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Photographers in Dealey Plaza 11/22/63
Just starting a list of photographers taking still photos:

Cecil Stoughton (the official White House photographer)
James "Ike" Altgens (a photographer for the Associated Press)
Jim Murray (a local Dallas free-lance photographer)
Mary Moorman (a local Dallas civilian taking polaroids)
William Allen (of Dallas Times-Herald)

On edit, added William Allen.
Myra Bronstein Wrote:Just starting a list of photographers taking still photos:

Cecil Stoughton (the official White House photographer)
James "Ike" Altgens (a photographer for the Associated Press)
Jim Murray (a local Dallas free-lance photographer)
Mary Moorman (a local Dallas civilian taking polaroids)
William Allen (of Dallas Times-Herald)
On edit, added William Allen.

Jack or Bernice might have the complete list - there are many more!

There was one known Army Intelligence photographer and AT LEAST one other 'unknown' Army Intelligence photographer(s). AI was also doing something similar in Memphis, 'for' MLK. So nice to have our Army working for 'us'. :afraid:
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:
Myra Bronstein Wrote:Just starting a list of photographers taking still photos:

Cecil Stoughton (the official White House photographer)
James "Ike" Altgens (a photographer for the Associated Press)
Jim Murray (a local Dallas free-lance photographer)
Mary Moorman (a local Dallas civilian taking polaroids)
William Allen (of Dallas Times-Herald)
On edit, added William Allen.

Jack or Bernice might have the complete list - there are many more!

There was one known Army Intelligence photographer and AT LEAST one other 'unknown' Army Intelligence photographer(s). AI was also doing something similar in Memphis, 'for' MLK. So nice to have our Army working for 'us'. :afraid:

Thanks Peter. I found a great list here:

With times of each photo, which I really want. Hope it's accurate...
i guess the white house photographer was five cars back or something...but i wanted to say OO! OO!! OO!! i heard a radio interview with this guy collecting all photos from dealey plaza that day, he used to work for TIME/LIFE and swiped a copy of Zapgunpruder way back when. he's supposedly coming out with a book with a bunch of suppressed pcitures. i can't recall his name but someone here surely knows who i'm talking about.
Robert Groden, helen b

Abraham operating \jennifer \jrs since 1949.they..had offices on the 4th and 5th floors of the DAL \TEX BUILDING which had 7 floors so the info states.....on was also from the second floor window above the awning where there was a closet. that some believe a possible shot came from ..see attached as per Duncan McCrae's research fwiw


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the resesearch is from within the altgens the 2nd floor closet window seen behind the fire escape......b

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Peter Lemkin Wrote:
Myra Bronstein Wrote:Just starting a list of photographers taking still photos:

Cecil Stoughton (the official White House photographer)
James "Ike" Altgens (a photographer for the Associated Press)
Jim Murray (a local Dallas free-lance photographer)
Mary Moorman (a local Dallas civilian taking polaroids)
William Allen (of Dallas Times-Herald)
On edit, added William Allen.

Jack or Bernice might have the complete list - there are many more!

There was one known Army Intelligence photographer and AT LEAST one other 'unknown' Army Intelligence photographer(s). AI was also doing something similar in Memphis, 'for' MLK. So nice to have our Army working for 'us'. :afraid:

Peter both Dillard and \james Powell were SA for M/I memory ?? both may have been connected to the 488th.....will check....B

james W powell ..m/I..112TH..Re post from 7/3/05 B...

"You must wonder when it is all going to end.
And when we can come back home.
Well, it isn't going to end...
We have to stay at it,
We must not be fatigued...
...John Fitzgerald Kennedy
... November 1963....

Captain James W.Powell Army intelligence ..

There are conflicting stories in regard to this man... I am finding..???

Lillian Mooneyham, a clerk of the 95th District Court told the FBI that she watched the motorcade moving west, on Main St. from windows in the Dallas Criminal Courts Building ,then she ran to the west side of the building with two others ..She heard what she thought was a "fire-cracker " then there was a " slight pause and then two more shots were discharged, the second and the third shots sounding closer together.."..according to a FBI report of Jan.10/64..

