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The state of DPF
#21
I'm not familiar with the whole history of DPF and the relationship between its members, but I hope we can all keep in mind that this forum is not about us and our petty egos, personal agendas and hurt feelings. This is about discussing issues that truly matter to the whole human race, and hopefully educating others who stumble across our posts through Google or wherever. We have to offer an alternative to the corporate media.

Our most basic common link is that we all inhabit this planet.
We all breathe the same air.
We all cherish our children's future.
And we are all mortal.
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#22
Cheers::runaround:::Hooray:::rockon::
Here's to that Tracy! Many thanks!
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#23
Galileo, eh, Greg.

Even fairly obscure baiting is no longer welcome here anymore.

A fair warning was given.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#24
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The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#25
DPF Administrators,

You are hereby notified to remove any and ALL of the Rich DellaRosa JFKresearch Archive files IMMEDIATELY from your servers. You will receive a formal demand by email shortly.

The spirit of Free Speech that Rich so cherished and that we fought to safeguard has been compromised.

Greg Burnham
Sgt-at-arms
JFKresearch Assassination Forum
GO_SECURE

monk


"It is difficult to abolish prejudice in those bereft of ideas. The more hatred is superficial, the more it runs deep."

James Hepburn -- Farewell America (1968)
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#26
Has Jan stopped posting as a form of protest at Charles' 'retirement'?

A huge loss for the forum if that is the case.
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#27
No Danny Jan's absence is not because of Charles retirement. As I said he is taking a well deserved break.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#28
Thanks for the clarification.
Well deserved indeed, you have all done a great job in running the best forum on the web. :Thrasher:
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#29
Magda Hassan Wrote:David and Dawn are still posting. Jan is taking a break.

I expect there may be some new members or returning members as well.

I have been under the weather all weekend. But I have not left DPF. However I did consider it as I too am so tired of the rancor.
I am heart broken at this turn of events.
The co-owners/founders of DPF are like family to me. All of them.
After we were hacked I had thought we reached a new plateau where
bygones were truly that. However I have come to realize that when certain lines are crossed and too much anger is expressed- on both sides- there is no going back.
So please everyone watch what you say to others. Especially loved ones. Some damage is not able to be fixed.
And that is where we are here.
I am on record as saying that this particular "infraction" of Charlie's did not cross that line so was not deserving of these consequences.
My other co-founders disagree. Please realize that a lot of joint email has been exchanged over a long period of time for these communication breakdowns to
occur. I have had my times where I believed CD truly crossed the line. That said, he and I who have spent decades in the trenches of the JFK assassination research community
have been at the mercy of REAL agents. Smooth operators who pose as true researchers. They were there from the start. To divide, plant disinformation, cause factions.
Many are highly skilled in this regard. Charlie and I have had many a conversation about this, and our ability to see through a lot of them. When others could not. This IS a war.
With the killers of truth. It is way beyond the death of JFK. That was one horrible incident. But anyone who believes it ended there is beyond naive.
So the divisions in the community served their masters well. Divide and conquer is an MO as old as life itself. As Jan once put it one must make his or her case. However even that can be dangerous and often one must
discuss these matters quietly not on a public forum where one is at risk of greater harm. Mary Ferrell is a great example. Only after she died did I begin to post the truth I knew about her. Alive she was too powerful a foe. Take heed folks,
there are many more like her. Practice discernment.
DPF celebrated its five year anniversary last week. 9/25/08 was our start.
So to see it come to this now makes me weep.
"Nobody's right, everybody's wrong".
Dawn
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#30
Firstly, comments have been made about the reasons for my absence. Those comments were not authorised by me.

I speak for myself.

Noone else speaks for me.

Secondly, I have just read the past few days' posts and surveyed the state of DPF.

In my heart, and in my soul, I feel dismay and sadness.

Thirdly, I read this.

David Guyatt Wrote:Speaking legally, Magda remains the sole owner of this forum by virtue of the aforesaid transference, and this was demonstrated when Myra tried to capture and take control of the forum - but was seen off after the proper parties had been approached. Each of the founders have also, at different times, donated money to help defray the running costs of the forum.

Also, speaking legally, Magda as the sole owner, may do with the forum as she pleases, including closing it, rolling it up in a native American pipe and smoking it, or seeing it grow and flourish. She is the owner. Absolutely. And I support her absolutely. She is a safe pair of hands.

As for the rest of we founding members, we are just that. Founding members. We have no legal title whatsoever. No rights. Nor for that matter, do any members, who are either welcomed here or not - as each case permits.

Which I categorise as a gross misrepresentation of our founding principles.

I have the greatest respect for my fellow founders, with all our faults and idiosyncracies. All our sins.

However, our agreement was that the founders must vote on all significant decisions, with the majority having sway.

At no stage did we vest power in one founder only.

We did not agree to a structure of dictatorship.

One of the great privileges of my life is to know Magda Hassan. She has fought, fought, fascism and dictatorship all her life.

Magda continues to fight oppression and evil and bullying.

If I were to submit to a dictatorship, Magda would be my favourite dictator.

But I will never submit to such, and I want no part of a DPF that has even a whiff of a dictatorial structure.

While, like a ghastly rapid river,
Through the pale door
A hideous throng rush out forever
And laugh but smile no more.

"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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