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Dubai seeks '11 Europeans' for Hamas killing
#81
Peter Presland Wrote:Who's that bloke Smith? He's certainly sticking his neck out a bit. Maybe he's just not politically ambitious?
He's the Foreign Minister here. It was 'courageous' of him. as Sir Humphrey would say. We don't have an election though.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#82
Looks like these can be legally obtained by just anybody. Ideal for spooks.
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The most relevant literature regarding what happened since September 11, 2001 is George Orwell's "1984".
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#83
I want one. Where do I sign?

Sounds like the pre-paid credit cards you can get at the post office and petrol stations everywhere.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#84
Magda Hassan Wrote:I want one. Where do I sign?

Sounds like the pre-paid credit cards you can get at the post office and petrol stations everywhere.
The more interesting question is: Who fills it up?:bandit:
The most relevant literature regarding what happened since September 11, 2001 is George Orwell's "1984".
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#85
Unfortunately, if it is anything like my pre paid credit card - you do. On the plus side there are no interest charges. Just a one off fee to get it the first time.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#86
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/war...5834538957

Quote: Warning on passport forgery ignored, says former diplomat

Mark Dodd and Paul Maley From: The Australian February 26, 2010 12:00AM

IN 2004, it was an open secret in Canberra's Middle Eastern community that Israeli agents were trying to obtain "clean" passports from countries such as Australia and New Zealand to be used by its spy agency, Mossad.

Ali Kazak was the Palestinian representative to Australia at the time and he went public with his concerns, warning the Howard government that Mossad was trying to obtain Australian passport details fraudulently.

Mr Kazak, who served as a semi-official ambassador from 1982 to 2006, last night said he had been vindicated by confirmation that cloned Australian passports were used by suspects in the murder of Palestinian militant Mahmoud al-Mabhouh.

"I told you but you didn't act on the warning," Mr Kazak said. "And you've put Australian lives at risk."

In 2004, Mr Kazak declared that a Mossad agent operating in Sydney at the time had obtained 25 false Australian passports.



Mr Kazak said his claims were played down by then federal attorney-general Philip Ruddock.

Months later, New Zealand police arrested two suspected Mossad agents who had flown in from Australia after a botched attempt to obtain a false passport using identity details of a wheelchair-bound cerebral palsy victim.

The agents had picked a target they guessed was unlikely to travel abroad but their attempts at faking a New Zealand accent aroused the suspicion of an immigration official who alerted Wellington's small but sharp security service.

The two Israelis, Eli Cara and Urie Zoshe Kelman, were promptly arrested.

New Zealand's prime minister at the time, Helen Clark, blasted Israel and suspended all high-level diplomatic contacts over the incident.

Cara and Kelman pleaded guilty to the charges and were sentenced to six months' jail by an Auckland court on charges of having attempted falsely to obtain a passport.

The two served their sentences and were sent home to Israel.

A year later, Israel apologised and diplomatic ties were restored.

Cara, a former Israeli air force officer, had operated a travel business based in the northern Sydney suburb of Turramurra.

Mr Kazak said yesterday he had no doubt Mossad was behind the murder of Mabhouh.

"Yesterday the Israeli members of parliament were praising the head of Mossad for what he did -- for assassinating the Hamas leader in Dubai," he said.

"We know they've been responsible for counterfeiting New Zealand passports. We know that in 1997 when they (Mossad) attempted to assassinate the Hamas leader Khalid Meshaal they used Canadian passports. And we know Mossad agents were operating out of Sydney (in 2003), were counterfeiting Australian passports.

"I said that at the time, but did the Australian government -- Alexander Downer -- investigate seriously this Mossad activity? No, I don't think so."

In 1997, Mossad bungled the assassination of Meshaal, who was injected with a poison while in Jordan by Israeli agents travelling on Canadian documents. Meshaal survived after his assailants were captured by his bodyguards and Israel provided the antidote.

Mr Kazak said the Australian government's failure to properly investigate Mossad's activities here amounted to appeasement and had put Australian lives at risk. "Can you imagine what Australia would do if this (passport fraud) was being done by an Arab or Muslim country?" he said.

"This neglect, this appeasement, this closing of eyes towards Israel is putting Israel's interest above Australia."

Mr Downer last night rejected Mr Kazak's claim.

Speaking from Greece, the former foreign minister said the Howard government had bluntly warned Israel not to issue fake Australian passports to its intelligence operatives.

"I'm not 100 per cent sure that I didn't myself raise it with the Israelis," Mr Downer said. "I may have done. I couldn't rule it out."

Mr Downer said the warning was issued in the context of a series of botched operations involving Mossad agents travelling on fake passports.

"My recollection is that over time we have raised this issue with the Israelis," he said. "We have raised the issue of Israeli intelligence officers using foreign passports and that they should not consider using Australian passports."

Mr Downer said the attempted forgery of a New Zealand passport provoked outrage across the Tasman.

"It was certainly raised with me in a very animated way by Phil Goff when he was the New Zealand foreign minister," Mr Downer said. "They were very, very animated about it."

The normally voluble Jewish lobby group Australia Israel Jewish Affairs Council last night declined to comment on the looming diplomatic spat. An AIJAC spokesman told The Australian its director, Colin Rubenstein, was seeking more details.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
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#87
Carsten - outstanding work. Confusedhakehands:

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"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
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#88
The Dubai police obviously tries to keep this cooking by releasing information piece by piece.
They claim to have found the DNA of at least one of the assassins, and fingerprints of others. ( http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/crime/...s-1.589261)

They also mention an "Emirati-international task force" commencing work tomorrow, let's see if the U.S. will provide support as well.

