Scott Kaiser Wrote:Not only is it my belief the CIA in fact orchestrated the plot, but also carried it out using their own men, and anti-Castro Cubans to not only assassinate Kennedy, but also set up Oswald. [DRE] - (William Pawley).
Your text makes it look like Pawley said that.
My belief as well. It's kind of obvious that the machinations, operation, and cover-up were done by persons with powers and abilities only CIA could have managed.
However as badly as Charles behaved I still agree with his Sponsor, Facilitator, Mechanic model and qualify the above with CIA acting in obedience to shadow powers hidden in the eastern establishment and business members who ultimately approved and backed those who actually carried it out. However the persons with the most immediate and direct power were those who did the assassination and killed witnesses after. There was some kind of evil control center maintaining the coup that was more directly related to CIA than the Sponsors.
30-08-2014, 12:22 AM (This post was last modified: 30-08-2014, 08:57 PM by Scott Kaiser.)
Quote:Your text makes it look like Pawley said that.
For the record, and corrections, Pawley did not say that, I am. Ramon Orozco and my father were acquaintances, that is to say they also worked with each other.
Both, Orozco and my father worked for Pawley using Pawley's boats and attacking Fidel Castro's fishing boats with a 57mm sinking those fishing boats.
My father described making $700 in one day. My father also wrote down in Pawley's own words on a letter head saying "Spending my money on getting rid of Kennedy was my best investment". That is what Pawley said to my father.
My father further writes, that he's not sure if he can trust Pawley.
A few years back when I was in Miami at the Big Five hall where the CIA veterans were holding their luncheon, it was there, at that time the news of Romon Orozco had been announced, Mr. Orozco had passed away the day before.
Here is an article on Morgan by Albarelli: http://www.wnd.com/2002/04/13606/ has some useful info. also check out Albarelli's books if you haven't already
Best / Ran
Yes! This IS the same guy who was my father's neighbor:
Indeed, in interviews with journalists in Cuba, Morgan vaguely alluded to contacts he had in Florida with the militant group Directoro Revolucinario, (DRE) which operated with CIA support. Former intelligence officials say that while Morgan was in South Florida, he also had contacts with CIA operatives there that included future-Watergate burglars Howard Hunt and Frank Sturgis, and Mafia go-between Johnny Rosselli. My father also knew Rosselli. Thanks for this find Ran!
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Howard S. Liebengood Papers - Library of Congress
May 16, 2011 - scandal, the scandal concerning his brother Billy Carter's ties to ..... Howell, William Morgan, 1973 ... Telephone records, Frank Sturgis, 1973.
Thanks HP Albarelli for your research on this, I would have never known who this person was underlined in Libengood's papers. Now, I know, thank you!
James Earl "Jimmy" Carter, Jr. (born October 1, 1924) is an American politician and member of the Democratic Party who served as the 39th President of the United States from 1977 to 1981 and was awarded the 2002 Nobel Peace Prize. Carter, raised in rural Georgia, was a peanut farmer, served two terms as a Georgia State Senator and one as the Governor of Georgia, from 1971 to 1975. He was elected President in 1976, running as an outsider who promised truth in government in the wake of the Watergate scandal.
Billy Carter is Jimmy Cater's brother, Billy Cater had connections to William Morgan Howell in 1973, the very same damn year my father was showing off those photographs, and who also had conversations with Frank Sturgis. Jimmy, [promised truth] in government in the wake of the Watergate scandal.
Signed,
More BS Cater!
My father "admits" to stealing index cards from U.S. Customs, but the CIA to this day refuses to admit the photos my father stole from them which contained photographic evidence of Howard Hunt, Gordon Liddy, Barnard Barker, Frank Sturgis and David Morales in Dallas Texas on 11/22/1963.
The day president John F. Kennedy was assassinated.
[size=12]The bodyguard of Maurice Ferre, Ramon Orozco Crespo, an employee of Maule Industries, was questioned about the assassination of President John F. Kennedy by the Secret Service. The United States Secret Service considered Ramon Orozco Crespo a threat to Kennedy in the Fall of 1963. In 1970, Ramon Orozco Crespo was arrested for illegally exporting munitions and articles of war; the FBI questioned him in 1973 about an attack on a Cuban fishing boat. Ramon Orozco Crespo and Humberto Lopez Jr. were seriously injured in March 1974, when a bomb exploded in their hands as they were concealing it inside a book addressed to a Cuban Embassy. The father of Humberto Lopez, Humberto Lopez Sr., was questioned by the Miami District Attorney about his activities as part of the squad HUNT and NIXON recruited in 1972 to attack demonstrators at the funeral of J. Edgar Hoover. Ramon Orozco Crespo was the partner of Angel Ferrer, the Watergater who was registered at the Watergate Hotel during the break-in, but was never picked up by the police. The United States Secret Service gave its report on Ramon Orozco Crespo and the Kennedy assassination, entitled "Cuban Terrorist," to the National Archives. An attempt was made to obtain the document. It was missing. [USSS CO-2-34030 #316, #1188 see CO-2-34341] Castro double-agent Manuel DeArmas claimed that Ramon Orozco Crespo had been a long-standing CIA employee. Maurice Ferre was an associate of Rolando Masferrer, and he had close ties to the Bay of Pigs Brigade.
This is the same Maurice Ferre who my father put a gun to his head and threaten to kill him, this is also the same Maurice Ferre who ran for senate for the State of Florida who I had a hard time trying to get him to return my phone calls, when he finally called me on his cell. He only listened to what I had to say without saying a word. This conversation took place before I purchased a Dictaphone or I would have had our one way conversation recorded which I still found quit interesting, even if he didn't have much to say.[/SIZE]
Hemming, William Morgan and Sturgis secretly marshaled a invasion of Panama. Sturgis: "Morgan said he was preparing an invasion of Panama...he wanted me to be second in command." Sturgis told Paul Meskil:
An FBI report on Sturgis was generated on April 6, 1959, at Miami, Florida. On April 7,1959, Sturgis was of interest to the St. Louis, Missouri, FBI Office. [Field 97-109] The Norfolk, Virginia, FBI Office filed a report on Sturgis dated April 13, 1959. [Field 97-13]On April 18, 1959, a ship carrying 35 of "Morgan's Raiders" sailed from Cuba toward Panama. On April 18, 1959, after receiving a report that the invasion ship had left from apart under William Morgan's control, the Panamanian Government order Arias' arrest.Panamanian authorities found that John Wayne had deposited $525,000 in Arias' bank account between November 19, 1957 and April 5, 1959. John Wayne said he was partners with Arias in a shrimp-exporting business. Six days later the crew landed and were taken into custody by Panamanian authorities. Sturgis associate Alexander Rorke was waiting to rendezvous with the group. Sturgis and William Morgan were arrested in Cuba. William Morgan was soon released. Sturgis stated:
And, here we go! William Pawley enters the picture!
The Panama thing went bad in the latter part of February 1959 and everyone was on their guard. This wasn't sanctioned by Fidel, it wasn't sanctioned by anybody. And none of the assholes that went on this invasion were rebels, they hadn't been in the mountains, they all had shorten air. The guy that organized the Panama invasion was William Pawley. He suckered John Wayne's people and everybody into the thing. Pawley met him when they were making a movie about the Flying Tigers.
Panama Canal Treaties - American Memory - Library of ...
Carter, Billy. Carter, Jimmy, 1924- Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), ..... visit, 1972-1973 Haldeman, H. R., questions for, 1973 Howell, William Morgan, 1973 ...
