Question about Mae Brussel and pre-internet CT information exchange

[Drew Phipps]

We could still become fascist through free elections if we aren't careful in 2016.

Did Powers truly blame Oswald for his being shot down? I see from Amazon preview that Powers' book Operation Oversight" on page 318 mentions Oswald, but for some reason I can't preview that page even when signed in...

[Anthony Thorne]

Oswald attended the Powers trial, and Walt Brown noted that a crowd pic of the trial audience in an earlier book on the incident appears to have Oswald in it.

Walt Brown's theory - argued in detail in Brown's ebook on the shootdown (linked below) - is that Oswald was sent to Russia as a prepared patsy to take the blame for an eventual U2 crash - 'he was a Communist, he was at Atsugi' etc etc - but his part became untenable when Powers survived the event and began giving awkward details to his interrogators. Shortly after this Oswald, perhaps smelling a rat, bought a hunting rifle for protection and began agitating to return to the US. Thereafter, Dulles and co were left with an unused patsy who could now be unknowingly put forth for other uses.

http://www.amazon.com/Master-Chronology-...t+brown+u2

[Marlene Zenker]

If you put Mae Brussell in our Forum search engine several threads will turn up...more will if you do it in google or other search engine and specify this Forum's url. I have several of her shows as mp3 files and one can buy them all on line now. She published several articles in various magazines. Live audience talks by Mae did happen - but were very rare. At the end of her life [the last years] she didn't go out much, and was getting death threats. As I said, the mysterious house that had cars with blackened windows drive in and out, usually at night, burned to the ground on the very day she died.....coincidence or conspiracy...I say most probably the latter. She was on to something very hot in her last months!..and she knew it - but Mae was on to hot stuff all along!!!. Last I heard, her archive is still in active contention as to who has control and what should be done with it...very sad...it is invaluable and has likely had some things removed by now. John Judge was a major in that battle, but with his sad death, I don't know who has taken over his efforts to see them put into an archive intact. I know one daughter doesn't want her letters to be part of the archive, but they are some of the best parts..she got letters from and to everyone..but that is another matter for another time. I think I posted on that here about three years back.

From Baylor last July (2015)...

Thank you for your gift to the JFK Collection Fund to assist in securing the Mae Brussell Collection. We appreciate your enthusiasm in supporting this acquisition. Unfortunately, Baylor University (W. R. Poage Legislative Library) and Ms. Diane Brussell could not work out an agreement for this transfer and the collection will remain with the Brussell Family.
I am writing to inform you of this recent development and provide you with three options for the redistribution of your gift from the JFK Collection Fund.

[Peter Lemkin]

If you put Mae Brussell in our Forum search engine several threads will turn up...more will if you do it in google or other search engine and specify this Forum's url. I have several of her shows as mp3 files and one can buy them all on line now. She published several articles in various magazines. Live audience talks by Mae did happen - but were very rare. At the end of her life [the last years] she didn't go out much, and was getting death threats. As I said, the mysterious house that had cars with blackened windows drive in and out, usually at night, burned to the ground on the very day she died.....coincidence or conspiracy...I say most probably the latter. She was on to something very hot in her last months!..and she knew it - but Mae was on to hot stuff all along!!!. Last I heard, her archive is still in active contention as to who has control and what should be done with it...very sad...it is invaluable and has likely had some things removed by now. John Judge was a major in that battle, but with his sad death, I don't know who has taken over his efforts to see them put into an archive intact. I know one daughter doesn't want her letters to be part of the archive, but they are some of the best parts..she got letters from and to everyone..but that is another matter for another time. I think I posted on that here about three years back.

From Baylor last July (2015)...

Thank you for your gift to the JFK Collection Fund to assist in securing the Mae Brussell Collection. We appreciate your enthusiasm in supporting this acquisition. Unfortunately, Baylor University (W. R. Poage Legislative Library) and Ms. Diane Brussell could not work out an agreement for this transfer and the collection will remain with the Brussell Family.
I am writing to inform you of this recent development and provide you with three options for the redistribution of your gift from the JFK Collection Fund.

