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Peter Lemkin Wrote:CIA [or perhaps more correctly, some who were in, formerly in, and/or connected to CIA] were a part of the plot and the cover-up. I don't personally believe they were the only ones involved, but I do believe their role was central. ::bowtie::
The cover-up and murder of witnesses had a CIA-centered form. I'm also beginning to realize the corruption of the Dallas Police was probably CIA ordered.
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And military intelligence. This was a military-CIA operation (borrowed from Northwoods, which was a Pentagon-developed plan assisted by the CIA).
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Tracy Riddle Wrote:And military intelligence. This was a military-CIA operation (borrowed from Northwoods, which was a Pentagon-developed plan assisted by the CIA). Then why his silence (on the record) all these decades ? Some people know. Not me. RIP, good Senator. A Good Life.
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:Jim DiEugenio Wrote:He may have said that in public.
In private, he thought the CIA killed Kennedy. And he told that to Tanenbaum when he gave him his files.
That is what Hart felt privately as well [that some aspect of the CIA had participated, perhaps in league with others], but I don't believe he ever said so publicly either [not good for one's health, especially for a high-profile person]. The list of people who suspected CIA involvement is quite the list!....not even trying to be complete...RFK, LBJ, Hart & Schweiker, even Kerry [at one time!; though I'd bet he'd deny it now!].....this list easily could be hundreds of persons long [just of public figures]....among the better researchers the view is all but unanimous that CIA [or perhaps more correctly, some who were in, formerly in, and/or connected to CIA] were a part of the plot and the cover-up. I don't personally believe they were the only ones involved, but I do believe their role was central. ::bowtie::
Well said, Mr. Lemkin, : :
John Garrett Underhill, Jr. (Gary) may have been onto something after all.
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Alan Ford Wrote:John Garrett Underhill, Jr. (Gary) may have been onto something after all.
I think Underhill's fate eliminates the "may" in that proposition...
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In 1976, during the Schweiker-Hart assassination investigation, a 5th "back-yard photograph" was found and identified as 133-C.[SUP]MAR,63-04 [/SUP]Mrs. Geneva Ruth Dees, the widow of former Dallas Police Officer Roscoe Anthony White, found the photo among her husband's possessions. According to Mrs. Dees this print was acquired by her deceased husband during the course of his employment with the Dallas Police Department. The photograph was similar to the other backyard photographs except that it was much clearer, which indicated that it may have been a first generation photo. [H&L, p. 492]
Harvey Oswald's involvement with US intelligence agencies linked him directly to the most sensitive operations ever conducted by the CIA--the assassination of a US President. Oswald's involvement and knowledge had to remain secret, and he could never be allowed to go to trial. Senator Richard Schweiker, who originally chaired the HSCA until forced out by CIA interests, was correct when he said, "Oswald had the fingerprints of intelligence all over him." [H&L, p.944]
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23-08-2015, 04:10 AM
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[QUOTE][quote=Jim Hargrove]In 1976, during the Schweiker-Hart assassination investigation, a 5th "back-yard photograph" was found and identified as 133-C.[SUP]MAR,63-04 [/SUP]Mrs. Geneva Ruth Dees, the widow of former Dallas Police Officer Roscoe Anthony White, found the photo among her husband's possessions. According to Mrs. Dees this print was acquired by her deceased husband during the course of his employment with the Dallas Police Department. The photograph was similar to the other backyard photographs except that it was much clearer, which indicated that it may have been a first generation photo. [H&L, p. 492][/QUOTE]
...almost [ahem!] as if R.A. White was involved in the production of the BYPs...which I have reason to believe he was. His odd 'industrial accident' death some years later, IMHO, was also to get rid of an involved person so they couldn't testify or ever turn into a squealer. The clean up squad of some agency was quite busy for many years weren't they. The list of JFK-related untimely and unnatural deaths [usually made to look like and compliantly reported by coroners, police and media as accidents, suicides and 'natural' caused] is on my count over 200 and very likely twice that.
[QUOTE]Harvey Oswald's involvement with US intelligence agencies linked him directly to the most sensitive operations ever conducted by the CIA--the assassination of a US President. Oswald's involvement and knowledge had to remain secret, and he could never be allowed to go to trial. Senator Richard Schweiker, who originally chaired the HSCA until forced out by CIA interests, was correct when he said, "Oswald had the fingerprints of intelligence all over him." [H&L, p.944][/QUOTE]
Truer words about Oswald were never said. Sadly, the American Polity and History has the fingerprints of 'intelligence all over it' - and remember that intelligence agencies and the other elements of the National Security State are not rouge agencies/entities/persons...they are the 'muscle' for the ruling elites who remain in place and in power, no matter who is voted in or out every one, two or four years. In fact, it is just about another way around, e.g., on 11/22/63 a 'special election' of the ruling elite, IMO, was held, and JFK was violently and bloodily 'voted' out of office. Not a single normal American of voting age and ability had a vote or 'say' in that 'special election'....nor really in any election since...but that is another story.
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Albert Doyle Wrote:Alan Ford Wrote:John Garrett Underhill, Jr. (Gary) may have been onto something after all.
I think Underhill's fate eliminates the "may" in that proposition...
Indeed, Mr. Doyle, you are absolutely right.
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