04-04-2016, 08:35 PM (This post was last modified: 04-04-2016, 09:17 PM by Albert Doyle.)
Alan Ford Wrote:Good afternoon, Mr. Mitcham
In respect to height/measurements, you are on solid ground in spite of any protest to the contrary.
He says while running away from what was written without answering it. Ray clearly doesn't understand what he is talking about and, of course, it meets Alan's automatic approval.
Alan Ford Wrote:Moreover, though I won't share it at this time, I do have an image with Prayer Man and officialdom's Doorway man on the same plane. The problem that presents for anyone still believing Prayer Man isn't taller than 5'6" is upon comparison alongside Doorway Man he is the taller figure. So, if Doorway Man aka Billy Nolan Lovelady is 5'8", and Prayer Man presents an inch taller in the same picture, then Prayer Man cannot be only 5'6". Again, I am choosing to hold onto the image and allow as many people to jump upon the measurement "evidence" if they so choose. There's a time and place for presenting the image in question.
The height argument is sound as it was written and wasn't refuted by you. Lovelady is clearly 2-3 inches taller than Prayer Man in Unger's gif. Funny how two pictures both confirm Prayer Man as 5 foot 5 or 6 in comparison to the known heights of other people. (Thanks for pointing me to that Alan)
Let's take Billy Lovelady's own words to task ----->
*Credit Willy Loman wordpress site
Note precisely where Lovelady states he is standing.
Now, factor in his height (5'8"), then ask yourself Why is Prayer Man looming a full head taller than someone who should be two inches taller than him IF he really was only 5'6" tall? ----->
Now, while some people try to discount what's evident in the above image, back to the Challenge at hand.
Where were we? Oh, that's right, only one entity, Prayer Man, has produced more than a few specifics putting him in Prayer Man's position. While all the others combined (prayer woman, prayer person, prayer thing, prayer it, prayer _____, etc) have yet to produce any specifics at all. There's a reason for that.
*will retrieve the dynamics in the Weigman (Dave) reel if necessary. Otherwise, a full week later, and no specifics at all relative to prayer woman and her spawn. They have nothing (0). There's a reason for that.
Alan Ford Wrote:Note precisely where Lovelady states he is standing.
You're not keeping up with the arguments Alan. If you observe Gilbride's reference to Unger on page 566 of the Prayer Person thread at MacRae's you'll see Unger presented a motion gif that showed Lovelady stepping from the landing to the first step down. When he is on the landing Lovelady is clearly 2-3 inches taller than Prayer Man who is also clearly on the landing.
This is a done deal Alan because it dead verifies a precise 5 foot 5 or 6 height for Prayer Man from two different known sources.
Ray Mitcham Wrote:Hey, Albert/Brian/Ralph/Conehead, Buttons, tell us how a person standing in front of a person of the same height will appear shorter, in a photograph due to perspective. Use your "scientific " methods.::rofl::
Ray is confused and is misquoting what I said.
What I said was since Fratini's Tie Man was standing inside the foyer and Prayer Man was up at the front of the landing, that their appearing as equal in height would mean - by perspective - that Prayer Man would be shorter than Tie Man.
Ray has no idea of what he is talking about so he attacks this ignorantly because he doesn't understand it. Really, ignorance like this is the main problem with this issue.
Quote by Doyle " Tony, I mentioned in my previous post that if Prayer Person was at the front of the landing and Tie Man was inside the foyer - if Prayer Person was of equal height to Tie Man that the perspective difference would actually make Prayer Person shorter. I see you somehow didn't answer that. Your methodology is complete garbage Tony. "
I'll let others judge who is the liar
You have become the laughing stock of the internet. You don't have a single supporter of your position or statements. Begone, you charlatan.
Ray Mitcham Wrote:Quote by Doyle " Tony, I mentioned in my previous post that if Prayer Person was at the front of the landing and Tie Man was inside the foyer - if Prayer Person was of equal height to Tie Man that the perspective difference would actually make Prayer Person shorter. I see you somehow didn't answer that. Your methodology is complete garbage Tony. "
I'll let others judge who is the liar
You have become the laughing stock of the internet. You don't have a single supporter of your position or statements. Begone, you charlatan.
Ray is arguing with himself and just doesn't get it. He fails to comprehend that if Prayer Man is at the front of the landing and appears to be of equal height to Tie Man, who is inside the foyer, that means perspective would necessitate that Prayer Man is shorter. Ray's problem is he doesn't understand the argument.
Ray, do me a favor. Step back and watch a pro and learn something. Thanks to Alan's tip I've finally sealed the deal on this because Lovelady, compared to Prayer Man in Unger's gif, clearly shows he is 2-3 inches taller. Since Lovelady is 5 foot 8 that means we have a second confirming source for Prayer Man being 5 foot 5 or 6.
Alan doesn't realize he's beaten.
Quote:You have become the laughing stock of the internet. You don't have a single supporter of your position or statements. Begone, you charlatan.
