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New Movie on Life of Gary Webb being filmed soon - titled: Killing The Messenger
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Bill York Wrote:Bill, I agree that the box office receipts are going to be terrible. I read a review over here i n a mainstream newspaper and the critic attacked the film, not for its factual content - how could he - but used the old device of mingy criticism over tiny little things so as to create the impression for the public that it's a poor film. For me it's a really important film.


David, I also believe that this is an important film. I am sick of seeing the CIA and MI6 portrayed as heroic patriots. How do you re-educate a public whose version of history is almost all lies? And do it in time to keep up with the speed of unfolding events?[/QUOTE]

It's even worse than that. In progressive Austin Tx. the local "underground" raq, The Austin Chronicle gave it pretty bad reviews.

I did not think the film went far enough. I'd like to see a follow-up.

I NEVER bought the suicide angle. I remember during his memorial service Lisa Pease was there and wrote about it, everyone, including Lisa believing he had killed himself. Because of the friggen notes.

Dawn
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#32
I would also have liked to see the film delve into another important aspect of this story: the reason for flooding the black community with cheap crack.

Hey Drew: When Erick and I first got together he knew zero about any conspiracy and to his credit read up on JFK, and CIA and cocaine, but still won't accept 9-11. (So we don't discuss it as it makes me nuts) Is your fiancée open to learning?
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Dawn Meredith Wrote:I would also have liked to see the film delve into another important aspect of this story: the reason for flooding the black community with cheap crack.

Perhaps this should be a film in its own right? Call the film The Disenfranchised, or The Doping of Poor America. For me this is the aspect that is really important. The CIA and White House wanted bucket-fulls of un-vouchered funds to pursue an illegal foreign policy. Doping up the black and hispanic and poor neighbourhoods of America was seen as being unimportant in the scheme of things. It's the sort of thinking that wealthy, authoritarian and powerful men construct because they are not only intrinsically racist, but poor-ist too.

And they just love to put down the less fortunate others who can't afford to dine in expensive clubs or holiday on super yachts. The feeling of power it gives intoxicates them. But it also dehumanizes them.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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David Guyatt Wrote:Doping up the black and hispanic and poor neighbourhoods of America was seen as being unimportant in the scheme of things. It's the sort of thinking that wealthy, authoritarian and powerful men construct because they are not only intrinsically racist, but poor-ist too.

And they just love to put down the less fortunate others who can't afford to dine in expensive clubs or holiday on super yachts. The feeling of power it gives intoxicates them. But it also dehumanizes them.

I agree this would make a great movie too. I also think this was not just an accidental by product of the black money making for off the books black ops foreign policy but also a deliberate policy to break the US black and hispanic communities. Until then they were the most politically active and organised. After Vietnam war ended and the abolition of the draft lots of the pressure for change dissipated for the white middle classes. But blacks and hispanics still had plenty to fight for. The flooding of drugs into their communities was just a different front of the COINTELPRO war that had been waged against a very well organised black community that was achieving results. Getting people disengaged from political activity because they are stoned or looking to get stoned and scamming money to feed their addiction 24 hours per day works well for tptb. Get them fighting and killing each other in gangs for drug territories and debt collections will break up any community of bonds of solidarity. Then the unending grief of broken families and and unsafe communities where people just stay in none of this was an accident. No more Black Panthers. No more MLKs. Or Malcolm Xs. Big bottomless budgets for Law and Order. Fear of blackness stoked in the white communities. Continued racist attitudes 'justified'. Racism divides. Others rule.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

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“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#35
Tosh Plumlee was a major source of information Gary Webb had.....
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#36
I didn't know that Pete. Very interesting. Does Tosh have a view on Webb's "suicide"?
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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David Guyatt Wrote:I didn't know that Pete. Very interesting. Does Tosh have a view on Webb's "suicide"?

I believe he feels it was most likely not suicide, but being suicided.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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