speak of conspiracy and you keep claiming I am a WC defender. What gives? I invite people to read my posts and your posts to see who is more like the McAdams type.

Your constant attacks speak very loud. You fit right in on ACJ.

[Charles Drago]

I owe you an apology, Mr. Caprio.

All along you've been much closer to the truth that I would have suspected.

But you made one terrible mistake.

It wasn't the Masons.

It was The Carpenters.