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The Battle for Novorussiya
Lauren Johnson Wrote:There was a bomb planted in the elevator of his apartment building. Very sad day'.

Fuck.
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The blame has already been laid on a ukrop saboteur team. That was quick. I have not heard that the ukrops have claimed credit at this point. I personally think the leaders of revolt who have been killed come from the Kremlin. imo.

His wife and child were home but not hurt.
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
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Lauren Johnson Wrote:The blame has already been laid on a ukrop saboteur team. That was quick. I have not heard that the ukrops have claimed credit at this point. I personally think the leaders of revolt who have been killed come from the Kremlin. imo.

His wife and child were home but not hurt.

[video=youtube_share;TbGvcG1AKoE]http://youtu.be/TbGvcG1AKoE[/video]

Precedent for an elevator bomb assassination:

Murder of Motorola Handwriting of Groysman's Friends

Alexander Rogers

Translated by Ollie Richardson & Angelina Siard

October 18, 2016

http://stalkerzone.org/murder-motorola-h...s-friends/

Original: http://jpgazeta.ru/aleksandr-rodzhers-ub...groysmana/

Quote:In the 90's in Vinnytsia, former athlete Ruslan Popik (nicknamed "Pop") rose, who became criminal "authority". I will not go into the details about his affairs (he also protected markets, like the current "Prime Minister" Groysman), they do not relate to our topic. But when in 1999-2000, in the city a wave of clashes between gangs for zones of influence began, many were affecting. "Gollandets" was shot in both legs
when he came to collect a debt from a businessman who protected Zdraykovsky. Zdraykovsky was forced to go into hiding. And "Pop" was blown up in an elevator.

WHO KILLED MOTOROLA, AND WHY? I'LL TELL YOU.

http://www.facebook.com/russell.b.bentle...6100941418

Quote:So, Saker, Southfront, and Shary are saying things don't add up with the Motorola hit. Maybe, from their perspectives thousands of kilometers from where it happened. But I'm about 500 meters from where it happened, and here's my take -

1) There have been 2 previous attempts on Motorola's life in the last 6 months. At the hospital in June, and behind his apartment building in August. Somebody's been out to get him for a while. Whoever killed him had tried at least twice before, and failed. Sparta has their own intelligence unit, and connections to the intelligence services of the DNR. If someone here was out to get him, and had already tried twice, Motorola would have had a real good idea of who it was. If it was someone from the DNR side, he would have known there was no way they wouldn't eventually get him. It would have been certain suicide for him to stay, as well as risking the lives of his wife and kids. He could easily have "pulled a Strelkov" and moved to Crimea and retired to write his memoirs, exposing whatever traitors he thought had it in for him. But he didn't. I've seen him several times, strolling with his wife and baby in the city center, shopping, going to the gym. Not what he'd have been doing if he thought he had to worry about getting it in the back from his comrades or leaders. Not at all. He was fearless, but not stupid by a long shot. Especially with the lives of his wife and kids.

2) Zaharchenko trusted Motorola enough to send him and Sparta to the LNR to safeguard Plotnitsky during/after the coup attempt. That's a big responsibility. One not likely given to someone you were planning to kill, and someone you had tried to kill twice already.

3) "High security building"? I've been in that building more than once myself. They have Babushkas guarding the door, not MGB or Sparta. It is a multi floored apartment building where ukrop semi-oligarchs used to live. Ukrops have the blueprints and probably old sets of keys that just might still work. The elevators are Otis. Made in the USA. Maybe they needed "repairs" recently, you know, like the WTC did in August '01.
There are MANY vantage points, hundreds, from which an assassin could see when Motorola came home, and the tech is cheap and easy to detonate a bomb via cell phone (2 out of 3 cell services in DPR are still owned AND OPERATED by ukrops) and if you have a cell phone detonator, it is nothing to add a camera or mic function to the rig, to make sure the target is in the kill zone when you press the button.

4) I trust and respect Alexander Vladimirovich Zaharchenko. He's a good guy, and he's doing a good job that sure ain't easy. I saw his vid from last night, and I really doubt he was acting. I believe the technical term is "Fuckin' PISSED". .He threatened directly ukrop army and secret services, something I doubt was pre-approved by Moscow. He called Arseny Sergeyevich Pavlov his "good friend", and I think he meant it.