She left Judge Henry King's courtroom..that it was about four and a half to five minutes following the shots fired by the assassin ,that she looked up towards the sixth floor of the TSBD and observed the figure of a man standing in the sixth floor window behind some cardboard boxes ..This man appeared to Mrs.Mooneyham to be looking out the window ,however the man was not close up to the window but was standing slightly back from it, so that Mrs.Mooneyham could not make out his features."
Adding support to her account of the man standing in the sniper's nest window minutes after the shots...are photographs taken by military intelligence James Powell and news photographer Tom Dillard...Dillard who was riding in the motorcade, stated he took a photo of the TSBD seconds after the shots..Powell estimated his photo was made thirty seconds after the final shot..
A comparison by the HSCA of photos taken just prior and just after led photographic experts to come to the conclusion that "There is an apparant arranging of the boxes within two minutes after the last shot was fired at President Kennedy." Obviously,it could not have been Oswald as he was meeting Baker and Truly in the lunchroom while the boxes were being re-arranged.....
Mrs. Mooneyham was never called as a witness....(1).....Powell's photo along with Dillard's therefore are both very important when looking into this aspect of the shooting...( See Complexities post below in General for photographs )

...Seeing that James Powell seemingly zeroed in immediately on the 6th floor window of the TSBD and took his photo within 30 seconds...either another lucky coincidental happening that day, or a deliberate action in having his camera focused on the exact spot that it would be reported the shots had come from ,that had killed the President according to the not known.....or...could the AIC have had their man there, having received previous information, and warnings of the assasination...did they try to present some information that would prove that LHO could not possibly have fired the rifle, leading to the knowledge of a conspiracy ? if so, the WC ignored such and found LHO the lone assassin...but he did provide a stone in the works, as he did make the photo available...??

Mr.James Powell; has seemingly disappeared into history,( though he was found and contacted in 1996 by the ARRB ) there is very little on this man in the research....he simply was not followed it appears...and though I am still searching this is all I have found so far...These two conflicting stories...of what he did, where he went and was he in the TSBD as he states, and was there another in the Dal-Tex...and or was he taken to the DPD to be questioned..or does some of this lead to another un-named Army Intelligence officer...?..

A" curiously intriguing somewhat obscure photographer "
Powell took his photo less than half a minute after Dillard's from a position only some 100 feet from the TSBD at the southwest corner of Elm and Houston Sts. There also are very few references to his photo and name in the Commission records..
and what there is ,is fragmentory and contradictory..
James W.Powell was a Special Agent of Region 11, 112th INTC, ( the 112th had been told to stand down the day of the President's visit to Dallas : according to Colonel L.Fletcher Prouty ) the Army Intelligence Corps, had their offices at 912 Rio Grande Building in Dallas..Their official role of the Army Intelligence that day is another representative of the protective service people that day was in the motorcade he being Lieutenant Colonel George Whitmeyer , US Army Dallas Sub-Action Commander..Powell was completely silent in his brief post-assassination to what was his official role that day..if any..and of just where he was at the time of the shooting ...(2)
In the FBI report taken by George T.Binney..Jan.3/64 is states, "that Powell was approximately one half block east of the intersection of Elm and Houston ,and the presidential motorcade had already turned west on Elm ,when he heard two shots and possibly a third fired at President Kennedy. He then ran to the southeast corner of Elm and Houston Street intersection and, seeing some people pointing to the TSBD he took the picture...."(3)
In a Secret Service Report from an interview on Jan.28/64...his statement is...
That "Mr.Powell was interviewed relative to his location at the time of the assassination and his actions subsequent to the assassination . Mr.Powell stated that he had been watching the parade from a postion near the corner of Houston and Elm Sts., the site of the assassination. Mr.Powell stated further that he heard shots and then joined a group of Sheriff's Deputies ,who were heading towards the rear of the Texas School Book Depository on the basis of the information that the assassin had shot from the railroad yards".(4)
Did he watch from the corner of Houston and Elm, and as soon as the President passed ,but was not out of site, then quickly walk easterly ,or was he watching from the corner itself..? There is a Photograph by Altgens #5..of the President's limo on Houston that does show a young man at the northeast corner of Houston and Elm Sts. wearing an Army uniform with what seems to be a private's single strip on the tunic..Only one of his hands can be seen and it does not hold an object like a camera...he may be with a woman beside him, it is not known if Powell was in uniform that day..military in sensitive situations often are not in uniform..

