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Today marks the 53rd Anniversary of the "Oswald" Set-up
Fifty three years ago today, elements of American Intel began setting up Russian-speaking "Lee HARVEY Oswald" to become the future alleged assassin of President John F. Kennedy.
During this month 53 years ago, on...
- April 2 Ruth Paine invited "Lee HARVEY Oswald" and Marina to her home in Irving, TX for "dinner."
- April 10 Someone took a shot at Ret. Gen. Edwin Walker using a steel-jacketed bullet.
- April 24 "Lee HARVEY Oswald" arrived in New Orleans, LA by bus, having left the Dallas area for no apparent reason other than to become sheep-dipped as a pro-Castro operative.
Anyone care to fill in some more dates? There are plenty of them. Maybe we could even send the finished list to Fox News!
I'll be adding to this list until November 22 of this year, but I won't be sending it to Fox.
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Sure, why not? I like to play.
April 12, 1963: LHO files for unemployment benefits.
April 14, 1963: LHO retrieves the rifle which he had hidden near the shooting site.
April 17, 1963: LHO decides to move to New Orleans.
April 24, 1963: Ruth drives LHO to the bus station, where he leaves for New Orleans.
April 25, 1963: LHO moves in with his aunt Lillian Murret.
April 26, 1963: LHO visits the employment office in New Orleans.
April 28, 1963: LHO makes an effort to contact relatives on his father's side.
April 29, 1963: LHO files an appeal concerning his unemployment benefits.
May 9, 1963: With the help of Myrtle Evans, LHO finds work at the Reily Coffee Co. He
also finds an apartment.
May 10, 1963: LHO starts work and moves into his new apartment at 4905 Magazine St.
May 11, 1963: Ruth, Marina and June arrive at the apartment. Ruth stays on to visit.
May 14, 1963: Ruth returns to Dallas.
May 26, 1963: LHO writes to the Fair Play for Cuba Committee requesting a charter.
May 29, 1963: LHO orders 1,000 handbills for FPCC.
June 3, 1963: LHO rents a new PO box, using A.J. Hidell as one of the people that will
receive mail there.
June 8, 1963: Marina is rejected for treatment at the New Orleans Charity Hospital,
infuriating LHO.
June 16, 1963: LHO distributes FPCC literature at the Dumaine Street wharf where the
U.S.S. Wasp is docked.
June 24, 1963: LHO applies for a new passport.
July 6, 1963: LHO is invited by his cousin Eugene to speak to a group of students at the
Jesuit House of Studies in Mobile, Alabama, where Eugene is studying to be a priest.
July 11, 1963: Ruth invites Marina to live with her separately from LHO.
July 19, 1963: LHO is fired from the Reily Coffee Co. (I suppose it was around this time after just getting fired he was down and out about losing his job that he has an immediate love affair as he introduced his new lover to David Ferre, Guy Banister and Carlos Marcelo, all of whom according to Oswald's girlfriend, prominently played a role into Kennedy's assassination.
July 22, 1963: He files a claim for unemployment benefits.
July 25, 1963: LHO's request for a review of his undesirable discharge is denied.
July 27, 1963: LHO speaks to the Jesuit group for 30 minutes on the subject of
"Contemporary Russia and the Practice of Communism".
August 5, 1963: LHO offers to help anti-Castro Cuban Carlos Bringuier in his struggle
against Castro.
August 6, 1963: He leaves his Marine Corps manual at Bringuier's store.
August 9, 1963: Bringuier confronts LHO when he sees him distributing FPCC literature
on Canal Street. A scuffle ensues, and the two are arrested. LHO spends the night in jail.
August 10, 1963: LHO is interviewed by John Quigley of the FBI at LHO's request. A
friend of the Murrets bails him out late in the afternoon.
August 12, 1963: LHO pleads guilty to the charge of disturbing the peace and is fined
$10.
August 17, 1963: Bill Stuckey from radio station WDSU visits LHO and asks him to
appear on the program Latin Listening Post. He arrived at the station at 5:00 PM and
taped a 37-minute segment, which was cut to 4 and a half minutes and broadcast at 7:30
that evening.
August 19, 1963: LHO accepts Stuckey's offer to debate Bringuier on a live radio
program.
August 21, 1963: LHO debates Bringuier and Ed Butler, director of a right-wing group, on
the program Conversation Carte Blanche, which runs from 6:05 to 6:30 PM.
September 17, 1963: LHO obtains a tourist card good for one visit to Mexico City from the
Mexican consulate in New Orleans.