False. Unger admitted my arguments caused him to realize Prayer Man is at the front of the landing. Drew was able to formulate confirming trigonometry because of my triangulation argument. And Gilbride was honest enough to admit what I wrote swayed him and offer confirming arguments on the Education Forum. Now Lee Kania also agrees.
The biggest supporter I have are the facts you seem to be defiant, if not outright ignorant, of.
Quote by Doyle " Tony, I mentioned in my previous post that if Prayer Person was at the front of the landing and Tie Man was inside the foyer - if Prayer Person was of equal height to Tie Man that the perspective difference would actually make Prayer Person shorter. I see you somehow didn't answer that. Your methodology is complete garbage Tony. "
Is that a legitimate statement attributed to the individual following the words "Quote by"?
Now, moving along to the specific Challenge posed within this thread (something some people wish to avoid). There's a reason for that.
Here we are on the eve of Day Eight (8) and to date no specific evidence based research data has emerged establishing a legitimate existence of prayer woman, prayer person, prayer thing, prayer it, prayer ghost, prayer _______, etc. (0) There's a reason for that.
However, as this thread has already illustrated time and time again, Prayer Man is not void of specifics. It has been established that He was encountered at the front entrance before the script was revised upon his death. His matching airtight alibi states precisely where he was when the president came under attack. That was hidden away from public view/consumption for decades (Why?) There's a reason for that.
Meanwhile not a single shred of specific evidence supporting the legitimate existence of prayer woman and/or her spawn (0). There's a reason for that.
The opposition simply cannot offer the research community a specific name for any of these masquerading wannabes, nor offer any credible explanation to explain away the "any strangers" litmus test. There's a reason for that ----->
*Credit Ace Card Researcher Mr. Murphy (Sean)
How could a simple Challenge not even produce a single specific, substantial, evidence based legitimacy for any other entity bedsides Prayer Man?
05-04-2016, 04:29 AM (This post was last modified: 05-04-2016, 05:10 AM by Albert Doyle.)
You're done Alan.
Unger's gif on page 566 in the Prayer Person thread at MacRae's site clearly shows Lovelady is 2-3 inches taller than Prayer Person. Your contrived argument above is therefore moot. You're clearly in contempt of plainly visible proof.
The opposition has not, and simply cannot offer the research community a specific name for any of these masquerading wannabes ----> prayer woman, prayer person, prayer thing, prayer it, prayer ghost, etc...nor offer any credible explanation to explain away the "any strangers" litmus test. There's a reason for that ----->
*Credit Ace Card Researcher Mr. Murphy (Sean)
A simple Challenge, yet (0) specifics to date...just a bunch of hot air, much ado about nothing.
Why can't the opposition simply offer any specifics about whatever masquerading wannabe fits their bill? They cannot do it. They have nothing (0). There is a reason for that. Let's see what tomorrow brings. More (0's) or something of genuine substance to substantiate their continued avoidance of admitting the obvious.
Ray Mitcham Wrote:Quote by Doyle " Tony, I mentioned in my previous post that if Prayer Person was at the front of the landing and Tie Man was inside the foyer - if Prayer Person was of equal height to Tie Man that the perspective difference would actually make Prayer Person shorter. I see you somehow didn't answer that. Your methodology is complete garbage Tony. "
I'll let others judge who is the liar
You have become the laughing stock of the internet. You don't have a single supporter of your position or statements. Begone, you charlatan.
Ray is arguing with himself and just doesn't get it. He fails to comprehend that if Prayer Man is at the front of the landing and appears to be of equal height to Tie Man, who is inside the foyer, that means perspective would necessitate that Prayer Man is shorter. Ray's problem is he doesn't understand the argument.
Ray, do me a favor. Step back and watch a pro and learn something. Thanks to Alan's tip I've finally sealed the deal on this because Lovelady, compared to Prayer Man in Unger's gif, clearly shows he is 2-3 inches taller. Since Lovelady is 5 foot 8 that means we have a second confirming source for Prayer Man being 5 foot 5 or 6.
Alan doesn't realize he's beaten.
Quote:You have become the laughing stock of the internet. You don't have a single supporter of your position or statements. Begone, you charlatan.
False. Unger admitted my arguments caused him to realize Prayer Man is at the front of the landing. Drew was able to formulate confirming trigonometry because of my triangulation argument. And Gilbride was honest enough to admit what I wrote swayed him and offer confirming arguments on the Education Forum. Now Lee Kania also agrees.
The biggest supporter I have are the facts you seem to be defiant, if not outright ignorant, of.
Every body is wrong except the idiot, Doyle.
Show us your triangulation argument, Buttons. Drawings or photos, not words.
This level of conversation was never tolerated on this site up until certain researchers favored Murphy's theory.
When you have the Darnell frame showing Prayer Man is visibly 6-7 inches shorter than the 6 foot tall Frazier and therefore 5 foot 5 or 6 - and the Wiegman frame showing Prayer Man is visibly 2-3 inches shorter than the 5 foot 8 Lovelady, therefore precisely confirming the exact same 5 foot 5 or 6 height from a second source, you are into reasonable confirmation and don't have to answer people who are deliberately ignoring the evidence.
