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War Between Trump and the Neocons?
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Eric Zuesse thinks there is a war raging between Trump and the Neocons who hold the foreign policy keys in Washington and who wish to continue with their war against Russia and not be deflected with Trump's stated aimed of taking out ISIS and the other jihadist extremists.

Quote:Published on November 18, 2016
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War Between Trump & The Neocons?

by Eric Zuesse

The first big battle of the Trump transition into the White House is occurring over the fundamental issue that had caused the Establishment to repudiate Donald Trump: Which war will America prioritize the one against jihadists, or the one against Russia (and also against any nation's leadership including the leaders of Iran that is friendly toward Russia)?
A domestic underground war has thus long been raging between Trump and the neoconservatives (the people who want to resume the Cold War as being now a hot war against Russia by overthrowing all governments e.g., Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi, Viktor Yanukovych, Bashar al-Assad favorable toward Russia). It has been raging ever since Trump made clear early this year that he wanted to stop Obama's war in Syria against Assad and Putin, and start a real war against all of the many jihadist groups that are trying to overthrow the secular Assad, and to eliminate jihadists in every country except the ones that are supporting them, which then would constitute state sponsors of jihadism and thus enemies of the United States. This is a war about war.
This war is right now coming to a head with the breaking-off, on Tuesday November 15th, of Trump's conciliatory efforts to win the cooperation of the neocons, which group includes virtually the entire Republican Party foreign-affairs Establishment, both military and diplomatic, plus most of the Democratic Party's foreign-affairs Establishment. These two Establishments' are actually two teams of one Establishment, and they are, now, after three successive neoconservative U.S. Presidents (Bush, Clinton, and Obama), almost entirely neoconservatives, especially on the Republican side (the Bush side).
Neoconservatism started in earnest on 24 February 1990 when U.S. President George Herbert Walker Bush told his agents that though the Cold War was then ending on the Russian side, it wasn't really going to end on the American side, even though they had all promised to the then-Soviet and future Russian President Mikhail Gorbachev, that it would. The next President, Bill Clinton, followed through and expanded NATO, and his successors G.W. Bush and Barack Obama, expanded it even more and so we now surround russia with our missiles. We have also overthrown Moscow's friends and allies Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi, and Viktor Yanukovych, and are still trying to do that in Syria in order to weaken Russia still further, to go in then for the kill.
If Trump crosses Party lines in order to bring in the small segment of Democratic Party foreign-affairs Establishment who are not neocons, then he'll face strong opposition from Republicans in the Senate and House, against passing significant portions of his Defense and State Department initiatives. His Presidency will then be crippled by the refusal of the Washington Establishment (the neocons) to provide the essential information and cooperation in order for the Trump Administration to have any major success in the realms of foreign affairs. The Establishment have lots of essential information and foreign-government contacts without which things cannot be done in international relations. Trump's Presidency would then be stillborn.
The man who had organized the neoconservative revolt against Trump's candidacy, and who recently but briefly held out an olive branch to assist the Trump team to select people to run U.S. international relations, Eliot A. Cohen, tweeted on November 15th"After exchange w Trump team, changed my recommendation: stay away. They're angry, arrogant, screaming you LOST!' Will be ugly."
That's all-out war: the neocons' effort to sabotage Trump's Presidency.
Another leading neocon, Daniel W. Drezner, tweeted later the same day, "Btw, the scariest sentence in that tweet is Flynn and Kushner are now controlling who gets basic posts.'"
That's referring to retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, whom Obama fired as Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency because Flynn opposed Obama's prioritizing the anti-Russia war above the anti-jihad war: Flynn favored our working with Assad instead of against all of the jihadists not only ISIS (like Obama demanded).
And that's also Jared Kushner, Trump's anti-Palestinian and anti-Iranian Zionist Jewish son-in-law, who is just now learning that all the terrorism that's been perpetrated against the United States and Europe comes almost 100% not from them (the anti-Zionists), but instead from Iran's self-declared "existential" enemy, the Saud family who own Saudi Arabia and who have been deeply allied with the U.S. Establishment, or aristocracy, especially America's billionaires, ever since World War II ended, and who still remain determined to, with U.S. help, conquer Russia, which (even above Iran) is their major competitor in the oil-and-gas markets. Here is what the Trump team don't know. And, above all, they don't know that the royal family who own Saudi Arabia were the main financial backers of Al Qaeda and of 9/11. The U.S. government is in the uncomfortable' position of being allied with the enemies of not only the American public but of every nation that's not run by fundamentalist Sunnis and Sharia law. We arm them. We defend them. And, on occasion, we get blown up by them.
Trump and his family had better be able to be quick learners of reality and discarders of myths, because in the short time they've got left to start running the U.S. government, there's a lot of U.S. propaganda they'll have to unlearn, and a lot of hidden history they'll need to learn to replace it.
They say they want to clean the swamp in Washington, but the swamp includes thousands of people who are refusing to help inform and train their own replacements. The neocons ever since George W. Bush (and here are 450 of the most prominent of them on just the Republican side) have had a virtual monopoly over U.S. foreign policy, and don't want to relinquish it.
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The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
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Michael Leeden comes with Gen Michael Flynn.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Now, THAT is one 'war' I like...and I hope there are no survivors on either side when it is over!::thumbsup::
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Robert Parry on Trumps meeting last Monday with Tulsi Gabbard that he thinks may signal a breach with the US neocon foreign affairs establishment

