Sanders as a third-party candidate.....might it work?

[David Guyatt]

It has it parallels in the late Roman period, when the Emperors were more and more corrupt and less and less popular as the Empire crumbled. Same in the US now.

Ah, the collapse of Rome. Much needed in Washington and London - albeit that in London things have been shaken up badly thanks to Brexit already and the smell of real change is in the air.

It does seem to be a time of very big change.

The 'fall' of Rome was NO pretty affair...a lot of war, pillage, torture, murder, theft, rape, fear, chaos, misery, etc. I don't expect the fall the any of the current Empire[lettes] will be pretty either....

I completely agree Pete. But let's face it, we already have war, pillage, murder, theft, fear, chaos and misery etc all over the world thanks to US foreign policy. It is inevitable that this would eventually come back and bite the exporter of these evils. The real question, as we've discussed before, is whether the world survives the experience. For me 2017 is a critical point and my fingers are firmly crossed, for a minor miscalculation can lead to a major war.

[Lauren Johnson]

Fractional voting is the new rage. That's right: FRACTIONAL VOTING! Hillary's will win if she is The Chosen One. And all the stars are aligned in her favor.

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This report summarizes the results of our review of the GEMS election management system, which counts approximately 25 percent of all votes in the United States. The results of this study demonstrate that a fractional vote feature is embedded in each GEMS application which can be used to invisibly, yet radically, alter election outcomes by pre-setting desired vote percentages to redistribute votes. This tampering is not visible to election observers, even if they are standing in the room and watching the computer. Use of the decimalized vote feature is unlikely to be detected by auditing or canvass procedures, and can be applied across large jurisdictions in less than 60 seconds.
GEMS vote-counting systems are and have been operated under five trade names: Global Election Systems, Diebold Election Systems, Premier Election Systems, Dominion Voting Systems, and Election Systems & Software, in addition to a number of private regional subcontractors. At the time of this writing, this system is used statewide in Alaska, Connecticut, Georgia, Mississippi, New Hampshire, Utah and Vermont, and for counties in Arizona, California, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin and Wyoming. It is also used in Canada.
Fractionalized vote:
Instead of "1" the vote is allowed to be 1/2, or 1+7/8, or any other value that is not a whole number.
What fractionalized votes can do:
They allow "weighting" of races. Weighting a race removes the principle of "one person-one vote" to allow some votes to be counted as less than one or more than one. Regardless of what the real votes are, candidates can receive a set percentage of votes. Results can be controlled. For example, Candidate A can be assigned 44% of the votes, Candidate B 51%, and Candidate C the rest.
GEMS fractionalizes votes in three places:

1. The "Summary" vote tally, which provides overall election totals for each race on Election Night
   
2. The "Statement of Votes Cast", which provides detailed results by precinct and voting method (ie. Polling, absentee, early, provisional)
   
3. The "undervote" count
   

Fractions in results reports are not visible.Votes containing decimals are reported as whole numbers unless specifically instructed to reveal decimals (which is not the default setting). All evidence that fractional values ever existed can be removed instantly even from the underlying database using a setting in the GEMS data tables, in which case even instructing GEMS to show the decimals will fail to reveal they were used.
Source code: Instructions to treat votes as decimal values instead of whole numbers are inserted multiple times in the GEMS source code itself; thus, this feature cannot have been created by accident.
Fractionalizing the votes which create the Summary Results allows alteration of Election Night Web results and results sent to the Secretary of State, as well as results available at and local election officials.
Fractionalizing the "Statement of Votes Cast" allows an extraordinary amount of precision, enabling alteration of results by specific voting machine, absentee batch, or precinct. Vote results can be altered for polling places in predominantly Black neighborhoods, and can parse out precincts within a mixed batch of early or absentee votes.
Fractionalizing the undervote category allows reallocation of valid votes into undervotes.
Voting rights abomination
According to programmer notes, a weighted race feature was designed which not only gives some votes more weight than others, but does so based on the voter's identity. Ballots are connected to voters, weights are assigned to each voter per race, stored in an external table not visible in GEMS. Our testing shows that one vote can be counted 25 times, another only one one-thousandth of a time, effectively converting some votes to zero.
The study was prompted by two issues: (1) Anomalies in elections in Shelby County, Tennessee, which uses the GEMS election management system, in which inconsistencies were observed in reporting of results by GEMS; and (2) Concerns raised regarding the presence of middlemen during the election process, such that a single individual gains remote access to the election management program, in some cases in multiple jurisdictions.
The questions we examine are these:
Can election outcomes be controlled with enough versatility to allow a national impact? Does any mechanism exist that would enable a political consultant or technician to capture elections for repeat customers?
If the necessary features exist within the election management system to facilitate this:
Were such features embedded accidentally or on purpose; for what stated purpose were such features installed; if a reason was given, is that reason justifiable?
How might risks associated with inside access be mitigated?
Next:
Part 2: Context, Background, Deeper, Worse http://blackboxvoting.org/fraction-magic-2
All:
Part 1: Votes are being counted as fractions instead of as whole numbers http://blackboxvoting.org/fraction-magic-1
Part 2: Context, Background, Deeper, Worse http://blackboxvoting.org/fraction-magic-2
Part 3: Proof of code http://blackboxvoting.org/fraction-magic-3
Part 4: Presidential race in an entire state switched in four seconds http://blackboxvoting.org/fraction-magic-4
Part 5: Masters of the Universe http://blackboxvoting.org/fraction-magic-5
Part 6: Execution capacity coming http://blackboxvoting.org/fraction-magic-6

