The Texan Researchers: Cleaning Out the Row

[Keith Millea]

Jack,
What a chilling story!You're so lucky to be alive.Thankfully the thug didn't pick up a butcher knife instead.You are surely a true "Survivor". :five:

[Jack White]

Jack,
What a chilling story!You're so lucky to be alive.Thankfully the thug didn't pick up a butcher knife instead.You are surely a true "Survivor". :five:

I have survived for 19 years...going for twenty.

Jack

[Jack White]

View this video on YouTube; it depicts the Larry Howard I'm referencing and may be wrong about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFxt_ChhcgQ

Yes...that is Larry. I knew him fairly well for years. Nobody
EVER mentioned cancer. His wife Daryll told me he died of
a stroke. That is the first I have heard of cancer.

Jack

[Charles Drago]

Well, Jack, all I can recount are my memories -- which may indeed be faulty not so much because of the intervening years but rather due to the inadequacies attendant to my rookie status back in the ASK era and the misconspetions it may have encouraged.

I recall a bus tour -- it was the first ASK year, perhaps 1991 -- led by Howard. He was wearing a gray, 70s style patterned sport jacket. His hair was thin, as was his voice, and his complexion was a sickly gray. The following year I saw him wearing the same outfit, and his pallor was even less robust. It was then that I recall learning that he was very ill with cancer.

I'll defer to your firmer and more intimate recollections. In any event, it is the timing and context of his demise that are of interest vis a vis this thread.

When one considers the Ferrell/Shaw/White vanguard in comparison to what followed from Texas, one readily appreciates the purpose and ultimate success of the row cleaning.

Of course I understand that you're carrying on. Yet consider: How decimated the ranks of your detractors would be if Mary and Messrs. Shaw, Harris, and Howard were at your side.

This is small consolation indeed, but I stand with you.

Charles

[Jack White]

Well, Jack, all I can recount are my memories -- which may indeed be faulty not so much because of the intervening years but rather due to the inadequacies attendant to my rookie status back in the ASK era and the misconspetions it may have encouraged.

I recall a bus tour -- it was the first ASK year, perhaps 1991 -- led by Howard. He was wearing a gray, 70s style patterned sport jacket. His hair was thin, as was his voice, and his complexion was a sickly gray. The following year I saw him wearing the same outfit, and his pallor was even less robust. It was then that I recall learning that he was very ill with cancer.

I'll defer to your firmer and more intimate recollections. In any event, it is the timing and context of his demise that are of interest vis a vis this thread.

When one considers the Ferrell/Shaw/White vanguard in comparison to what followed from Texas, one readily appreciates the purpose and ultimate success of the row cleaning.

Of course I understand that you're carrying on. Yet consider: How decimated the ranks of your detractors would be if Mary and Messrs. Shaw, Harris, and Howard were at your side.

This is small consolation indeed, but I stand with you.

Charles

I will ask Gary Shaw sometime to refresh my memory. Larry always
looked sickly like you describe him...but I do not think it was health
induced.

Larry Howard had a very raspy voice...sort of like mine right
now. I have a badly damaged vocal chord. I am having surgery on
it next Friday.

Jack

PS. I have always considered the deaths of Howard, Harris and
Fensterwald suspicious. I had not considered that I might have
been part of the same pattern.

[John Bevilaqua]

All of these people died of natural or truly accidental causes. Nice try, though. And only Mary Ferrell was really close to a new breakthrough regarding what Roy Hargraves had just told her about the participation of Pioneer Fund operatives in the entire JFK hit. I mean after 40 years of trying and hypothesizing why would anyone target this entire group absent any new and monumentally breakthrough leads into the case? Only Mary fell into this category and Bill Adams and a few others, I believe, for one, can vouch for this information and these facts as I recall. She had just completed the link from JFK into both The Council for National Policy and The Pioneer Fund Board of Directors as well based on information provided by Roy Hargraves and later verified by James Richards and his contacts. What better sources than that can you possibly have? The Pioneer Fund, The Council for National Policy, WACL, SMOM, The John Birchers and SKOM. Bank on it. And I have it on good authority that Gary Shaw abandoned the JFK Research Business after he started breaking even or losing money on the ASK conferences, no more and no less. When only 100-200 people were willing to spring for $75 bucks by the mid-1990s it no longer became palatable or financially profitable to run these conferences anymore. End of story.

[Myra Bronstein]

All of these people died of natural or truly accidental causes. Nice try, though. ...End of story.

End of story! No more discussion forums needed.

[Helen Reyes]

List of Things to Do:

1. Disrobe, stash clothes in bushes
2. Test the waters for attention, security or alarms. God it's hot.
3. Leave auto tool kit in plain view for auto theft cover story. Hey Dr. Pepper! I'm a pepper, you're a pepper, wouldn't you like to be a pepper too? Peter peppper picked...Pepper, peeper....
4. Select sharp implement in kitchen area. An ice-pick, how handy. Just like Trotsky in Mexico City. Very good.
5. Neutralize target.
6. Retrieve clothes from bushes, take automobile.
7. Leave auto at predetermined site, await pickup.

[Magda Hassan]

List of Things to Do:

1. Disrobe, stash clothes in bushes
2. Test the waters for attention, security or alarms. God it's hot.
3. Leave auto tool kit in plain view for auto theft cover story. Hey Dr. Pepper! I'm a pepper, you're a pepper, wouldn't you like to be a pepper too? Peter peppper picked...Pepper, peeper....
4. Select sharp implement in kitchen area. An ice-pick, how handy. Just like Trotsky in Mexico City. Very good.
5. Neutralize target.
6. Retrieve clothes from bushes, take automobile.
7. Leave auto at predetermined site, await pickup.

Yes. Likely to be some one else in on it waiting with pick up and change of clothes as a naked man wandering around the city is sure to draw attention. :hmmmm2:

[Charles Drago]

All of these people died of natural or truly accidental causes. Nice try, though ... I mean after 40 years of trying and hypothesizing why would anyone target this entire group absent any new and monumentally breakthrough leads into the case?

1. To support what your choice of language forces us to infer are definitive and clinically based cause-of-death conclusions, please supply the case studies (medical, law enforcement, etc.) on which they are based, and be certain to include a statistical analysis of the odds that they would occur in so focused a cluster and time frame.

2. Absense of evidence is not evidence of absence. We have no way of knowing what any of the researchers in question may have been working on in private -- areas of interest that may have included the actions of some of JB's favorite suspects.

3. Like all intelligence operations, the hypothetical row cleaning likely had more than one objective. Examples:

A. Eliminate one particularly troublesome person;

B. Deflect focus from that target by taking out additional researchers who pose no particular threat;

C. Direct focus on a not particularly troublesome group of Texans, and thus deflect focus from a more promising (to us), threatening (to them) individual/group far removed from Texas.

D. Pre-empt an otherwise unstoppable release of important info from the target area.

E. Support highly public yet wholly bogus, disinformative work from the target area.

F. Sow fear among all researchers by hitting the group closest to the scene of the crime.

G. Re-energize the creation and manipulation of cognitive dissonance; or, if you prefer, continue to work the magic.

4. I do not carry water for Mr. Shaw. Yet a hypothesis regarding his mercenary motivations is just that -- a guess -- until it is backed up with facts.

5. "End of story" is synonymous with "case closed." End of story.