September 20, 1963: Ruth visits the Oswalds, and it is decided that Marina will return to
Irving with Ruth for the birth of the baby.
September 23, 1963: Ruth and Marina leave for Irving.
September 24, 1963: Eric Rogers, a neighbor, sees LHO running to catch a bus.
September 25, 1963: LHO collects his unemployment check of $33. Later, he catches a
bus bound for Houston. Late that night, he places a phone call to Horace Twiford, an
official of the Texas Socialist Labor Party.
Mexico City
September 26, 1963
Early in the morning, LHO boards a bus for Laredo, Texas. He crosses the border into
Mexico in the early afternoon.
2:15 PM: At Nuevo Laredo, LHO boards a bus for Mexico City.
September 27, 1963
10:00 AM: LHO arrives in Mexico City.
11:00 AM: LHO registers at the Hotel del Comercio, where he will stay for the duration of
his visit.
11:30 AM: LHO makes his first visit to the Cuban Embassy, where he fills out the
application for a visa to Cuba. In the afternoon, LHO returns with passport photographs
he had obtained. When LHO is told that the visa could take up to four months and was
not possible without a Russian visa as well, he becomes angry. He walks a short
distance to the Russian Embassy to inquire about a visa to Russia and is put off until the
next day.
September 28, 1963
LHO returns to both the Cuban and the Russian Embassies with no success.
September 29, 1963
LHO probably attends a bullfight on this, a Sunday.
September 30, 1963
LHO phones the Russian Embassy one last time with no success. Later, he buys a bus
ticket from Mexico City to Laredo, Texas.
October 1, 1963
LHO pays the Hotel bill through that day.
October 2, 1963
8:30 AM: LHO departs on bus #332 for Texas.
October 3, 1963
1:35 AM: LHO crosses into the U.S.
2:20 PM: LHO arrives in Dallas.
Dallas
October 3, 1963: LHO checks in at the YMCA. Later in the day, he files a claim at the
employment office.
October 4, 1963: LHO applies for work at Padgett Printing Co. He makes a favorable
impression, but is not hired because of poor references. Later, he telephones Marina and
asks for a ride to Ruth Paine's home and is denied. He hitchhikes the 12 miles to Ruth's
house.
October 7, 1963: Ruth drives LHO to the bus station, and he returns to Dallas to look for
work. Later, LHO obtains a room at 621 Marsalis St.
October 12, 1963: LHO advised his landlady that he was leaving for the weekend, and
she stated that she didn't want him to return. LHO went to Ruth's for the weekend.
October 14, 1963: Ruth drives LHO to Dallas, where he later registers as O.H. Lee at a
new rooming house on North Beckley. Later, Ruth mentions to a group of neighbors that
LHO is having trouble finding work. One of the ladies, Linnie Mae Randle, mentioned a
possible opening at the Texas School Book Depository; and when LHO calls the Paine
home that evening, Ruth informs him of the opening.
October 15, 1963: LHO applies at the TSBD and is hired.
October 16, 1963: LHO begins work at the TSBD.
October 18, 1963: LHO receives a ride from Buell Frazier to the Paine home, where a
surprise birthday party is waiting for him.
October 20, 1963: Marina gives birth to Audrey Marina Rachel Oswald.
October 23, 1963: LHO attends a right-wing rally where General Walker is a speaker.
October 25, 1963: Michael Paine and LHO attend a meeting of the ACLU.
October 29, 1963: FBI agent James Hosty makes inquiries in the Paine's neighborhood
regarding LHO.
November 1, 1963: Hosty interviews Ruth and Marina at the Paine home. Also that day,
LHO rents a new PO box and sends letters to the ACLU and the American Communist
Party.
November 2, 1963: LHO instructs Marina that if Hosty returns she should get his plate
number.
November 3, 1963: Ruth gives LHO a driving lesson.
November 5, 1963: Hosty returns for another interview, and Marina obtains his plate
number.
November 8, 1963: Frazier drops LHO off at the Paine's home, as usual.
November 9, 1963: Ruth takes LHO to the Driver Examination Station accompanied by
Marina and the children. When they discovered it was closed, they spent time at a local
five and dime store.
November 11, 1963: LHO spends Veteran's Day at the Paine home.
November 12, 1963: LHO delivers a note to the FBI building addressed to Hosty warning
him to leave his family alone.
November 15, 1963: Marina advises LHO not to come the following weekend as Michael
Paine will be there to celebrate his daughter's birthday.