Thanks. I missed that. Sad, as I don't believe the family will make it available to the public in some alternative way. They have the legal right, but I'd argue not the moral right here...unless they take it to another archive. Last I heard it was in two locations, and have no idea if it still is or not. It appears now to be lost to history and the family [at least for now]....very sad. I don't think Mae would have wanted this....she was always trying to get the information OUT, and to share it. What is the family afraid of or unhappy with?!

N.B. This is not the first time a family has done something similar. I was deeply involved in trying to convince the family of the late Tom Wilson to make his archive [collecting dust not far from Dallas, as fate would have it] available to researchers. Mrs. Wilson and one son would simply not allow it, and gave no rational explanation. By the time this part of the family are gone so will most of us who realize the importance of Tom Wilson's work! In this way, things get permanently lost all too often....and they are needed now...as the USA edges closer and closer to total fascism and takeover by a 'select' but hidden minority. The families often are not aware of how important it is for their loved one's work to be made available and simply suggest that everyone else just make due by re-inventing the research done.

[David Guyatt]

I don't think Mae thought that Nazis per se were behind [or should I say upfront and center] in the assassination...only that they played some key roles - old Nazis, neo-Nazis, and Nazi-friendly Americans. She knew it was an 'all-American' plot, but many of those 'all-Americans' were also fascist types who had been in bed with the latest fascists in town....not many years before the guns of Dallas. A couple of things in the article are off the mark, most are straight on target and a lot more names could now be added, but were not know to her at the time.

Thanks for that Pete. Yes, I'm inclined to agree that they were not per se behind JFK, but formed part of the nexus of the far right who were. Even so the connections are quite startling aren't they - which goes to show, I suppose, quite how pro-Nazi many parts of the US business and political elite were before, during and after WWII. The word sympatico spring to mind.

[Peter Lemkin]

I don't think Mae thought that Nazis per se were behind [or should I say upfront and center] in the assassination...only that they played some key roles - old Nazis, neo-Nazis, and Nazi-friendly Americans. She knew it was an 'all-American' plot, but many of those 'all-Americans' were also fascist types who had been in bed with the latest fascists in town....not many years before the guns of Dallas. A couple of things in the article are off the mark, most are straight on target and a lot more names could now be added, but were not know to her at the time.

Thanks for that Pete. Yes, I'm inclined to agree that they were not per se behind JFK, but formed part of the nexus of the far right who were. Even so the connections are quite startling aren't they - which goes to show, I suppose, quite how pro-Nazi many parts of the US business and political elite were before, during and after WWII. The word sympatico spring to mind.

Agreed, However, [and I don't want to divert the thread too much] as Mae points out there were some actual Nazi Nazis who played minor roles in the plot. Take for example General Walter Dornberger. He was the SS Gen. in charge of the Nazi/SS missile program. Under him was the more well known von Braun during the war. At the end of the War, Dornberger was held at Special Camp 11 [also called Island Farm Special Camp] in the UK until 1947. Shortly after he was released from British custody he rather magically had an American passport, American security clearances, and was transported to the East Coast of the USA on a military flight. Soon after that he was working in Bell Aviation in the Boston area [if I remember correctly]. Some years later he transferred to Bell in Ft. Worth, TX [sister city to Dallas]. There he very quickly became vice-President of his division in Bell. In 1963 working directly in Dornberger's office and under him was one CIA-linked man named Michael Paine....in who's garage on the 22 November 1963 were most all of LHO's possessions [and some others were conveniently planted there too], and in who's home Marina was staying and Lee had been visiting from time to time. That is not six degrees of separation...that is by my count only one. And there were others...but none of the Nazis played lead roles nor were the instigators of the plot. Persons more akin to Dulles, who was long 'in bed and in bank' with Nazis...but that is for another thread....and he was not alone in this kind of position between American fascist-friendly financier(or warrior)-spooks and European/Eastern fascist financier(or warrior)-spooks.

[Tracy Riddle]

In the pre-internet days, there was also the Austin-based local-access cable series Alternative Views, which was on for a long time. Many episodes are available online.



I remember in the mid-to-late 1980s, growing up in southern California, I managed to get hold of a Bay area punk rock magazine called Maximum Rock'n'Roll, which had some radical/conspiracy stuff in it.

http://maximumrocknroll.com/mrr-archives-001/

[Matthew Poe]

Very cool stuff, thanks Tracy, I've seen and picked up Maximum Rock and Roll in newsstands but had no idea about the CT legacy. Alternative Voices had some great guests! Emile DeAntonio, my favorite dissident filmmaker, to name one.

