Book Depository superintendent Roy Truly is probably best known for working with Ruth Paine to get Harvey Oswald a job at the TSBD, as well as for his conflicting accounts of encountering Oswald with Marion Baker immediately after the assassination.
But to me what is the strangest tale involving him comes from J. Edgar Hoover, in the following letter to Rankin, part of CE 3131. Note the highlighted section of the reproduction below:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]5888[/ATTACH]For visitors unable to see the graphics here, the highlighted portion of this 9/18/64 letter from Hoover to Rankin says:
Mr . Roy S . Truly, Warehouse Superintendent, strongly objected to the printing of all employees as he
felt it would seriously handicap the work of his firm; however, he did make available those employees who
would have had occasion to handle the cartons in question.
Page 3 of this same letter is also interesting:[ATTACH=CONFIG]5889[/ATTACH]The highlighted words from page 3 state:
In view of the refusal of the above gentlemen to permit the further printing of employees, no further
action is being taken by this Bureau in this regard unless specifically advised to the contrary by you .
These words beg a number questions. Why is Roy Truly telling J. Edgar Hoover which employees the FBI can and cannot fingerprint in a case involving the assassination of a sitting president? And why on earth would Hoover settle on a selection of employees who only "had occasion to handle the cartons in question?"
Another document in CE 3131 indicates that on 6/15/64 the FBI fingerprinted 15 former and current employees of the TSBD. On 9/2/54 a few other employees were fingerprinted.
So, here's the real issue. Within hours of the assassination, FBI agents were in the field confiscating elementary school records and the earliest employment records of Lee Harvey Oswald. Six months later, Hoover seems to be making a desultory effort to find out who might have actually handled the boxes by the so-called "sniper's nest" on the TSBD sixth floor. Why?
The real State Secret in the Kennedy assassination was the biography of "Lee Harvey Oswald."
Jim Hargrove Wrote:Book Depository superintendent Roy Truly is probably best known for working with Ruth Paine to get Harvey Oswald a job at the TSBD, as well as for his conflicting accounts of encountering Oswald with Marion Baker immediately after the assassination.
But to me what is the strangest tale involving him comes from J. Edgar Hoover, in the following letter to Rankin, part of CE 3131. Note the highlighted section of the reproduction below:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]5888[/ATTACH]For visitors unable to see the graphics here, the highlighted portion of this 9/18/64 letter from Hoover to Rankin says:
Mr . Roy S . Truly, Warehouse Superintendent, strongly objected to the printing of all employees as he
felt it would seriously handicap the work of his firm; however, he did make available those employees who
would have had occasion to handle the cartons in question.
Page 3 of this same letter is also interesting:[ATTACH=CONFIG]5889[/ATTACH]The highlighted words from page 3 state:
In view of the refusal of the above gentlemen to permit the further printing of employees, no further
action is being taken by this Bureau in this regard unless specifically advised to the contrary by you .
These words beg a number questions. Why is Roy Truly telling J. Edgar Hoover which employees the FBI can and cannot fingerprint in a case involving the assassination of a sitting president? And why on earth would Hoover settle on a selection of employees who only "had occasion to handle the cartons in question?"
Another document in CE 3131 indicates that on 6/15/64 the FBI fingerprinted 15 former and current employees of the TSBD. On 9/2/54 a few other employees were fingerprinted.
So, here's the real issue. Within hours of the assassination, FBI agents were in the field confiscating elementary school records and the earliest employment records of Lee Harvey Oswald. Six months later, Hoover seems to be making a desultory effort to find out who might have actually handled the boxes by the so-called "sniper's nest" on the TSBD sixth floor. Why?
The real State Secret in the Kennedy assassination was the biography of "Lee Harvey Oswald."
As to the school records and employment records being confiscated it is obvious that the FBI long before knew about Harvey and Lee and were trying to obliterate records which would point to two different people. Thankfully John Armstrong spent ten years finding every job, home, landlord, school etc.where both boys lived, attended etc. and both "Mothers" lived and worked.
Regarding the latent print, most of us know that this was matched to LBJ's hit man Malcolm Mac Wallace in 1998 by Print expert Nathan Darby. My friend and neighbor Nathan passed on in 2006, as did my friend deep cover researcher Jay Harrison (5/25/05) who obtained Wallace's known prints (from the murder of John Kinsner) and the latent, then found the best expert in Austin, Nathan Darby, gave it to him "blind" and he made the match. I know that this is now being disputed but I SAW the match here at a joint birthday I gave for Nathan and myself 10/25/03. Nathan had tried to show me many times before this but I did not really SEE it til that Saturday so I don't care about the new "no match" findings. Richard Bartholomew and I clearly saw it. (As did another expert in Luling who independently made the match but then became too afraid to go public with it.)
Jim Hargrove Wrote:Book Depository superintendent Roy Truly is probably best known for working with Ruth Paine to get Harvey Oswald a job at the TSBD, as well as for his conflicting accounts of encountering Oswald with Marion Baker immediately after the assassination.
But to me what is the strangest tale involving him comes from J. Edgar Hoover, in the following letter to Rankin, part of CE 3131. Note the highlighted section of the reproduction below:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]5888[/ATTACH]For visitors unable to see the graphics here, the highlighted portion of this 9/18/64 letter from Hoover to Rankin says:
Mr . Roy S . Truly, Warehouse Superintendent, strongly objected to the printing of all employees as he
felt it would seriously handicap the work of his firm; however, he did make available those employees who
would have had occasion to handle the cartons in question.