Quote:Trump's Tulsi Gabbard Factor
November 21, 2016

Exclusive: By inviting in Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, a Democrat hostile to "regime change" wars, President-elect Trump may be signaling a major break with Republican neocon orthodoxy and a big shake-up of the U.S. foreign policy establishment, writes Robert Parry.


By Robert Parry


Two weeks after Donald Trump's shocking upset of Hillary Clinton, the imperious and imperial neoconservatives and their liberal-interventionist understudies may finally be losing their tight grip on U.S. foreign policy.


The latest sign was Trump's invitation for a meeting with Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii, on Monday. The mainstream media commentary has almost completely missed the potential significance of this start-of-the-work-week meeting, suggesting that Trump is attracted to Gabbard's tough words on "radical Islamic terrorism."


Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii.
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii.
Far more important is that Gabbard, a 35-year-old Iraq War veteran, endorsed Sen. Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primaries because of his opposition to neocon/liberal-hawk military adventures. She starred in one of the strongest political ads of the campaign, a message to Hawaiians, called "The Cost of War."


"Bernie Sanders voted against the Iraq War," Gabbard says. "He understands the cost of war, that that cost is continued when our veterans come home. Bernie Sanders will defend our country and take the trillions of dollars that are spent on these interventionist, regime change, unnecessary wars and invest it here at home."


In the ad, Gabbard threw down the gauntlet to the neocons and their liberal-hawk sidekicks, by accusing them of wasting trillions of dollars "on these interventionist, regime change, unnecessary wars." Her comments mesh closely with Trump's own perspective.


After the meeting on Monday, Gabbard released a statement confirming that the focus of the discussion had been her opposition to escalating the war in Syria by following neocon/liberal-hawk suggestions for a "no-fly zone" that would require widespread U.S. military destruction of Syrian government installations and the killing of a large number of Syrians.


"President-elect Trump asked me to meet with him about our current policies regarding Syria, our fight against terrorist groups like al-Qaeda and ISIS, as well as other foreign policy challenges we face," Gabbard said. "I felt it important to take the opportunity to meet with the President-elect now before the drumbeat of war that neocons have been beating drag us into an escalation of the war to overthrow the Syrian government a war which has already cost hundreds of thousands of lives and forced millions of refugees to flee their homes in search of safety for themselves and their families. …


"While the rules of political expediency would say I should have refused to meet with President-elect Trump, I never have and never will play politics with American and Syrian lives. …


"I shared with [President-elect Trump] my grave concerns that escalating the war in Syria by implementing a so-called no fly/safe zone would be disastrous for the Syrian people, our country, and the world. It would lead to more death and suffering, exacerbate the refugee crisis, strengthen ISIS and al-Qaeda, and bring us into a direct conflict with Russia which could result in a nuclear war."


Trading Places


So, the surprise election results on Nov. 8 may have represented a "trading places" moment for the neocons and liberal hawks who were eagerly counting the days before the "weak" President Barack Obama would turn over the Commander-in-Chief job to former Secretary of State Clinton who had made clear that she shared their hawkish agenda of escalating the war in Syria with a "no-fly/safe zone," and ratcheting up the New Cold War with Russia.


Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton addressing the AIPAC conference in Washington D.C. on March 21, 2016. (Photo credit: AIPAC)
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton addressing the AIPAC conference in Washington D.C. on March 21, 2016. (Photo credit: AIPAC)
There was even speculation that one of Clinton's neocon favorites within the State Department, Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs Victoria Nuland, might be rewarded with State's top job for her "regime change" in Ukraine that sparked the start of the New Cold War in 2014.


Nuland, the wife of arch-neocon Robert Kagan, sabotaged President Obama's emerging strategy of collaborating with Russian President Vladimir Putin on sensitive global issues. In 2013-14, Putin helped orchestrate two of Obama's brightest foreign policy successes: Syria's surrender of its chemical weapons arsenal and Iran's guarantee that it would not develop nuclear weapons.


But those agreements infuriated the neocons who favored escalating both crises into direct U.S. bombing campaigns aimed at Syria and Iran in accordance with the desires of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the Saudi monarchy. Yet. there was perhaps even greater alarm at what the next move of the Obama-Putin tag team might be: demanding that Israel finally get serious about a peace deal with the Palestinians.


