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FBI Evidence Proves Oswald's Ammunition was not Capable of Sufficient Accuracy to Kill JFK
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I just recently purchased an "Oswald" rifle and ammo. Trying to get to the range to se how it works. I'll let you know.
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Anthony DeFiore Wrote:I just recently purchased an "Oswald" rifle and ammo. Trying to get to the range to se how it works. I'll let you know.

Excellent! Is it an M91/38? What are you shooting for ammunition?
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.

Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964
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Anthony DeFiore Wrote:I just recently purchased an "Oswald" rifle and ammo. Trying to get to the range to se how it works. I'll let you know.
My husband years ago suggested buying one also. To which I said "why?".
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Dawn Meredith Wrote:[quote=Anthony DeFiore]I just recently purchased an "Oswald" rifle and ammo. Trying to get to the range to se how it works. I'll let you know.[/QU
My husband years ago suggested buying one also. To which I said "why?".

LOL Then we could sing "....Dawnie's got a gun....." Smile
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.

Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964
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Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.

Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964
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Thanks to Bob Prudhomme for these elegantly researched and presented posts!

Not only is so much about the alleged murder weapon suspect, the so-called evidence tying the Carcano to "Oswad/Hidell" is perhaps even more difficult to accept.

Vice president of Klein's Sporting Goods William Walden testified to the Warren Commission that he couldn't exactly say when the infamous money order for the alleged murder weapon from "Hidell" was deposited, which is hardly surprising since the money order placed in evidence (after magically appearing from a guy, I think, in Alexandria, VA) gives no hint that it was EVER deposited.

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Other than the stamp from Klein's to deposit the money order to the First National Bank of Chicago, there is not a single other stamp from any financial institution or postal authority showing it was actually processed. Compare that to any other financial instrument from that era or now and see how many stamps are affixed to it.

Leaving no stone untouched, however, the Warren Commission managed to find out precisely when Klein's did deposit the money order with the following exhibit.

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The exhibit is supposed to indicate that Klein's deposited the suspect money order on February 15, 1963, nearly a month BEFORE the Post Office issued it, and for a different amount to boot!

If there is a lesson to all this, it is surely that the conspirators, the FBI and the Warren Commission were all perfectly satisfied inventing whole fantasy worlds constructed of really very shoddy evidence, secure that few people had the ability to see through the charade. Times have changed.

Thanks again to Bob.


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Jim Hargrove Wrote:Thanks to Bob Prudhomme for these elegantly researched and presented posts!

Not only is so much about the alleged murder weapon suspect, the so-called evidence tying the Carcano to "Oswad/Hidell" is perhaps even more difficult to accept.

Vice president of Klein's Sporting Goods William Walden testified to the Warren Commission that he couldn't exactly say when the infamous money order for the alleged murder weapon from "Hidell" was deposited, which is hardly surprising since the money order placed in evidence (after magically appearing from a guy, I think, in Alexandria, VA) gives no hint that it was EVER deposited.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]5851[/ATTACH]
Other than the stamp from Klein's to deposit the money order to the First National Bank of Chicago, there is not a single other stamp from any financial institution or postal authority showing it was actually processed. Compare that to any other financial instrument from that era or now and see how many stamps are affixed to it.

Leaving no stone untouched, however, the Warren Commission managed to find out precisely when Klein's did deposit the money order with the following exhibit.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]5853[/ATTACH]

The exhibit is supposed to indicate that Klein's deposited the suspect money order on February 15, 1963, nearly a month BEFORE the Post Office issued it, and for a different amount to boot!

If there is a lesson to all this, it is surely that the conspirators, the FBI and the Warren Commission were all perfectly satisfied inventing whole fantasy worlds constructed of really very shoddy evidence, secure that few people had the ability to see through the charade. Times have changed.

Thanks again to Bob.

So much of the "evidence" against Harvey is like this. On purpose? I think so. He had to die as any decent criminal defense attorney would have obtained an acquittal .
With that said I want to welcome Austin Defense attorney and old friend Drew Phipps to DPF.
What a nice surprise to see his PM's.
Dawn
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Dawn Meredith Wrote:
Jim Hargrove Wrote:Thanks to Bob Prudhomme for these elegantly researched and presented posts!

Not only is so much about the alleged murder weapon suspect, the so-called evidence tying the Carcano to "Oswad/Hidell" is perhaps even more difficult to accept.

Vice president of Klein's Sporting Goods William Walden testified to the Warren Commission that he couldn't exactly say when the infamous money order for the alleged murder weapon from "Hidell" was deposited, which is hardly surprising since the money order placed in evidence (after magically appearing from a guy, I think, in Alexandria, VA) gives no hint that it was EVER deposited.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]5851[/ATTACH]
Other than the stamp from Klein's to deposit the money order to the First National Bank of Chicago, there is not a single other stamp from any financial institution or postal authority showing it was actually processed. Compare that to any other financial instrument from that era or now and see how many stamps are affixed to it.

Leaving no stone untouched, however, the Warren Commission managed to find out precisely when Klein's did deposit the money order with the following exhibit.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]5853[/ATTACH]

The exhibit is supposed to indicate that Klein's deposited the suspect money order on February 15, 1963, nearly a month BEFORE the Post Office issued it, and for a different amount to boot!

If there is a lesson to all this, it is surely that the conspirators, the FBI and the Warren Commission were all perfectly satisfied inventing whole fantasy worlds constructed of really very shoddy evidence, secure that few people had the ability to see through the charade. Times have changed.

Thanks again to Bob.

So much of the "evidence" against Harvey is like this. On purpose? I think so. He had to die as any decent criminal defense attorney would have obtained an acquittal .
With that said I want to welcome Austin Defense attorney and old friend Drew Phipps to DPF.
What a nice surprise to see his PM's.
Dawn

Yes, welcome to Drew Phipps. I have never met Mr. Phipps but we have been exchanging PM's over the last week regarding CE 399. He has a great interest in this topic and seems to possess a keen analytical mind.

I believe he will be a great addition to the forum.
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.

Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964
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Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.

Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964
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Quote:If there is a lesson to all this, it is surely that the conspirators, the FBI and the Warren Commission were all perfectly satisfied inventing whole fantasy worlds constructed of really very shoddy evidence, secure that few people had the ability to see through the charade. Times have changed.

Thanks again to Bob.

Thank you all for the nice compliments.

In my work, it is easy to see the government "construct" a case; Oz-like, you are supposed to be impressed by the thunder and smoke - pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. An analogous situation happened to the Warren Commission, they were handed a crappy set of cards and told what to make of it. The Warren Commission was playing catch up right from the starting gate. Projecting confidence isn't fraud, or is it?

Since the WC evidence is such a house of cards, I doubt that the "pre-assassination conspiracy" cared much about the difficult work they left for the consequent "post-assassination conspiracy," so long as the mission is accomplished, the shooters get away, and so long as there WAS a convenient patsy. Local law enforcement would see to the rest. Which indicates a disturbing lack of concern on the part of the plotters, and thereby should help us, now, identify some of the participants.
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