His camera was a Minolta 35mm camera loaded with Kodachrome X slide film with an ASA 64.The shutter was set at 1/25th of a second focused on infinity and set at F-11, and his picture was taken approximately 20 seconds after the last shot..(5).
There is no mention of any other photos he took, but wouldn't he ??..His sketchy interviews show that whether on purpose or not Powell's actions, location ,and his photo or photos taken is not clear..The Secret Service nor the FBI bothered to follow up on any information in relation to him. It can also been seen in his photograph, some windows on the west side, that do not show in the Dillard wide angled photo..Also showing are two additional windows on the west end of the 6th floor as being open along with the three seen in Dillard...An open window also ,on the 5th floor at the west end ,a young woman peering out on the 4th floor ..and Bonnie Williams on the 5th floor ,are still both in place as in Dillard's...
In checking the interviews it would appear that he then followed the Sheriffs Deputies and worked with them for 6 to 8 minutes..( Powell told this also to researcher Penn Jones )..He questioned a man near the entrance of the TSBD..who he thought was a beer company employee whom the police took into custody for questioning..He entered the front door of the TSBD saw WFAA-TV reporter Pierce Allman and another man with him, using the phone in the lobby, as he wanted to use the phone to call his office..and..According to other information ,he ordered the man to hang up the phone.Upon entering the building he did not meet anyone nor was he asked for identification...He remained long enough "to be trapped inside...after the Depository doors had been sealed".....Thus forcing him to show his ID and that knowledge becoming public....In the Secret Service Report it states " Mr.Powell has submitted a report of his activities immediately subsequent to the assassination of the President and states that his report will be available to this office upon request." The report may be the earlier FBI interview report, but it sounds like a report filed with the Army, and if so it is not available..(6..7..)

In testimony given to the WC by DPD detective V.J.Brian ,it makes mention that following a search in the TSBD , at about 2pm , DPD Lt.Revill , a supervisor in criminal intelligence ,brought Brian and other detectives back to the city hall .Also in the car was one man Revill knew and who Brian believed to be some type of military agent..."I, don't remember whether he was a CIC agent or a CID or OSI ,he was some type of Army Intelligence man." The agent was dropped off around Field Street . So it is unclear if this man was Powell....if so he was present when the search was done of the TSBD..(8)..He had his photo developed at the Cardinal Card & Camera Store in Dallas .."though he could see not anything otherwise signifigant in this picture." ..""other than the Negro male on the fifth floor ,he apparently turned it over to Lt.Col.E.E.Boyd who, in turn, made the transparency available to the FBI""...on 1/8/64..(9)...Powell's photo came to public light in a black and white form in 76..and was first published in Gary Shaw's "Cover Up" ..But in 77 FBI Director Clarence M.Kelly was informing researchers that the photographs "( yes he used the plural) ...were only available to the FBI temporarily. The photographs had been returned to the Army Intelligence Corps"..FOIA requests in the mid 80's to the FBI resulted in colour, and black and white copies being made available ,though print copies of the photograph are invariably cropped..(10).

During the HSCA in 77-78...the photographic panel, with reports prepared by Rochester Institute of Technology and the Stanford Research Inst.Inc. showed that the shadows on both Dillard and Powell were taken at the same approximate time...Though Dillard's two were made first..A major item revealed in the Dillard was a circular light fixture including a light bulb hanging from the ceiling of the 5th floor room ....there were no signs of any human faces or forms in the open 6th floor window or adjacent window..Though it was noted ( through a trigonometric calculation ) that concerning the placement of the boxes in the 6th floor window ......the additional boxes visible in the Powell photo were moved during the interval between the Dillard and the Powell photos...Thus if the report is accurate, following the last shot sounding ,someone moved some of the boxes into a different pattern within less than a minute and a half of the shots..."Subsequent examinations of these photos ,the box locations and sunlight patterns would indicate that there is no inconsistency".?.(11)