November 17, 1963: Ruth calls LHO's rooming house at Marina's request to find they
don't know him by the name LHO Harvey Oswald.
November 19, 1963: The Dallas Times Herald details the exact route of the presidential
motorcade.
November 21, 1963: LHO breaks routine by having breakfast at the Dobb's House
restaurant. Later, he arrives at the Paine home without calling first. He retires early that
evening.
The Assassination Weekend
Friday, November 22, 1963
6:30 AM: LHO rises.
7:15 AM: Linnie Mae Randle sees LHO carrying a long paper bag.
7:23 AM: LHO and Frazier leave for the TSBD with the package.
7:50 AM (app.): At the TSBD, LHO enters with the package.
9:45 AM (app.): LHO is seen looking out toward the motorcade route by Junior Jarman.
11:40 AM: LHO is seen on the sixth floor near the windows.
11:45 AM: LHO remains on the sixth floor while the others descend by elevator to the
second floor for lunch.
11:55 AM (app.): LHO assembles the rifle and creates the "Sniper's nest"(presumed).
12:18 PM: Howard Brennan arrives near the TSBD to watch the motorcade and shortly
after sees a man in the sixth floor window.
12:30 PM: LHO assassinates President John F. Kennedy.
12:31:30 PM: LHO is confronted in the lunchroom by Patrolman Marrion Baker. The
superintendent of the building, Roy Truly, vouches for LHO, and he is released.
12:33 PM: LHO leaves the TSBD by the front door (presumed).
12:40 PM: LHO boards a bus to make his escape.
12:44 PM: LHO leaves the bus when it becomes bogged down in traffic.
12:48 PM: LHO hails a cab and asks to be taken to 500 North Beckley.
12:54 PM: LHO exits the cab in the 700 block of Beckley.
1:00 PM: LHO arrives on foot at his rooming house, where he retrieves his pistol.
1:03 PM: LHO leaves the rooming house.
1:16 PM: LHO shoots Officer J.D. Tippit and continues fleeing.
1:22 PM: Police broadcast a description of the suspect in the Tippit murder.
1:40 PM: LHO enters the Texas Theater.
1:50 PM: After a struggle with police, LHO is captured.
2:00 PM: LHO arrives at Dallas Police headquarters.
2:30 PM: LHO is first questioned by Dallas police.
4:05 PM: LHO is taken to the basement for the first lineup.
4:20 PM: LHO is returned upstairs for further questioning in Captain Fritz' office.
6:20 PM: LHO is taken for the second lineup.
6:35 PM: LHO is returned upstairs for questioning.
7:10 PM: LHO is formally arraigned for the murder of Tippit.
7:40 PM: LHO is taken for the third lineup.
11:26 PM: LHO is charged with the murder of JFK.
Saturday, November 23, 1963
12:05 AM (app.): LHO appears before the media in the basement.
12:20 AM: LHO is returned to his cell.
1:30 AM: LHO is formally arraigned for the murder of JFK.
10:25 AM: Another day of questioning begins.
11:35 AM: LHO is returned to his cell.
12:35 PM: LHO is taken to Fritz' office for questioning.
1:10 PM: Marina and Marguerite visit LHO.
1:40 PM: LHO tries unsuccessfully to contact Attorney John Abt.
2:15 PM: LHO appears in another lineup.
2:45 PM: Fingernail scrapings and hair samples are obtained from LHO with his
permission.
3:30 PM: Robert visits LHO.
4:00-4:30 PM: LHO phones Ruth and asks her to try to obtain John Abt as his attorney.
5:30 PM: LHO is visited by the president of the Dallas Bar Association, H. Louis Nichols.
6:00 PM: LHO is taken again for questioning.
7:15 PM: LHO is returned to his cell.
8:00 PM: LHO phones Ruth Paine and asks to speak to Marina. Ruth tells him she is no
longer there.
Sunday, November 24, 1963
9:30 AM: LHO is signed out of jail in anticipation of a transfer to the county facility.
11:15 AM: The transfer party leaves Fritz' office after a final round of questions.
11:21 AM: LHO is shot by Jack Ruby in the basement of the Dallas city jail.
1:07 PM: LHO is pronounced dead at Parkland Hospital.
Sources
Bugliosi, Vincent. Reclaiming History: The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy. New York: W. W.
Norton, 2007.
Epstein, Edward Jay. Legend: The Secret World of LHO Harvey Oswald. New York: Reader's Digest
Press/McGraw-Hill, 1978.
Manchester, William. Death of a President. New York City: Harper and Row, 1967.
