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Ruth Paine claims she heard March 20 as purchase date of rifle on the news 11/23 - really?
#1
Except the order was sent March 12th.
Klein's deposit is March 13
and only on the Order Blank do we see the date March 20, 1963.
We have no idea what day the rifle was supposedly picked up and transported home.

Does anyone have any proof that the date MARCH 20, 1963 was broadcast related to the rifle purchase date? I can't imagine them broadcasting THAT date this given the timeline and who had what info.

Only the FBI had access to that item of evidence until later in the afternoon on the 23rd when the SS arrives at Klein's.

I will continue looking yet some of you are very intuned with what was broadcast - if you could help out, I think we can prove here that Ruth knows something on the 23rd that no one could know...

But I'm not sure
DJ

ps... if you look at all the other days like the 19th and 21st which are filled with info, claiming she did not have the room to write "LHO - purchase of rifle" is a bit far-fetched...

Is it just a coincidence that the 20th was also the evidence's shipping date?

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Mr. JENNER - Now, I turn to March, and I direct your attention to the upper left-hand corner of that card, and it appears to me that in the upper left-hand corner are October 23, then a star, then "LHO" followed by the words "purchase of rifle." Would you explain those entries?
Mrs. PAINE - Yes. This was written after.
Mr. JENNER - After?
Mrs. PAINE - This was written indeed after the assassination.
Mr. JENNER - All right.
Mrs. PAINE - I heard on the television that he had purchased a rifle.
Mr. JENNER - When?
Mrs. PAINE - I heard it on November 23.

Mr. JENNER - Yes.
Mrs. PAINE - And went back to the page for March, put a little star on March 20 as being a small square, I couldn't fit in all I wanted to say. I just put in a star and then referring it to the corner of the calendar.

Mr. JENNER - That is to the entry I have read?
Mrs. PAINE - Put the star saying "LHO purchase of rifle." Then I thought someone is going to wonder about that, I had better put down the date, and did, but it was a busy day, one of the most in my life and I was off by a month as to what day it was.
Mr. JENNER - That is you made the entry October?
Mrs. PAINE - October 23 instead of November.
Mr. JENNER - It should have been November 23?
Mrs. PAINE - It should have been November 23.
Mr. JENNER - And the entry of October 23, which should have been November 23, was an entry on your part indicating the date you wrote on the calendar the star followed by "LHO purchase of rifle" and likewise the date you made an entry?
Mrs. PAINE - On the 20th.
Mr. JENNER - This is the square having the date March 20?
Mrs. PAINE - Yes.
Mr. JENNER - Is that correct?
Mrs. PAINE - I might point out that I didn't know Lee had a middle name until I had occasion to fill out forms for Marina in Parkland Hospital.
Mr. JENNER - That is when you learned that his middle name was Harvey and his initial was H?
Mrs. PAINE - Right.


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#2
Sorry, but I am posting a link to an FBI report page. It contains details counter to your analysis, so I can presume it is fake, fabricated, unreliable? The search results yielded on my first attempt, prompted by reading the opening post of this thread, displayed a link to a Weisberg file that included this.: (Update: Now, I see you've posted the same elsewhere and Von Paine has already shared the details displayed below, with you.)

http://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docI...ND%20rifle

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Quote: It contains details counter to your analysis, so I can presume it is fake, fabricated, unreliable?


Once again Tom... can you please drop the defensiveness?

What is the first thing I ask in My post? "Does anyone have any proof that the date MARCH 20, 1963 was broadcast related to the rifle purchase date?"

I was asking for the info as I searched as well and did not find what I wanted... I'm glad you were able to find it so quickly.

Given your vast resources... can you tell us how Curry got the info from the FBI or Secret Service and why would they say ORDERED on 3/20 when it was ORDERED on 3/12, and the FBI/SS knew that too and it was SHIPPED on March 20... just simple slips of the tongue?

It's stamped at the top of this Order and is the post mark on the envelope - all of which the FBI supposedly had on the microfilm when they left and the SS learned about on the afternoon of the 23rd...

Thanks
DJ



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#4
David Von Pein had the info and the video and the spot it was broadcast - wanted to say thanks to him for that.

We argue a bit, he and I, yet he still has the class to help me out... albeit just to prove me wrong...

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#5
So, on what occasion is Ruth Paine helping Marina to "fill out forms at Parkland"? Would that be November 24, the day LHO died? Everybody and their dog knew his whole name and much of his background by the end of the 22nd, so that can't be what she means. But if it is, then how can she have made that note on the 23rd?

Was there a different occasion? October 20 was the day Audrey was born. It would seem that she was born at Parkland. It is suspiciously close to the date she claims she mistakenly made the entry on her calendar.

Are there other visits to Parkland that somebody knows about?

I think Ruth is dissembling here.
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