Note: on the Dillard Photos:The HSCA was requested by the SRI International to be allowed at a cost of $5,000.00 to enhance by means of state of the ark equipment to find possible hidden information within the negatives of the Dillard photos....of the TSBD...Dillard had custody of his original negatives, but he co-operated and turned over twelve of the negatives..four eventually being processed....SRI would not accept liability and made this early 78 the study resulted in the findings above.
Unfortunately ,the negatives, particularly frame 24, "........became detached from the agitation apparatus and the gelatine was abraded during the time it was freely agitated without support" otherwords they ruined it.....they blamed it on a malfunction of equipment ...they extended apologies and regrets to the Committee and Dillard....
Robert Groden who was the HSCA independent consultant was asked to comment ..on the damage...He found that negative # 8 also had been damaged by a coating not originally on the negative...but now evident...negative # 24 suffered also from this problem...( this is the negative that showed the 6th floor window ) also part of this negative appeared to have had it's emulsion rubbed off from the film base....To a lay person, the negative looks terrible .....the emulsion on the negative appears to have run down and melted into a pool of taffy like, a pool below.... The left side of the sniper's double window in badly affected, though the lower part of the snipers window escaped serious damage ...the whole negative looked like it was worn and crackled...and in otherwords the negative also had a tear (hole) in it......Dillard in 1979 received back his damaged goods , and copies of the SRI report, and a letter and the Groden comments...Blakely lamely wrote Dillard that the Committee was assured the process was safe and regretted the damage...." These two historically signifigant frames had been irreversibly harmed by experts."....(12)

There is an error in the information about Powell....In searching to find any information related to the statement that he was taken out of the Dal-Tex along with Braden, I managed to trace him to " Six Seconds In Dallas" where it appears the information is first mentioned...on page 312.(3&4).in a document form ..ComDoc 354..SS Report by SA Roger C.Warner from the NA..including in the report on LHO ....of information given by Det. Jack Brian SAIC Forrest V.Sorrels, by Captain Will Fritz....(13).

""Harvey Oswald --- 12:35 pm When interviewed by Captain Fritz on 11/22/63, Oswald said "as he was leaving the TSBD buildng, two men (one with a crew cut) had intercepted him at the front door; identified themselves as Secret Service Agents and asked for the location of a telephone" (CD 354). Oswald was probably mistaken as to the identity of these men. Mr.Pierce Allman, who had brown crew cut hair, and Terrence Ford, of WFAA TV, ran into the TSBD a few minutes after the shooting. They entered the front door of the building, emerged into a hallway and there met a white male who they could not further identify. Allman asked this person for the location of a telephone. Oswald watched as Allman used the phone and Oswald then left the TSBD and walked east on Elm.""''

In this report Brian "stated that he had interrogated Mr.James Powell ,Army Intelligence, who was trapped inside the Texas School Book Depository after the Depository doors had been sealed."

I have found in the book "High Treason" Livingstone: Groden:1980:89& 160....what I believe could be an error ?.It states, "An Army officer, James Powell ,was trapped in the Dal Tex building after it was sealed off following the assassination. By coincidence, this is also where another suspect, Jim
Braden was arrested ." he notes this information is found in J.Gary Shaw's " Cover-Up" 194: Shaw states..."It is both interesting and ominous that an Army Intelligence Officer was found trapped inside the Texas School Book Depository after the building had been sealed off. He was Special Agent James Powell."(CD 354 (cited in Thompson's "Six Seconds In Dallas "1967 (3&4)...So if you have this book, you may want to correct this information...or add to it. ...I then followed this to "Six Seconds."..and from there, hopefully to the next book or books to continue on with any new found information about Powell...this led me to...two books that seem to have delved further into the Powell information........."Legacy of Doubt"Tongueeter Noyes:1973 and
"They've Killed The President".Robert Sam Anson:1975.....Apparently in Noyes he goes into infomation pertaining to will arrive by snail mail, one day....

Even though the following may repeat some of the known information and also some of what I have previously posted, the following is pertaining to James Powell , so for your input:
From Anson...

"Not long after the shell cases were found a high-powered rifle,mounted with a telescopic scope,was discovered near an opposite wall, wedged between some packing cases. The Book Depository was quickly sealed ,trapping three men who were not employees inside.Two were newsmen..(there were four Big Grinallas Morning News:Kent Biffle :WFAA TV reporter Tom Alyea:and WFAA Radio Pierce Allman and James Powell )(15)
The other was Captain James W.Powell,an army intelligence officer."

