Mexico City - Part 1: The Evidence IS the Conspiracy

[David Josephs]

http://www.ctka.net/2014-Josephs/Josephs...t%201.html

I welcome any feedback in order to improve the presentation. Part 2 is in the works. With each new piece of work I hope to delve deeper and deeper into the Evidence, its creation, its intent and its results.
DJ

Posted October 7, 2014.


Mention "Mexico City" to a JFK Conspiracy Realist and you can expect to get any of a variety of reactions, from the opinion that Mexico City is the "Rosetta Stone" of the conspiracy to pure agnosticism. At the core of the Mexico City charade is the same question that haunts most of the Warren Commission Report (WCR) conclusions and evidence; why? Why would Lone Nut Lee Harvey Oswald be going to Mexico City, to both Cuban & Russian embassies, with what appears in the evidence to be the desire to secure passage through Cuba to Russia?

[Jim Hargrove]

[Peter Lemkin]

I'd second that motion - a very good piece. Please let us know when Part II is ready! I think there are more than one 'Rosetta Stone' to the JFK False-Flag Assassination, but Mexico City is certainly one of them...and ANY one of them PROVES the official version wrong - and knowingly so - conspiratorially so!

[Albert Doyle]

I've never seen anyone directly claim the evidence sends Oswald to Silvia Odio's from New Orleans like this. It makes sense. The Australian girls on the bus saw an Oswald with curly hair.

The plot could have involved framing Oswald to run off to Cuba after the assassination. Oswald thinking he was part of a bio-weapon plot, and the framers trying to implicate Cuba in the assassination. That would explain Oswald's leaving his stuff on Marina's dresser.

[Drew Phipps]

You asked for suggestions. I hope you will accept my suggestions in the spirit in which they are intended, to make your presentation more effective.


"The evidentiary purpose of the trip was to secure an in-transit visa for passage thru Cuba to Russia for himself and his family." "evidentiary" is probably not the word you are looking for there, maybe "evident" ? "Ostensible"? "apparent"?

I would move the mention of the Chicago plot to later and concentrate on the fundamentals of your argument early on.

You should identify Win Scott before using his statements. (JFK researchers will of course know who he is but you should allow for less informed readers as well.)

To preserve your writing credibility, you should mention Oswald's use of aliases in multiple contexts before you describe why this particular use is suspect. Probably needs a separate section, but I think you should decide whether or not your discussion is ordered in time (with the three parts) or by topic. If you order by time, save the discussion about aliases until the point in the narrative where Oswald supposedly uses an alias.


"Over the Labor Day weekend while Oswald and family are in New Orleans with the Murrets (Lee's mother's sister and husband), two men arrived at the door of one Robert McKeown, a self confessed arms dealer who worked in similar circles as Jack Ruby, had supplied arms for Castro's cause and was a close friend of Castro himself." (you got too many people in this compound sentence for it to be obvious who was a friend of Castro. Might want to also mention that Murret is a Mob-connected person.)

Your discussion of the events of Sept 20-23 preceeds your discussion of events on September 18.

I would remove from the photo, the red marks over the Kennedy images.

You should identify Nagel before discussing him.

You have done a good job adding the pictures (and citations) where needed, but you shouldn't assume that your readers are familiar with the body of JFK research. I'm looking forward to Part 2.

[David Josephs]

Jim - Thank you for your kind words

This is Part I... I did do another article showing how Oswald could not have had created or enacted a plan to assassinate anyone - a minor detail when convicting him in public opinion.
I agree with you regarding the docs that try to place him in Mexico, especially found at Ruth's - which will be discussed in part 3 - Oct 3 and after: the documents "from" Mexico


Albert - I will be expanding on Odio, Leon (which was Ruby's middle name by the way) and his two traveling buddies in part 2 which I am in the middle of working on now...
I am standing firm that everything Cuba, Russia and Oswald related to Mexico was a Phillips run disinfo-OP and has no basis in reality. We will see that the events ascribed to Sept 28th never happened.
And that the phone call with a man claiming to be Oswald was also transcribed from Oct 3rd when he was alredy in Dallas and a bit later as well.

Drew - good constructive info, thanks. I did not want to do a strict chronology, only loose and tie evetns into that timeline based on how they interrelate.

I am not convinced that HARVEY ever used an alias in the way people think. In fact quite the opposite. The person signing the Hotel register did so based on what was written on the visa, NOT what was signed on the Visa.
The DFS decides that "LEE, Harvey Oswald" is as most would expect: H.O. Lee.

If you could please point to HARVEY's use of the O.H. Lee, H.O. Lee, or Hidell in reference to himself. The SSS card was "created" as was the Cert of Service - yet were they ever used to ID HARVEY as Hidell - or were they?

We have a Hidell used by Harvey as a reference, as the Chapter president of NOLA FPCC and on the bogus order forms for the weapons - all items to increminate Harvey, yet none used by him to refer to himself...
Please cite any examples you are aware of... thanks.

Regarding the way I decided to color and create the JFK/RFK/Hoover image - that is a piece of art I did designed to bring focus to the discrepancies and create a bit of a shocking image of betrayal.

I did try to make the article as readable by those not overly familar with the situation... you make some good points which I will incorporate into part 2.

Thanks
DJ

Attached is the only Oswald/Hidell direct connection I can find on a piece of evidence... Writing HIDELL onto an order form with that PO Box does not connect HARVEY with that action directly.
I am not aware of either Oswald using HIDELL ID when referring to himself - you?

