Program Transcript: Bill Simpich

[Alan Dale]

http://www.jfkessentials.com/forum/index...opic=235.0

Complete transcript of my conversation with Bill Simpich, author of State Secret: Wiretapping in Mexico City, Double Agents, and the Framing of Lee Oswald.
https://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.p...et_Preface

[Peter Lemkin]

A very good and important interview with a very good and important researcher. The people he points towards [if not at] in Miami and JM/WAVE (and JM/WAVE connected all around the World) have long, long been on the top of my list of suspects. This is only bolstered by most [not all] of them moving en masse to Vietnam and SEA not that long after the assassination. Morales was a key man in the operation, as was Harvey. Shackley MUST have known what was happening, if not directly involved [as I believe he was]. This 'crew' IMHO went on to kill many of the problematic witnesses and players, as well as RFK and others. I believe they also played a role [along with others in the FBI and MI] in the MLK assassination - although their role in that was less direct and more in allowing some of their assets to be used. The puzzle pieces have been there all along. Simpich's view of Mexico City only puts some glue on those pieces others have more tentatively placed by others. I'd only disagree with ONE thing Simpich says - and that is his suggestion to not use the term 'conspiracy'. If this was not a conspiracy, then I don't know what is. I know the Public have been propagandized to recoil from the term...but we are not going to get our Country back, IMO, unless we unflinching use that term and defeat the programming given to many that that is a term used only by the cognitively unhindged. While a smaller group may have planned the assassination, a larger group carried it out, and an absolutely huge group covered it up - and do to this day. We lost America* when we lost JFK - and we will NOT get it back until and unless we get it made clear to most thinking and caring Americans [a shrinking group, I grant you] what happened, who did it and why...and that they are still the GIANT tick/leech sucking the lifeblood out of the body politic/economic of the Country and the Planet! ::prison::

*I'm not so naive to think that we the People were in control before the Assassination - but what little power we had [politically, economically, and our rights] were soon stripped away - to the point now where we are a police state masquerading as a democracy; a neo-fascist state parading as a constitutional republic; an oligarchy pretending with propaganda and lies/myths to be a representational democracy.

[Drew Phipps]

He has a very good handle on what might have been going on at the CIA (a mole hunt) using Oswald's file as disinformation to spot the mole. And it is very interesting that the anonymous "construction man" who gave DPD the initial description of the shooter (broadcast at 12:45 PM, before Mr. Brennan talks to Agent Sorrells) used the very bits of dis-information Mr. Simpich suggests was planted in Oswald's file. Does that mean that Angleton's mole hunt worked? Or does it mean that the mole hunt was detected and turned back against the CIA?

[Peter Lemkin]

He has a very good handle on what might have been going on at the CIA (a mole hunt) using Oswald's file as disinformation to spot the mole. And it is very interesting that the anonymous "construction man" who gave DPD the initial description of the shooter (broadcast at 12:45 PM, before Mr. Brennan talks to Agent Sorrells) used the very bits of dis-information Mr. Simpich suggests was planted in Oswald's file. Does that mean that Angleton's mole hunt worked? Or does it mean that the mole hunt was detected and turned back against the CIA?

I think what Simpich is suggesting is the second....that the mole hunt was penetrated or turned [by whoever triggered the initial mole hunt] and used to blackmail most of rest of the CIA [and other intelligence apparatus] to forever keep their silence on what they might know [and not REALLY explore what they might not]....as well as to withhold documents, tell lies, create false trails, etc.
Some who were working in or had once been in the CIA were involved [as were other groupings] - but they blackmailed all that were not...and managed also to blackmail those portions of their agencies or groupings not in on the plot...it was a 'beautiful' coup from the point of the plotters....50 years on and only a handful [regarded by most of American society as paranoid conspiracy theorists] have a grip on what the elephant in the [darkened] room looks like from sensing parts of it. The plot was amazingly complex....amazingly complex and fantastic tradecraft - strictly fascist and putschist ideology. We had a coup d'etat. We live under it still.

[Drew Phipps]

So if at least part of the assassination was intended as a slap in Angleton's face, for clumsily planting dis-information in the Oswald file (at least), what other bits and pieces might have been a direct poke at Angleton, and his obsession with moles?

[Peter Lemkin]

So if at least part of the assassination was intended as a slap in Angleton's face, for clumsily planting dis-information in the Oswald file (at least), what other bits and pieces might have been a direct poke at Angleton, and his obsession with moles?

From my reading of things they cared not to do anything positive or negative to Angleton or most anyone else in the 'Company' - only to achieve their goals, cover it up, force the hand of others to cover it up, and cover their tracks with false info and multiple false trails. I'm sure many suspected immediately who were involved; gathered proofs as things went on [without telling the Public] - but no one had the will to bring the killers to justice [and I don't mean the shooters]. More than just the President was killed. America as I and others knew it died as well....long having been ill - but capable of recovery - after Dallas was DOA.