5) So does Sparta Brigade, one of the biggest and strongest units in the whole Novorussian Army. Because if they thought Zaharchenko had anything to do with it, they'd be in the streets already, and nobody could stop them. BUT THEY'RE NOT. Motorola was loved by his men and many. many other people here. Zaharchenko would be committing political suicide to kill him, and what reason could he have? Motorola had just proven himself a trusted and loyal officer to Zaharchenko and Novorussia in the LPR only weeks before. Apparently, the people that are in a position to know, and to do something about it, do not think it was an "inside job".

6) Cui Bono? Nobody in the DPR, that's for sure, and nobody loyal to the future of the RF, either. Motorola was a GREAT commander. Courageous, skilled, and loved by his men. The DPR NEEDS Commanders like that. It was a strategic loss, from a military perspective. This war isn't over yet, and we may well be coming up on the hardest part of it in the near future.

If things get hot in Syria, they will heat up here. Things are STILL hot as Hell at the Front, and getting hotter, here and in Syria, every day. The war goes on, and we cannot afford to bump off our own best commanders. If the Army falls, the Republic falls, and our Army suffered a grave loss last night. Motorola was not, to my knowledge, seeking political power or in any conflict with the Administration here. He was not running for office, was not listed in the Primaries, made no public statements about politics, or much of anything else.

7) The Kiev and US fascists are celebrating tonight, the murder of one of their most powerful and charismatic foes. Someone who had whipped their ass at the Donetsk airport, and all along the Donbass Front. The only thing that could make them happier would be to see some suspicion and in-fighting break out between Sparta and the Administration, or for other DPR Commanders to wonder if they were next for the proverbial bayonet in the back. But that ain't gonna happen, because the truth is clear to all here whose opinions matter. The fuckin' ukrops did it. They tried twice before, and failed. This time, they sent in the A-team. and finally got the job done. But rather than sow suspicion and discord, they have brought us all closer together to face the real and common enemy.
The suspicions of an "inside job" are not only unfounded, they are dangerous. There was no reason for anyone in DPR or RF to want Motorola dead, and every reason for the Kiev nazis to. The nazis, just like with MH-17, had motive, means and opportunity. Motorola trusted his leaders and comrades. His actions and subsequent events prove it. No serious person here thinks it was any one other than ukrop diversants who killed him this time, and tried twice before, And that includes me.

Discord among comrades sticks a knife in the back of the whole DPR, Novorussia and the RF. We need unity now, as much as we did during the darkest days of the war, because darker days may soon be upon us.
I respect The Saker, Shary and Southfront, and I am surprised they put forth these speculations without any evidence. If there is any proof Motorola had problems with comrades here, let's see it. But I don't see any, and I live in Donetsk, and have friends here who are privy to things not usually made public. There have been some disturbing, and maybe even suspicious, killings of Novorussian Commanders, but they have ALL been in the LPR, not here. And while I don't have an opinion on Plotnitsky or the workings of the LPR, (because I simply don't know, and admit it) I DO know the DNR is not the LPR.

Zaharchenko is not Plotnitsky, and he enjoys well-deserved popular support here, and has no good reason to risk losing it all by killing one of his best friends and comrades. He is no fool, and knows his fate will be the same as the DNR's. For him to attack Motorola would be an attack on the whole DNR and on himself. Think about it. The ukrop and US nazis had every reason to want Motorola killed. The administration here (and close by) had every reason not to, with one of the most important ones being that his death would cause these exact unfounded rumors and suspicions. To all who speculate without evidence, I say your speculations are foolish and dangerous. If you have any evidence, let's see it. Put up, or shut up.

Russell "Texac" Bentley
Donetsk, DPR

[video=youtube_share;8n4E_kkcpp4]http://youtu.be/8n4E_kkcpp4[/video]
"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

Joseph Fouche
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Very high risk of false flag operation in Kiev!

The Saker

October 19, 2016

http://thesaker.is/very-high-risk-of-fal...n-in-kiev/

Quote:The Leader of the DNR, Alexander Zakharchenko, was interviewed yesterday on the most watched talk-show on Russian TV, "Evening with Vladimir Soloviev" and when asked by the host whether the local accomplices who had made such a murder possible had been identified, he only replied "the investigation is still ongoing". This short exchanges illustrates a couple of interesting things:

First, even though there are some who don't want questions to be asked, these questions reappear everywhere, even on prime time TV in Russia.