Peter,

What's the word on what's contained in Mae's archive? I can just imagine the wealth of magazines and clippings. Files and files of them. It's odd the family is refusing to make it publicly available. So at one point it was in the hands of Emory and Judge, but it reverted to the family because they couldn't bring the museum to fruition? What a shame...

By the way, when you mentioned Mae's daughter Bonnie dying in a car accident it reminded me of something in Praise From a Future Generation. Didn't Shirley Martin's daughter die in similar circumstances, or perhaps she herself was involved in a car crash? I'll have to dig it up I could be off base.

[Peter Lemkin]

Very cool stuff, thanks Tracy, I've seen and picked up Maximum Rock and Roll in newsstands but had no idea about the CT legacy. Alternative Voices had some great guests! Emile DeAntonio, my favorite dissident filmmaker, to name one.

Peter,

What's the word on what's contained in Mae's archive? I can just imagine the wealth of magazines and clippings. Files and files of them. It's odd the family is refusing to make it publicly available. So at one point it was in the hands of Emory and Judge, but it reverted to the family because they couldn't bring the museum to fruition? What a shame...

By the way, when you mentioned Mae's daughter Bonnie dying in a car accident it reminded me of something in Praise From a Future Generation. Didn't Shirley Martin's daughter die in similar circumstances, or perhaps she herself was involved in a car crash? I'll have to dig it up I could be off base.

It was not I who mentioned the mysterious death by car 'accident' of Mae's daughter Bonnie, but since it is being brought up, Mae herself felt it was a warning to her. Most of the people I know who knew Mae feel even her cancer death was not 'natural' - any more than the cancer death of Jack Ruby and many others. Interestingly, Ruby, Brussell and many others who were known to displease or be a problem for those who manipulate things from the 'Dark' have died of a rapid-progression form of cancer. Such do exist naturally, but statistically this would not make any sense - and it is well known that the intelligence community did decades of research in how to induce cancer [among other deadly forms of disease and death (or 'accidents/suicides') that look 'natural'].

Mae Brussell

May 29, 1922 - October 3, 1988)


Without a doubt Mae Brussell stands as one of the premier researcher and investigative journalists. She can be accurately described as one of the forerunners of what is now accepted commonly as citizen journalism in the current blogging world. Mae has directly inspired the works of prominent researchers like Alex Constantine, Dave Emory, Nip Tuck, John Judge and others who still produce works today.


Daughter of a Wilshire Temple Rabbi and granddaughter of I. Magnin of the I. Magnin clothing stores, Mae grew up in comfort. She eventually married and had five children where a particular incident changed her life forever. In November of 1963, President John F. Kennedy was assassinated and this was the catalyst that propelled Mae into her career in investigation of conspiratorial events and personalities. She began this journey by purchasing the 26 volume set of Warren Commission documents where she patterns, interconnections and vast other gross criminalities.


The course of this research took her through black ops such as Jonestown and the Symbionese Liberation Army to Nazi collaboration and technical assimilation into the current American landscape. Through government sponsored terrorism, false flag ops, the destruction of the 60's counter-culture; Charles Manson, the Zebra, Zodiac and the Son of Sam murders as a tool of terror, along with assassinations of prominent leaders and satanic ritual abuse and murder. Her expertise became so good that she began regular radio broadcasts of a show that featured her research. She became so effective by naming names and putting together the pieces of the horror puzzle, that she received death threats one of which was from Sandra Good from the Manson family. On December 16, 1970, Mae's daughter Bonnie Brussell was killed in an automobile accident which Mae believed was a warning to her. Other more egregious threats were launched towards her when she exposed linked elements of the U.S. military to satanic cults and practices. These death threats eventually took their toll and forced her off the air. Obstructed by undaunted, Mae continued producing broadcasts from her home and privately mailed them to subscribers. She went back to regular broadcasts in 1983 at KAZU in Pacific Grove California concluding on June 13, 1988. Her work was featured in the publication The Realist which was secretly financed by John Lennon.