Page 3 of this same letter is also interesting:[ATTACH=CONFIG]5889[/ATTACH]The highlighted words from page 3 state:
In view of the refusal of the above gentlemen to permit the further printing of employees, no further
action is being taken by this Bureau in this regard unless specifically advised to the contrary by you .
These words beg a number questions. Why is Roy Truly telling J. Edgar Hoover which employees the FBI can and cannot fingerprint in a case involving the assassination of a sitting president? And why on earth would Hoover settle on a selection of employees who only "had occasion to handle the cartons in question?"
Another document in CE 3131 indicates that on 6/15/64 the FBI fingerprinted 15 former and current employees of the TSBD. On 9/2/54 a few other employees were fingerprinted.
So, here's the real issue. Within hours of the assassination, FBI agents were in the field confiscating elementary school records and the earliest employment records of Lee Harvey Oswald. Six months later, Hoover seems to be making a desultory effort to find out who might have actually handled the boxes by the so-called "sniper's nest" on the TSBD sixth floor. Why?
The real State Secret in the Kennedy assassination was the biography of "Lee Harvey Oswald."
As to the school records and employment records being confiscated it is obvious that the FBI long before knew about Harvey and Lee and were trying to obliterate records which would point to two different people. Thankfully John Armstrong spent ten years finding every job, home, landlord, school etc.where both boys lived, attended etc. and both "Mothers" lived and worked.
Regarding the latent print, most of us know that this was matched to LBJ's hit man Malcolm Mac Wallace in 1998 by Print expert Nathan Darby. My friend and neighbor Nathan passed on in 2006, as did my friend deep cover researcher Jay Harrison (5/25/05) who obtained Wallace's known prints (from the murder of John Kinsner) and the latent, then found the best expert in Austin, Nathan Darby, gave it to him "blind" and he made the match. I know that this is now being disputed but I SAW the match here at a joint birthday I gave for Nathan and myself 10/25/03. Nathan had tried to show me many times before this but I did not really SEE it til that Saturday so I don't care about the new "no match" findings. Richard Bartholomew and I clearly saw it. (As did another expert in Luling who independently made the match but then became too afraid to go public with it.)
Dawn
I have to wonder, as I wander, how many finger and/or palm prints are required to make a match beyond question?
Dawn Meredith Wrote:Regarding the latent print, most of us know that this was matched to LBJ's hit man Malcolm Mac Wallace in 1998 by Print expert Nathan Darby. My friend and neighbor Nathan passed on in 2006, as did my friend deep cover researcher Jay Harrison (5/25/05) who obtained Wallace's known prints (from the murder of John Kinsner) and the latent, then found the best expert in Austin, Nathan Darby, gave it to him "blind" and he made the match. I know that this is now being disputed but I SAW the match here at a joint birthday I gave for Nathan and myself 10/25/03. Nathan had tried to show me many times before this but I did not really SEE it til that Saturday so I don't care about the new "no match" findings. Richard Bartholomew and I clearly saw it. (As did another expert in Luling who independently made the match but then became too afraid to go public with it.)
Dawn
That news spread like wildfire in 1998, but as I recall it kind of died out after some legitimate researcher who also suspected Wallace in the hit said the fingerprints were not a match (although he surely didn't have Mr. Darby's credentials in fingerprint analysis). I found this online which is purported to show the prints Mr. Darby analyzed:
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What bothers me about this, though, is Wallace's obvious ties to LBJ. Whatever Johnson was, he wasn't stupid, and only a fool would send his close friend on an assignment to kill a sitting president. If Mr. Darby's analysis is correct, I'll bet the farm this is planted evidence.
Jim Hargrove Wrote:What bothers me about this, though, is Wallace's obvious ties to LBJ. Whatever Johnson was, he wasn't stupid, and only a fool would send his close friend on an assignment to kill a sitting president. If Mr. Darby's analysis is correct, I'll bet the farm this is planted evidence.
If you read "The Spider's Web: The Texas School Book Depository and the Dallas Conspiracy" by William Weston, it may explain why the FBI treated Truly and the TSBD so lightly. If the building was part of a network of gun-running/drug-running rackets involving powerful people across the West and South, Hoover may have been aware of this and knew not to open that door. Wallace could have been involved in those rackets too, and his print could have come from anywhere.
13-04-2014, 11:52 PM (This post was last modified: 14-04-2014, 12:13 AM by Jim Hargrove.)
Tracy Riddle Wrote:If you read "The Spider's Web: The Texas School Book Depository and the Dallas Conspiracy" by William Weston, it may explain why the FBI treated Truly and the TSBD so lightly. If the building was part of a network of gun-running/drug-running rackets involving powerful people across the West and South, Hoover may have been aware of this and knew not to open that door. Wallace could have been involved in those rackets too, and his print could have come from anywhere.
Geez, that's a new one on me. Did Weston offer the reader any solid evidence good enough to interest a cop or a DA (had it been more timely)?
Did he suggest an... er... (cough) intelligence connection? How good was that evidence?
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