Second, while Zakharchenko did, of course, blame the Ukie secret service SBU, he did not reject the notion that there were local accomplices either. All he said was "the investigation is continuing". I bet you that this issue local accomplices will continue to plague the DNR leadership until and unless they come up with some credible explanation for what happened.

Third, the Russian blogger Anatolii Sharii made an excellent and very funny video yesterday about those who criticized him for asking the tough questions. Here is what he said in a video entitled "nobody forbade not to think" (with English subtitles):

[video=youtube_share;VSXtcPFG4BI]http://youtu.be/VSXtcPFG4BI[/video]

All I can say is that I fully agree: if somebody prefers not to think great! But please don't censor others for using their brains.

Now, let's turn to a very dangerous consequence of the current situation.

One one hand, we have the murder of a very popular military leader of the DNR and on the other, we know have the Leader of the DNR, Alexander Zakharchenko, on record making direct threats to retaliate against Ukrainian officials and especially SBU leaders. Here is what said (with English subtitles):

[video=youtube_share;4PMNgrdcZuQ]http://youtu.be/4PMNgrdcZuQ[/video]

And yesterday, during the talk show with Soloviev, Zakharchenko went as far as to say that his forces are ready to liberate Kiev.

Now put yourself in the position of an Ukronazi leader or, better, into the position of the Kiev CIA station chief: you don't want Minsk-2, what you want it war with Russia. Is the solution not obvious?

Organize a horrible terror attack in Kiev, say a car bomb in front of the SBU building in Kiev during rush hour, just to make sure to get a maximal number of civilians, and then blame it all on Zakharchenko and the DNR leaders, of course! And by the time the entire "civilized world" (aka the US and its NATO puppets) will denounce the latest "Russian atrocity", launch a massive attack on Novorussia and say that the DNR forces have attacked "just as Zakharchenko predicted they would".

Friends, this is very very bad. I cannot blame Zakharchenko for his words, he has just lost a close friend and he is understandably upset, but the fact is that this all starting to look extremely dangerous.

To make it all worse, there are now clear signs that the Obama Administration has decided to double-down (yet again!) in Syria and that their oh-so-subtle plan is to bomb Daesh out of Mosul to force them to enter Syria and join the fight against the Syrians and the Russians. Just in time to deny the Russians their victory in Aleppo (or so, at least, do the Americans hope). And, of course, the bombs falling on Mosul are "democratic" and "humanitarian", so the press has nothing to say about it. Only Russian bombs are "inhumane" and otherwise horrible.

So if the AngloZionists have decided to double-down in Syria, is it not likely that they have also decided to double-down in the Ukraine? Create a nice little war just on time for Hillary to beat Trump who is, after all, a well-known "Putin ally", right?

I consider that the risks of a CIA-SBU organized false flag in the Ukraine (probably Kiev) are right now at a maximum and the risks of an Ukronazi attack on Novorussia very high.
"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

Joseph Fouche
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USA Urgently Recalls Their CIA & FBI Agents From Ukraine

November 16, 2016

Translated by Ollie Richardson & Angelina Siard

http://stalkerzone.org/usa-urgently-reca...s-ukraine/

Original: http://nahnews.org/964629-ssha-v-ekstren...cru-i-fbr/

Quote:US intelligence officers are urgently leaving Kiev, whose offices were in the buildings of the Prosecutor General and Security Service of Ukraine. This was stated on the air of the talk*show "Meeting Place" by the former people's Deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine Igor Markov. In his opinion, the recalling of employees of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) says that the United States is gradually leaving Ukraine.

"There is such a nuance a week ago, all the representatives of the FBI, located in the building of the Prosecutor General, and the CIA, which was located in the SBU, were urgently transferred to Romania and the Czech Republic. For security officers it is a clear signal that the U.S. is slyly withdrawing from Ukraine. Only analysts remained, while the investigators all left," he said.