Developing such a keen eye and investigative acumen, she could and had predicted many events that occurred before they happened, such as:


In August 1977 (Broadcast #282) Mae discussed Jim Jones and the Peoples Temple move to Guyana. She speculated it might be a training camp for assassination teams. This was more than a year before 913 members of the church were massacred on November 18, 1978.


On March 29, 1981, much of Mae's broadcast was spent discussing the power- struggle within the Reagan Administration and asked who will kill off their team members first. The following morning President Reagan was shot in Washington D.C.


On May 29, 1968 Mae confronted Rose Kennedy at the Monterey Peninsula Airport and handed her a note telling her Robert Kennedy would soon be assassinated. A week later he was shot to death at The Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles.


In an interview with Conspiracy Digest, Mae summarised her personal outlook and philosophy "I am against the planned political assassinations by our intelligence and defense agents.The CIA-FBI-DIA and DISC (Defense Industry Security Command) were set up originally to protect citizens of the USA. They became their own judges and juries, private servants of corporations with investments at home and abroad. I am against the constant destruction of evidence in criminal matters and political assassinations. Prime witnesses are murdered before or after testifying. Diaries are forged and planted in obvious places. Doubles are created to confuse. The Police Departments manipulate facts in cooperation with conspirators. I am outraged that our judicial system since 1947 has been patterned after Nazi Germany. Patsies are dead or locked away. The assassins walk the streets or leave the country - "home free". I am against using the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, Earl Warren, to cover up the assassination of President Kennedy. When the highest court is corrupt, there is no hope at local levels.

I am against allowing the CIA to spend $25 million since 1947 for the express purpose, as stated before, to alter our behavior. Is the State supreme over individuals? Who owns or controls our minds? Why was CIA Director Allen Dulles allowed to order 100 million LSD tablets? Were half the U.S. population going to receive their doses? What gives the CIA and Pentagon the right to define normal, or to determine what is national security? Are we being drugged through food, water and supplied with chemicals so we become slaves and robots? Where is all the cancer coming from? Why the preoccupation with death? Why is the U.S. Government in the business of creating a "Psycho-civilized" world? Who is ordering the ultrasonic waves to lower brain waves of city populations to an alpha state, leaving citizens susceptible to mass propaganda and hypnotic suggestion? These facts have been confirmed by researcher Walter Bowart in 1977. I learned about the project years ago.

I am against the mass media - CBS, ABC, NBC, UPI and AP being used by Washington D.C. since WWI, and by the CIA wince WWII, as pure propaganda tools. My positive philosophy is very simple. I believe there is in each of us a potential for peace and harmony. A few power-mad perverts dictate orders that must be challenged. They are going against the laws of nature. A family and society that does not care for its infants with love and affection will create and does produce mad bombers. The source of this peace and harmony is within the family unit, not government agents or law enforcement. Without love in the home there is never quiet in the community, cities or around the world. There are ways to counteract the evil being purposely planned. Study history. Separate fears and prejudices from facts. Recognize facts from propaganda. Invest energy in fighting for what you believe in. Analyze harder where we are going and what you are doing about it. What do you really believe in? How much do we care?"


Whilst in the midst of a far-reaching investigation into the Presidio molestation case Mae was hit with a fast-onset cancer and died on October 3, 1988; she was 66 years old.


You should know and remember that there are many different compounds and viruses that can cause cancer and can be most effectively modified to aggressively attack the body with very high resistance to treatment. As a tool of covert assassination it is exceptional as it is easily written off in medical forensic examinations. Cancer introduced through viral means is called an Oncovirus and it was estimated in 2002 cancer research that 17.8% of human cancers were caused by infections. If one needs further illustration they need only to examine AIDS and HIV infections. It is a relatively simple matter to isolate particular compounds and viruses and introduce them into a target by covert means. It can be done through food, drink, sex, doctor's visit or even by using DMSO (Dimethyl Sulfoxide) as a transfer agent spread on a automobile steering wheel. In Bob Marley's case it was vectored through a sharp copper piece of metal in a pair of boots given to him as a gift by Carl Colby, the son of William E. Colby Director of the CIA.


Mae Brussell once aptly stated "There is nothing worse than looking back and regretting not having done what was important to you. Don't die before you're dead."

[Matthew Poe]

I don't doubt it, especially having read Ed Haslam's Dr. Mary's Monkey.