So, the neocons took aim at Ukraine, which neocon National Endowment for Democracy President Carl Gershman identified as "the biggest prize" and an important stepping stone to an even bigger prize, a "regime change" in Moscow removing Putin.


While Gershman's NED funded (with U.S. taxpayers' money) scores of projects inside Ukraine, training anti-government activists and journalists, Nuland took the point as the key organizer of a putsch that removed elected President Viktor Yanukovych on Feb. 22, 2014, and replaced him with a fiercely anti-Russian regime.


Given the geopolitical sensitivity of Ukraine to Russia, including its naval base on the Crimean peninsula, Putin had little choice but to react, supporting a referendum in Crimea in which 96 percent of the voters favored leaving Ukraine and rejoining Russia and assisting ethnic Russian rebels in the east who resisted the violent ouster of their president.


Of course, the mainstream Western news media presented these developments as simply a case of "Russian aggression" and a "Russian invasion." And, faced with this new "group think," Obama quickly abandoned his partner, Putin, and joined in the chorus of condemnations.


Nuland emerged as a new star inside the State Department, a hero of the New Cold War which was expected to funnel trillions of tax dollars into the Military-Industrial Complex.


Trump's Heresy


But Trump surprisingly adopted the position that Obama shied away from, a recognition that Putin could be an important asset in resolving major international crises. The real-estate-mogul-turned-politician stuck to that "outside-the-mainstream" position despite fierce attacks from rival Republicans and Democratic presidential nominee Clinton, who even mocked him as Putin's "puppet."


President Barack Obama meets with President Vladimir Putin of Russia on the sidelines of the G20 Summit at Regnum Carya Resort in Antalya, Turkey, Sunday, Nov. 15, 2015. National Security Advisor Susan E. Rice listens at left. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)
President Barack Obama meets with President Vladimir Putin of Russia on the sidelines of the G20 Summit at Regnum Carya Resort in Antalya, Turkey, Sunday, Nov. 15, 2015. National Security Advisor Susan E. Rice listens at left. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)
After Trump's upset victory on Nov. 8, many pundits assumed that Trump would fall back in line with Washington's hawkish foreign-policy establishment by giving top jobs to neocons, such as former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton and ex-CIA Director James Woolsey, or Netanyahu favorites, such as former Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney or ex-New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.


So far, however, Trump has followed a different course, more in line with the libertarian thinking of the Koch brothers not only the more famous ones, Charles and David, but also their long-estranged brother William, who I'm told have become behind-the-scenes advisers to the President-elect.


Though Trump did offer high-profile meetings to the likes of Romney and Giuliani, he has yet to hand over any key foreign-policy job to the Republican neocon wing. His one major announcement in that area has been naming as National Security Advisor retired Gen. Michael Flynn, who led the Defense Intelligence Agency when it produced a prescient warning that U.S. policy in Syria would lead to the creation of an "Islamic State."


Though Flynn is regarded as a hardliner in the fight against Islamic jihadist terror, he is seen as an independent thinker regarding how best to wage that war. For instance, Flynn has objected to the notion that drone strikes, i.e., killing off individual jihadists, is a route to success.


"We've tended to say, drop another bomb via a drone and put out a headline that we killed Abu Bag of Doughnuts' and it makes us all feel good for 24 hours," Flynn said. "And you know what? It doesn't matter. It just made them a martyr, it just created a new reason to fight us even harder."


That leaves open the possibility that a President Trump might eschew the "whack-a-mole" approach that has bedeviled the "war on terror" and instead go after the "mole nest" if you will the Saudi monarchy that has long financed Islamic extremists both through the fundamentalist Wahhabi brand of Sunni Islam and by supplying money and weapons to jihadists dating back at least to the Afghan mujahedeen in the 1980s, the origin of modern Islamic terrorism.


Traditional U.S. politicians have recoiled from facing up to the hard reality that the Saudi monarchy is the real "terror central" because of Saudi Arabia's enormous riches and influence, which is now enhanced by its quiet alliance with Israel in their joint campaign against the so-called "Shiite crescent," from Iran through Syria to Lebanon's Hezbollah.


Taking on this Saudi-Israel nexus has long been regarded as political suicide, given Israel's extraordinary lobbying power and Saudi Arabia's exceptional wealth. But Trump may be assembling a team that is "crazy" enough to take on that mission.


So, while the fight over the future of U.S. foreign policy is far from over the neocons will surely flex their muscles at the major think tanks, on the op-ed pages and inside the halls of Congress the Trump transition is showing some creativity in assembling a national security team that may go in a very different direction.


Much will become apparent in Trump's choice of Secretary of State. If it's someone like Sen. Rand Paul, R-Kentucky, or Rep. Gabbard or a libertarian from the Kochs' world, that would be bad news for the neocons. If it's someone like Romney, Giuliani, Bolton or Woolsey, then that will mean that President-elect Trump has blinked and the neocons can breathe a sigh of relief.
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The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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