Note that the Ukrainian side denies the fact of presence on the territory of the country of the CIA and FBI. And the American flag that was hung next to the "flag" of Ukraine at the entrance to the SBU building on Vladimiryrskaya Street in Kiev was raised allegedly due to the arrival of the Deputy the US State Department.

"Like Cornered Rats": Most Flee Ukraine While the Main One Tries to Cling Onto Power:

http://stalkerzone.org/like-cornered-rat...nto-power/
"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

Joseph Fouche
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Paul Rigby Wrote:USA Urgently Recalls Their CIA & FBI Agents From Ukraine

November 16, 2016

Translated by Ollie Richardson & Angelina Siard

http://stalkerzone.org/usa-urgently-reca...s-ukraine/

Original: http://nahnews.org/964629-ssha-v-ekstren...cru-i-fbr/

Quote:US intelligence officers are urgently leaving Kiev, whose offices were in the buildings of the Prosecutor General and Security Service of Ukraine. This was stated on the air of the talk*show "Meeting Place" by the former people's Deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine Igor Markov. In his opinion, the recalling of employees of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) says that the United States is gradually leaving Ukraine.

"There is such a nuance a week ago, all the representatives of the FBI, located in the building of the Prosecutor General, and the CIA, which was located in the SBU, were urgently transferred to Romania and the Czech Republic. For security officers it is a clear signal that the U.S. is slyly withdrawing from Ukraine. Only analysts remained, while the investigators all left," he said.

Note that the Ukrainian side denies the fact of presence on the territory of the country of the CIA and FBI. And the American flag that was hung next to the "flag" of Ukraine at the entrance to the SBU building on Vladimiryrskaya Street in Kiev was raised allegedly due to the arrival of the Deputy the US State Department.

"Like Cornered Rats": Most Flee Ukraine While the Main One Tries to Cling Onto Power:

http://stalkerzone.org/like-cornered-rat...nto-power/

::popcorn::
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
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Lauren Johnson Wrote:
Paul Rigby Wrote:USA Urgently Recalls Their CIA & FBI Agents From Ukraine

November 16, 2016

Translated by Ollie Richardson & Angelina Siard

http://stalkerzone.org/usa-urgently-reca...s-ukraine/

Original: http://nahnews.org/964629-ssha-v-ekstren...cru-i-fbr/

Quote:US intelligence officers are urgently leaving Kiev, whose offices were in the buildings of the Prosecutor General and Security Service of Ukraine. This was stated on the air of the talk*show "Meeting Place" by the former people's Deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine Igor Markov. In his opinion, the recalling of employees of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) says that the United States is gradually leaving Ukraine.

"There is such a nuance a week ago, all the representatives of the FBI, located in the building of the Prosecutor General, and the CIA, which was located in the SBU, were urgently transferred to Romania and the Czech Republic. For security officers it is a clear signal that the U.S. is slyly withdrawing from Ukraine. Only analysts remained, while the investigators all left," he said.

Note that the Ukrainian side denies the fact of presence on the territory of the country of the CIA and FBI. And the American flag that was hung next to the "flag" of Ukraine at the entrance to the SBU building on Vladimiryrskaya Street in Kiev was raised allegedly due to the arrival of the Deputy the US State Department.

"Like Cornered Rats": Most Flee Ukraine While the Main One Tries to Cling Onto Power:

http://stalkerzone.org/like-cornered-rat...nto-power/

::popcorn::


Trump doesn't have a national security team.

I sense this was Obama's call.
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Quote:Trump doesn't have a national security team.

I sense this was Obama's call.

One possibility is that Trump was informally contacted or maybe he even initiated it informing the CIA the game is over and you better figure out what you're going to do.

Or a pending coup and civil war.
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
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Lauren Johnson Wrote:
Quote:Trump doesn't have a national security team.

I sense this was Obama's call.

One possibility is that Trump was informally contacted or maybe he even initiated it informing the CIA the game is over and you better figure out what you're going to do.

Or a pending coup and civil war.

The Trump transition team is in total turmoil.

He can't find anyone who wants to be in his government.

Deep geopolitical thinking is not part of the Donald Trump I know.

He's too busy scolding the New York Times than calling shots for the CIA overseas.

The CIA looks at Trump as a joke.
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Why hasn't Trump's transition team called the Pentagon?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/16/politics/d...index.html
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