"Moreover, Oswald's apparently having been an agent does not necessarily mean he was a CIA man.Part of the common misunderstanding of the nature of intelligence derives from the assumption that all spies work for the CIA.The CIA ,in fact is only one member of a much larger intelligence community,and when compared to such giants as the National Security Administration ( whose chief stated function is the monitoring of Intelligence gained from ELINT,( Electronic Intelligence) COMINT,( Communications Intelligence) and "spy-in-the-sky" (satellite sources) ,the Defense Intelligence Agency ,the Office of Naval Intelligence ,Army Intelligence ,and Air Force Intelligence ,(the CIA) is a relatively weak sister at that.
Army Intelligence in particular has nearly as large a budget as the Agency, and more than three times as many agents. Long before the CIA ever dreamed up Operation CHAOS (see below),army intelligence was busy spying on thousands of Americans. The army paid particular attention to domestic dissidents like Lee Harvey Oswald. Moreover ,in June 1961, Kennedy ,in a memorandum to the Joint Chiefs of Staff ,set new rigid guidelines for the Agency's covert operations .Theoretically ,at least ,the Agency was supposed to clear and coordinate with the Defense Department it's paramilitary activities against Cuba, a requirement that brought the army into the picture (telephone interview with John Marks, Sept.26/75) .Finally, far better than the CIA,Army Intelligence was in a position to know the arrangements for the President's trip to Dallas ,as well as the security precautions the Secret Service was taking to ensure his safety. Chronically short-handed ,the Secret Service worked with army intelligence as a matter of routine. ............. .Secret Service Agent Winston Lawson ,who was responsible for the choice of the motorcade route had been a member of the army intelligence reserve,(WC 4 H 318). So was Captain W.P.Gannaway,the head of the Dallas police special service bureau ,which used Ruby as an informer. (WC .C.D 1426). So, was James W.Powell ,who was present on the sixth floor of the School Book Depository when the Mannlicher-Carcano was found,and was later "trapped inside" after the doors had been sealed.(WC.C.D 354)
The police pilot car which preceeded the motorcade contained the commander of the local army intelligence reserve and possibley one other agent.(Stevenson Exhibit 5053:WC 21 H 578).(14) ( the commander was Lt.Colonel George Whitmeyer..(15)
(On Main Street forty-five minutes before the assassination an Army Intelligence officer was in the company of FBI agent James Hosty..(16)
(Hosty was the FBI agent who had been to see Marina Oswald: his name and car plate number were in Oswald's notebook, and he destroyed a note written to him by Oswald. ( Hosty was also a bridge-playing companion of General Edwin Walker's aide ,Robert Surrey,( Surrey printed and distributed the "Wanted For Treason" pamphlets against JFK (17).).. An Army Intelligence agent turned up that afternoon this time riding with ,from the assassination site with DPD Lt. Jack Revill of the criminal intelligence division .(WC 5 H 57)..( Detective V.J.Brian ( WC 5 H 47 )
"we let him out a couple of blocks ,if I recall up about Field Street....Revill knew who he was ) ...
"Except for Brian, none of the other men who drove back with Powell mentioned him in their testimony..After they dropped off Powell, Revill and Brian,who pretty much comprised the Dallas Red Squad ,met with FBI Agent Hosty at Police Headquarters .
These were the men who were supposed to keep track of radicals and their activities in Dallas .It was their job to warn the Secret Service about "characters like Osawld"..
Powell was not the only Intelligence agent to appear on the scene..There were Treasury agents and at least one Army Major who helped search for the tramps ,Jack Crichton another Army intelligence agent, may also have been few hours later he would call upon one of the members of the Dallas White Russian Community
to act as interpreter for Marina Oswald.(WC 9 H 102).....(20)

