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Exercising the Deep Politics Muscle
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"Will he stand up to the powers that be the way JFK did?"

If we have learned anything studying all this stuff for 45 years it is that Dallas, Memphis and Los Angeles were warnings that "standing up" will not be tolerated. Either you are a puppet or you are snuffed out. The message is clear. And Obama is a special case. There are plenty of rednecks who will be willing to undertake the task on him independently.

That is why there are no "worthy" candidates any more. Nobody of significance wants to volunteer for martyrdom.

Jack
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Jack White Wrote:"Will he stand up to the powers that be the way JFK did?"

If we have learned anything studying all this stuff for 45 years it is that Dallas, Memphis and Los Angeles were warnings that "standing up" will not be tolerated. Either you are a puppet or you are snuffed out. The message is clear. And Obama is a special case. There are plenty of rednecks who will be willing to undertake the task on him independently.

That is why there are no "worthy" candidates any more. Nobody of significance wants to volunteer for martyrdom.

Jack

Good points, Jack. But, that said, if Obama should win he MAY travel a short while down the JFK road. If.... Powell's nod this morning may influence this election.

I agree that the wing nuts out there would be more than happy to take him out. We have the SS saying there were no "kill him" voices in the Scranton PA crowd. I saw it on the news. Guess they had thier ipods on and missed it Smile And this is the SS after all, they did little to protect in '63. To the contrary!

We will not know what he's made of until -(if)- he's in the WH. Certainly his bailout vote eroded much "hope" of someone different.

Dawn
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Dawn Meredith Wrote:Good points, Jack. But, that said, if Obama should win he MAY travel a short while down the JFK road. If.... Powell's nod this morning may influence this election.

I agree that the wing nuts out there would be more than happy to take him out. We have the SS saying there were no "kill him" voices in the Scranton PA crowd. I saw it on the news. Guess they had thier ipods on and missed it Smile And this is the SS after all, they did little to protect in '63. To the contrary!

We will not know what he's made of until -(if)- he's in the WH. Certainly his bailout vote eroded much "hope" of someone different.

Dawn


As Jack points out, all of those assassinations were not just to 'take out' an opponent of the Oligarchy behind the Curtain, but to warn others who might be tempted to fill their shoes.... So, we have what we have.....mushy peas for potitical fortitude - except for those unheard shouting from the frindge. IF Obama is elected [still unknown if there will be an octobersurprise or vote theft etc.] we just don't know how much along JFK path he may go or evolve. My hunch is he will enough to get him 'removed' - a year or two into his term. There will be no shortage of willing shooters. The yahoos already have him as an islamofascist trojanhorse into the American body politic [funny, as the opposite is true]. I hope I'm wrong. An Obama Presidentcy won't be bread and roses, but it might just be less of the corporate fascism we have experienced to date and a moment when the People can tell the President what they want. We will see. Yes, he is bought-out and controlled (but IMO somewhat slightly less than Bush/Chaney/McCain). But will he remain that way? Unknown. His only chance of becoming something better and survival is the People pushing him and protecting him. We are the soverign in this Nation - if we only realize it and seize back the power stolen from us. This horrible financial theft is one of our best chances for a wake-up of the sleeping People. If they don't 'get it now' - they never will - and the Nation is lost forever.
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Quote:We are the soverign in this Nation - if we only realize it and seize back the power stolen from us. This horrible financial theft is one of our best chances for a wake-up of the sleeping People. If they don't 'get it now' - they never will - and the Nation is lost forever.

I have been quite amazed and bewildered at the non reaction of people in the US. It is hard for me to judge because I am not in the United States to see for myself but I thought that there would have been much more visible response from people about everything that is going on there. I saw a news clip of maybe 200 people outside Wall Street one day with a few signs and slogans and I know very many people rang their politicians to say NO to the bail out/wealth transfer. And that is it. Here in Australia things are much the same as usual but then we are in a diferent situation to the US we'll be in deep trouble if China slows down. I know we have handed a few billion to our banks but there is no visible difference in people's lives [yet] except for an increase in foreclosures in the outer suburbs which are never in the news anyway. It seems that every third house is boarded up in the US. But I don't see any one doing anything about it - getting organised to take back their lives and their country and fighting back. It's like everyone has laid down to die or something. Maybe they're waiting for Obama to come along and fix everything. What is it like there at the moment?
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:... It seems that every third house is boarded up in the US. But I don't see any one doing anything about it - getting organised to take back their lives and their country and fighting back. ...

Every third house? That's nonsense! And we/they are going to do something about it.... in a democracy its called, "voting." November 4th, 2008.

I do have a bit of news for those on the other side of the pond(s). Something you may not be aware of. It seems Sweet Sarah Palin (Republican VP candidate) and her hubby (specifically) have Alaskan Successionist Movement ties. Rather strange position considering Sarah Palin is the Governor of that great State. What does one make of that?

GOOGLE is your friend :o
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Looks like an oil company fiefdom from here David.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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