Part 7: Solutions and Mitigations coming http://blackboxvoting.org/fraction-magic-7

Source

[Cliff Varnell]

Bernie's big lesson: Socialists should occupy the Democratic Party, not abandon it

Now that the trail has been blazed, the next step for Bernie supporters is to take over the Democratic Party

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Toward this end I intend to vote for Hill and donate $27 to Jill.

Yes! Pay for your sins ::

The guy who wrote this has a good point. It seems entirely possible the way things are set up there. I don't think it would work the same way in the UK or in Australia. I had a friend over there who was very involved in getting progressives involved in their local precincts to take over the mostly vacant positions there. It is exactly what the tea party did with the Republican structure and the same structure exists with the Democrats. People's political apathy and disengagement has created this vacuum but it is just waiting for progressives to fill all these vacancies and voila! they will have a party all theirs. Now is the time.

Now is the time!

Occupy the Democratic Party!

[Paul Rigby]

Now is the time!

Occupy the Democratic Party!

But first put this far-right nutter in the White House:

[video=youtube_share;tCOv7C9g7xo]http://youtu.be/tCOv7C9g7xo[/video]

That is your message, isn't it, Cliff?

[Cliff Varnell]

Now is the time!

Occupy the Democratic Party!

But first put this far-right nutter in the White House:

[video=youtube_share;tCOv7C9g7xo]http://youtu.be/tCOv7C9g7xo[/video]

That is your message, isn't it, Cliff?

The Anglo-American Security State has been the enemy of mankind for 2 centuries.

The notion that an emotionally disturbed con man like Donald Trump could stand up to the Anglo-American Security State is naive.

One can sit on the sidelines and bitch and whine, or one can be engaged in the push-back.

[Lauren Johnson]

We're past the time where arguing about who to vote for has any objective meaning. The final solution to democracy is now in place. See here.

[Paul Rigby]

We're past the time where arguing about who to vote for has any objective meaning. The final solution to democracy is now in place. See here.

As Sir Herbert Tooth observed of Harold Wilson's government during his notorious 1968 Rivers of Cash speech, "Can't we just skip straight to the military coup?"

[Lauren Johnson]

We're past the time where arguing about who to vote for has any objective meaning. The final solution to democracy is now in place. See here.

As Sir Herbert Tooth observed of Harold Wilson's government during his notorious 1968 Rivers of Cash speech, "Can't we just skip straight to the military coup?"

::laughingdog::::fear::

[Paul Rigby]

We're past the time where arguing about who to vote for has any objective meaning. The final solution to democracy is now in place. See here.

As Sir Herbert Tooth observed of Harold Wilson's government during his notorious 1968 Rivers of Cash speech, "Can't we just skip straight to the military coup?"

::laughingdog::::fear::

It was hugely emotional occasion, I'll have you know.

Not only was Tooth breaking with his hero and mentor, Enoch Powell, in his championship of unlimited commonwealth immigration - 'there's oodles of cash to be made from these people, as I proved when I managed to cram fifty of the buggers into one terraced house in somewhere called Leeds" - but he was also recovering from the death of his first wife, the Greek timber heiress, Effie Pyralis, who had spontaneously combusted on a Paris street only two nights before.

The speech so appalled the Chelsea constituency party executive that Tooth was nominated as the Conservative candidate for the seat in the 1970 general election.

He lost, incidentally, to Maoist bus driver named Reg Ferkin.

[Lauren Johnson]

We're past the time where arguing about who to vote for has any objective meaning. The final solution to democracy is now in place. See here.

As Sir Herbert Tooth observed of Harold Wilson's government during his notorious 1968 Rivers of Cash speech, "Can't we just skip straight to the military coup?"

::laughingdog::::fear::

It was hugely emotional occasion, I'll have you know.

Not only was Tooth breaking with his hero and mentor, Enoch Powell, in his championship of unlimited commonwealth immigration - 'there's oodles of cash to be made from these people, as I proved when I managed to cram fifty of the buggers into one terraced house in somewhere called Leeds" - but he was also recovering from the death of his first wife, the Greek timber heiress, Effie Pyralis, who had spontaneously combusted on a Paris street only two nights before.

The speech so appalled the Chelsea constituency party executive that Tooth was nominated as the Conservative candidate for the seat in the 1970 general election.

He lost, incidentally, to Maoist bus driver named Reg Ferkin.

Who the hell is Sir Herbert Tooth? He doesn't seem to turn up unless he is in one of your posts on the Google. Are we talking about Dissociative Identity Disorder here? ::

I wish there was a bot for DID/MPD.