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Ruby video stating indirectly Lbj caused assassination ?
#21
While I have never really looked at the Kilgallen death, as I recall, there was a period of around a year between her interview with Ruby and her death. It would seem to me if she really had something, she would have published it. I have always felt she was not murdered.
Ahimsa….may you live in a world of non-forcefulness.
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#22
Trust me Dorothy Kilgallen is a done deal CIA kill. The good-looking CIA agent they infiltrated her with got an off-duty New York cop bartender to dose her cocktail with an overdose. Don't quote me precisely but the mixture of barbiturates showed the pills could not have come from the pills Kilgallen had at home. Also, three different barbiturates were mixed. Mixing barbiturates increases their lethality. That New York cop retired soon after and opened a high end restaurant in upstate New York with funds no one could find the source of. The way they found Kilgallen, propped up in a bed she never used with a book she had recently finished and no reading glasses, displayed a typical CIA black ops set-up. Her habit of after show cocktails and affairs with good looking men was studied and exploited in a typical CIA study of their target fashion. I think the hair-dresser friend who found her said she never would have gone to bed without removing her make-up, which shows the dose walloped her unexpectedly and was not administered by herself.

Kilgallen gave a copy of her Ruby manuscript to her friend Florence Pritchett who died soon after and the script went missing.

It took a few years but examination of the Kennedy assassination soon taught me that there is no objective normal or possible devil's advocate innocence of the other side here.
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#23
Tom Bowden Wrote:While I have never really looked at the Kilgallen death, as I recall, there was a period of around a year between her interview with Ruby and her death. It would seem to me if she really had something, she would have published it. I have always felt she was not murdered.




It's a huge mistake to make a comment like this in public. I suggest you study the case deeper. The Kilgallen murder is one of the more obvious "Hit List" deaths connected to JFK.
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#24
Tracy Riddle Wrote:Well, if we follow that logic, they could have had the shooters just stand out on the sidewalk on Elm and open fire in front of everyone. The conspirators were not magicians with supernatural powers. They had to take some basic precautions. Was it really that hard to drive the truck around to the back parking lot behind the fence? Was there something to be gained by having the shooter walk up the grass in full view of everyone? No.



I think one level of facilitator allowed a lower level to wing it in order to make it look like a home grown operation.

They let Ralph Yates witness a clear Oswald imitator in order to draw attention to the Lone Nut Lee Harvey Oswald. They did this while one Oswald was at work in the Depository.

George Applin saw Ruby in the back row of the Texas Theater while Oswald was being arrested. This fits the pattern of Ruby having an open "backstage pass" to the assassination stage and coverage.

Lee Farley is trying to break down the Ralph Yates story. He's a fool.
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#25
Albert Doyle Wrote:Kilgallen gave a copy of her Ruby manuscript to her friend Florence Pritchett who died soon after and the script went missing.

Florence Pritchett Smith had been a very close personal friend of JFK for two decades. Still a relatively young woman, she died two days after Kilgallen and, as stated above, Kilgallen's material was never found.

Pritchett Smith was a significant figure. She served as an ambassador to Cuba under Eisenhower, and met JFK in and around Havana many times. She was also a professional journalist. It is hard to imagine that Kilgallen confided in her without thinking of her connections.
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#26
Albert Doyle Wrote:
Tom Bowden Wrote:While I have never really looked at the Kilgallen death, as I recall, there was a period of around a year between her interview with Ruby and her death. It would seem to me if she really had something, she would have published it. I have always felt she was not murdered.




It's a huge mistake to make a comment like this in public. I suggest you study the case deeper. The Kilgallen murder is one of the more obvious "Hit List" deaths connected to JFK.

Reading through one of the referenced Kilgallen threads she apparently was "spooked" by something she learned in New Orleans. Anyone have an idea who she would have met in New Orleans at that time?
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#27
It was all very "cloak and dagger," she didn't even tell the guy that she went with (not the gigolo dude) who she was meeting.

She subsequently met with the FBI, and refused to name her source, saying she would rather die. The most upsetting thing she learned before her death was that her movements were getting leaked to authorities. (my money's on Pataki as the leaker.)
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)

James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."

Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."

Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
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#28
Albert Doyle Wrote:
Tracy Riddle Wrote:Well, if we follow that logic, they could have had the shooters just stand out on the sidewalk on Elm and open fire in front of everyone. The conspirators were not magicians with supernatural powers. They had to take some basic precautions. Was it really that hard to drive the truck around to the back parking lot behind the fence? Was there something to be gained by having the shooter walk up the grass in full view of everyone? No.



I think one level of facilitator allowed a lower level to wing it in order to make it look like a home grown operation.

They let Ralph Yates witness a clear Oswald imitator in order to draw attention to the Lone Nut Lee Harvey Oswald. They did this while one Oswald was at work in the Depository.

George Applin saw Ruby in the back row of the Texas Theater while Oswald was being arrested. This fits the pattern of Ruby having an open "backstage pass" to the assassination stage and coverage.

Lee Farley is trying to break down the Ralph Yates story. He's a fool.

I believe Yates' story, but that fits in with the attempt to set up Oswald before the assassination by creating witnesses. Ruby, on the other hand, was seen at Parkland hospital shortly after 1:30pm, so it's hard to see him getting to the Texas Theater on time for Oswald's arrest. Or more importantly, why he would need to be there.
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#29
Oooooh, I know...Ruby double!!!!
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)

James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."

Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."

Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
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#30
You should be more careful Drew. Lone Nutters do the same thing at the suggestion of an Oswald double.


Just like at Parkland there were no consequences for Ruby being caught at incriminating places. He was covered no matter what.


The mind tends to seek rationality and understanding. All that doesn't apply to CIA wonderland.
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