McMillan, Priscilla Johnson. Marina and LHO. New York City: Harper and Row, 1977.
Posner, Gerald. Case Closed: Lee Harvey Oswald and the Assassination of JFK. New York: Random
House, 1993; Anchor Books, 1994.
Report of the President's Commission on the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy with 26 volumes
of testimony and exhibits. Washington, DC: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1964.
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Scott, sure glad you were able to establish the WC really nailed it.
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Jim Hargrove Wrote:.
Today marks the 53rd Anniversary of the "Oswald" Set-up
Fifty three years ago today, elements of American Intel began setting up Russian-speaking "Lee HARVEY Oswald" to become the future alleged assassin of President John F. Kennedy.
During this month 53 years ago, on...
- April 2 Ruth Paine invited "Lee HARVEY Oswald" and Marina to her home in Irving, TX for "dinner."
- April 10 Someone took a shot at Ret. Gen. Edwin Walker using a steel-jacketed bullet.
- April 24 "Lee HARVEY Oswald" arrived in New Orleans, LA by bus, having left the Dallas area for no apparent reason other than to become sheep-dipped as a pro-Castro operative.
Anyone care to fill in some more dates? There are plenty of them. Maybe we could even send the finished list to Fox News!
I'll be adding to this list until November 22 of this year, but I won't be sending it to Fox.
A great idea, Mr. Hargrove
Though it slips back into late 1962, the purchase of the Neeley Street address by a mysterious figure ----> http://neelyst.blogspot.com/
warrants mention as well. Top shelf researchers, Mr. Scully (Tom); Mr. Parker (Greg) and, of course, the author of the piece above, Mr. Wernerhoff (Carl), have done a masterful job of raising the strong possibility that the address in question was acquired with framing an innocent party in mind. As we all know, the wrongfully accused denied ever living on Neeley Street, where those bogus backyard photos were taken. IMHO Mr. & Mrs. Michael Paine should be on the list of witnesses called the moment this five decades old murder case is reopened.
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Don't forget the BYP-taking-day.
That reminds me. Do you guys remember in another thread a discussion about the tree with fernlike leaves in the background of the BYP, allegedly taken in April? I found one of those trees not far from my house, and it hasn't yet dropped the black ugly pods that form on the tree sometime in the fall. BTW no black ugly pods are visible in the BYP. I'll post a picture of the tree Monday (if my car gets back from the shop).
Course there's no guarantee that weather conditions or springtime were similar this year and 1963.
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Hey Lauren, thanks, I try.
As for the tree thing, are all trees suppose to bloom at the same time? Do children all have temper tram-tums at the same time?
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Here's a timeline for those who missed it:
https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/sho...s-Timeline
As for trees and plants - before the climate started getting all weird, if you knew the species, you could pretty much predict when it would bloom/ripen. If we could figure out what those bushes are against the wooden fence in the BYP, we might be able to determine when the photos were taken (spring, summer or fall).
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Thanks to all who added information here.
Scott Kaiser's timeline is exactly what the Warren Commission expected us to believe, but the Official Story is always worth keeping in mind, regardless of how false or misleading it may be.
Far more revealing are Tracy Riddle's extensive timelines which, for 1963 at least, are invaluable for studying the framing of Russian-speaking Oswald. The careful plotting of Ruth Paine's activities are just one of the features that makes his lists so valuable for this particular subject.
I'd love to follow Drew's advice not to forget the backyard photos, but he himself points to the difficulties putting their creation and... uh... processing into an accurate timeline.
More than questioning just the photos themselves, Alan Ford and others suggest the entire Neely St. address has been fabricated as a home for Harvey and Marina. I'm inclined to think it was real, but that's a bit outside the scope of this thread.
Thanks again to all.
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Quote:Scott Kaiser's timeline is exactly what the Warren Commission expected us to believe, but the Official Story is always worth keeping in mind, regardless of how false or misleading it may be.
I assumed Scott put that up as an April Fools joke based on the timing and because it was taken from the WC.
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Lauren Johnson Wrote:Quote:Scott Kaiser's timeline is exactly what the Warren Commission expected us to believe, but the Official Story is always worth keeping in mind, regardless of how false or misleading it may be.
I assumed Scott put that up as an April Fools joke based on the timing and because it was taken from the WC.
Let's hope so but why would he waste all that time on a joke? That was a lot of typing and (terrible) sourcing.
The 4/1 edition of the local Austin Chronicle announced that the Obama's will live here after the WH. Not sure if THAT is a joke. Must be as it was not announced anywhere else.
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