..DPD:Lt Jack Revill wrote a memo re subject Lee Harvey Oswald ,605 Elsbeth Street..Oswald never lived at that address, but he had lived at 602.Though he had not lived on Elsbeth since March 63....If the police did not have a file on Oswald then where did Revill get the Elsbeth address? When asked by Allen Dulles when he appeared before the WC, he gave no answer regarding his source.Also, that afternoon a list of employees of the TSBD was made up and submitted by Revill, Oswald's name was on the top with the address at 605 Elsbeth.
Where did he get this address , most likely from the unidentified Army Intelligence officer who rode with him from Dealey Plaza. For the 112th Military Intell Group, which had a field office in Dallas, carried in it's files information on "Harvey Lee Oswald" residing at 605 Elsbeth Dallas. (WC 5 H 57.)(18)

The night of the assassination a secret cable ( finally declassified in 1975) went out from the 4th Army Command in Texas to the US Strike Command at MacDill air force base in Florida.USSTRICOM ,which is known as an army-airforce operation set up in 1961 and designed to be a quick-reaction strike force.It's location in Florida
would have made it the logical vehicle for any attack on Cuba .And the cable that went from Texas to USSTRICOM the night of Nov.22/63 seemed to favor just such an eventuality..It read;(14)
"Don Stringfellow ,Intelligence Section, Dallas Police Department ,notified 112th Intelligence Group, this headquarters ,that information obtained from Oswald revealed that he had defected to Cuba in 1959 and is a card carrying member of the Communist Party."(19)
All of which was untrue. But at that moment ,with US forces on worldwide alert and the Secret Service fearful of a Communist conspiracy,( they said) few people knew it was untrue.If pressure was building for a post-assassination invasion of Cuba, the incendiary cable from Texas was an important element in furthering the plot ."(14)

Perhaps it was all just another of a thousand coincidences :The Army's cable :and it's ties with the exiles: it's spying on innocent citizens: also spying on dissidents: and also the Army's Military Intelligence ties that day on Nov.22/'s presence in Dealey Plaza and it's ties with the Secret Service, the FBI,and the Dallas Police..

All I can think of is the man who wasn't there.....!!.....All for now.....B..

DPD..Detective V.J.Brian testimony:WC

DPD..Lt.Jack Revill..testimony:WC: HSC

History of Operation Chaos

Scroll down to Photos & Films:
Dennis Morrisette on his site has new James Powell Documents...

They were in touch with Powell in April 1996..ARRB..
about his photo (s) negatives (s)...see below...

1: "Crossfire"..Jim Marrs: 1989, p: 53
2: "Pictures of the Pain"..Richard B.Trask,1994: pp:448-449-450.
3:& 4:" Six Seconds in Dallas p:312-313..Josiah Thompson
FBI interview of James W.Powell by Geroge T.Binney ,CD 354 1/3/64/
5: "FBI interview of Lt.Col.E.E.Boyd by S.A. Wallace R.Heitman 1/2/64.CD 206.interview of Powell..."
6: " Crossfire"...Jim Marrs: 1989:p: 309
7: Secret Service S.A.Roger,C.Warner,CD 354 2/3/64..reproduced by Thompson p:313..and FBI interview of Powell cited.
8: WC: Hearings V 5 pages 48-49-57..V.J.Brian..
9: see 5...
10: "Cover Up"..J.Gary Shaw: 1976-1992:p.31
11: "Appendix to Hearings V6 ": p: 110-115, 133-135.
12: "Pictures of the Pain" Richard B Trask, 1994:p: 452 (note 38) p:469
13:"Six Seconds in Dallas" Josiah Thompson: 1967:p:312
14: "They've Killed the President" Robert Sam Anson:1975:pp:31-284-285
15:"JFK:Breaking the News" Hugh Aynesworth:2003:pp:28-202-203
16:"Cover Up"..J.Gary Shaw:1976-1992:p:194..( Stevenson Exhibit 5053:WC 21 H 578)
17:"Forgive My Grief 1"..Penn Jones Jr..and "Cover Up"..J.Gary Shaw p:167
18:""High Treason"..Livingstone:Groden 1980-89-98: p: 158-159-160 : "Cover Up "Shaw p:194: ""They've Killed The President" Robert Anson p: 175
19:" "Government Documents and the John F.Kennedy Assassination".unpublished at this time...1975: Peter Dale Scott.
20: " Coup D'etat In America"...Alan J.Weberman: Michael Canfield..revised edition 1992..p:67-68

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