Also attached is the original graphic used to connect Hidell and Nagel and the two Oswalds

[Drew Phipps]

New Orleans:

If we suppose that "Harvey" was the one creating the FPCC in New Orleans, then he used the Hidell name on FPCC materials. I believe Marina said he told her to write the Hidell name (in her handwriting).

I also seem to recall the Hidell alias being stamped on some of the FPCC posters, or some other material from New Orleans, with "Harvey's" stamp kit.

There was a vaccination card from Louisiana with the "DR. Hidell" name on it. Hidell was an alternate name for mail delivery to the New Orleans post box shared by "Harvey".

Dallas:

A rifle and the pistol were allegedly ordered under the Hidell alias. It seems undisputed that "Harvey" possessed a rifle and a pistol subsequent to that point in time.

He was allegedly holding a draft card in Hidell's name when arrested.


Whether that stuff was prepared by "Harvey" or someone else to set "Harvey" up, is sort of the point of your post, plus a good part of "Harvey and Lee" and related writings. I don't mean to open the "Hidell" bit up for general discussion, but I think you should at least acknowledge that there is some reason to suppose that "Harvey" indeed used the Hidell alias for some things.

[Albert Doyle]

The expansion of the FPCC false flag into Mexico could have been used to clear Oswald internally with people who might ask questions. It might have also been used to keep Oswald himself from realizing how he was being framed in Mexico. The FPCC ruse was used as a diversion to keep others from realizing the Mexico City impersonation's main intention was to frame Oswald.

[Magda Hassan]

The expansion of the FPCC false flag into Mexico could have been used to clear Oswald internally with people who might ask questions. It might have also been used to keep Oswald himself from realizing how he was being framed in Mexico. The FPCC ruse was used as a diversion to keep others from realizing the Mexico City impersonation's main intention was to frame Oswald.

Has any researcher done work on the FPCC? I do remember a Counter Punch article posted some years ago here by Nathaniel about the committee but other than that I havent seen too much on it. It looks like an interesting area of study irrespective of the JFK angle.

[Peter Lemkin]

Jim - Thank you for your kind words

This is Part I... I did do another article showing how Oswald could not have had created or enacted a plan to assassinate anyone - a minor detail when convicting him in public opinion.
I agree with you regarding the docs that try to place him in Mexico, especially found at Ruth's - which will be discussed in part 3 - Oct 3 and after: the documents "from" Mexico


Albert - I will be expanding on Odio, Leon (which was Ruby's middle name by the way) and his two traveling buddies in part 2 which I am in the middle of working on now...
I am standing firm that everything Cuba, Russia and Oswald related to Mexico was a Phillips run disinfo-OP and has no basis in reality. We will see that the events ascribed to Sept 28th never happened.
And that the phone call with a man claiming to be Oswald was also transcribed from Oct 3rd when he was alredy in Dallas and a bit later as well.

Drew - good constructive info, thanks. I did not want to do a strict chronology, only loose and tie evetns into that timeline based on how they interrelate.

I am not convinced that HARVEY ever used an alias in the way people think. In fact quite the opposite. The person signing the Hotel register did so based on what was written on the visa, NOT what was signed on the Visa.
The DFS decides that "LEE, Harvey Oswald" is as most would expect: H.O. Lee.

If you could please point to HARVEY's use of the O.H. Lee, H.O. Lee, or Hidell in reference to himself. The SSS card was "created" as was the Cert of Service - yet were they ever used to ID HARVEY as Hidell - or were they?

We have a Hidell used by Harvey as a reference, as the Chapter president of NOLA FPCC and on the bogus order forms for the weapons - all items to increminate Harvey, yet none used by him to refer to himself...
Please cite any examples you are aware of... thanks.

Regarding the way I decided to color and create the JFK/RFK/Hoover image - that is a piece of art I did designed to bring focus to the discrepancies and create a bit of a shocking image of betrayal.

I did try to make the article as readable by those not overly familar with the situation... you make some good points which I will incorporate into part 2.

Thanks
DJ

Attached is the only Oswald/Hidell direct connection I can find on a piece of evidence... Writing HIDELL onto an order form with that PO Box does not connect HARVEY with that action directly.
I am not aware of either Oswald using HIDELL ID when referring to himself - you?

Also attached is the original graphic used to connect Hidell and Nagel and the two Oswalds

The entire Nagell story/mystery - although well told by Russell is still one of the least known, explored and plumbed 'Rosetta Stones' of the case. As an aside, and for the first time to mention publicly, I was given the name and contact information for Nagell's CIA contact [or one of them] who is still alive in the mid-West. As I live in Europe, I offered the information to Russell to pursue, but he felt it was something he didn't want to tackle - the Nagell story had cost him much in time and energy - mostly mental energy, I think. The information was given to me by a generally accepted as reliable 'ex'-intelligence person who is now also in contact with the research community. I can't and won't disclose the name. It is likely a somewhat dangerous mission, but if someone is interested in working on this with me, get in contact privately. If something tangible could be developed, I'm sure Russell would be drawn back in - and he knows much more about Nagell, than all of the rest of us combined. Sorry if this is off topic. I think not. No one in the 'official story of Dallas' crowd has even attempted to explain how Nagell knew long before the assassination of the assassination; knew that Oswald[s] were to play some main role; nor how he came to have a similar military ID card of Oswald's in his possession. Again, prima facia evidence of foreknowledge and conspiracy at high levels.