In earlier statements Dubai police mentioned they have Iris scans of the suspects as well.

Israeli media claim that the passport photos do not show the real appearance of the agents, but were modified.
( http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1152584.html )
This sounds like psychological damage control to me, on the one hand acknowledging Mossad involvement, but claiming that the damage done is not so high as it may have seemed.
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#89
ASIO targets new spy suspects

JASON KOUTSOUKIS

February 27, 2010
EXCLUSIVE
ASIO is investigating at least three dual Australian-Israeli citizens who they suspect of using Australian cover to spy for Israel.
The investigation began at least six months before last month's assassination of the Hamas operative Mahmoud al-Mabhouh, widely believed to have been carried out by the Israeli security agency Mossad.
Authorities in Dubai have revealed that three people suspected of taking part in the assassination were travelling on Australian passports, using the names of three dual Australian-Israeli citizens.
The three Australian names linked to the assassination are in no way connected to the three people being investigated by ASIO.
According to two Australian intelligence sources who have been in contact with the Herald, the three men under surveillance all emigrated to Israel within the last decade.
Each has travelled back to Australia at different times to legally change their names and obtain new Australian passports. One of the men has changed his surname three times, the other two have changed theirs twice.
The men have changed their names from surnames that could be read as European-Jewish to ones more typically identified as Anglo-Australian.
Australian citizens are generally allowed to change their name once every 12 months, as long as it is not for criminal reasons.
The new passports have been used to gain entry to a number of countries that are hostile to Israel including Iran, Syria and Lebanon. All three do not recognise Israel and forbid Israelis from entering. Israel also forbids its citizens from travelling to those countries for security reasons.
The Herald understands that the three Australians share an involvement with a European communications company that has a subsidiary in the Middle East. A person travelling under one of these names sought Australian consular assistance in Tehran in 2004.
The Herald has contacted two of the men, both of whom emphatically denied they were involved in any kind of espionage activity.
Both men confirmed they had changed their surnames, but said that the proposition they had done so in order to obtain new documents to travel throughout the Middle East were, in the words of one, "totally absurd''.
"This is a complete fantasy," said the man when contacted in Israel. "I have changed my name for personal reasons.''
The other man, who was not in Israel when contacted, expressed shock at the suggestion he was under any kind of surveillance and said that he had also changed his name for personal reasons.
"I have never been to any of those countries that you say I have been to,'' he said. ''I am not involved in any kind of spying. That is ridiculous."
The same man is also believed to hold British citizenship, and is believed to have come to the attention of British intelligence after he had changed his name.
In January the Herald visited the offices of the European company that connects the three men.
The company's office manager confirmed to the Herald that one of the men being monitored by ASIO - the same man believed to hold a British passport - was employed by the company but was "unavailable".
The company's chief executive later emphatically denied that this man was ever employed by his company, and totally rejected that his company was being used to gather intelligence on behalf of Israel.
ASIO said it had no comment to make on the case.
Meanwhile, the government confronted Israel for a second time yesterday over the Dubai plot, with the acting ambassador in Tel Aviv, Nicoli Maning-Campbell, conveying the government's concerns to officials in Israel.
The Israeli embassy in Canberra said it had relayed Australia's demands to Israel but would not comment.
with Jonathan Pearlman

http://www.smh.com.au/world/asio-targets...-p929.html
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#90
Always necessary to read between the lines with Debka File. They are Uber-Zionist so their editorial bias is a no-brainer - which is not to say that wide understanding of that fact is not used to have misleading stories/interpretations planted by you know who - the usual spook smoke and mirrors stuff.

All that said this is interesting - Italics and bolding mine:
Quote: DEBKAfile: Dubai police claim of DNA and fingerprints is not credible
DEBKAfile Exclusive Analysis February 27, 2010, 12:15 AM (GMT+02:00)
[Image: Mabhouhassissians.jpg]
Mabhouh with mysterious shadows

Dubai's police chief Dhahi Khalfan said Friday, Feb. 26, that DNA and fingerprint evidence of at least one of the 26 team of assassins had been found in the hotel room where Hamas commander Mahmoud Al-Mabhouh was found dead on Jan. 19. The first arrest warrants have now been issued through Interpol.
debkafile's intelligence sources report that the Dubai authorities believe that a persistent stream of "revelations" about the Mabhouh investigation will make Israel and its Mossad intelligence agency slip up and admit responsibility for his death.
According to those sources, it makes no sense for the Dubai police to have found DNA or fingerprints in room 230 of the Al-Bustan Rotana luxury hotel occupied by Mabhouh and in none of the other rooms taken by hit team members. Any fingerprints will not be of much use unless they can be matched with prints of identified persons already on file with the Dubai police, and in any case are probably not genuine.
Our sources disclose that all the suspects arrived in Dubai disguised from head to toe and their fingerprints were most likely faked along with the rest of their appearance. Therefore, the Dubai police's fine collection of video clips and passport photos are of little use to the inquiry.
debkafile sources therefore dismiss the claims by the Dubai police and certain Israeli publications citing "security experts" that the Mossad was caught unawares by the security cameras which tracked the death squad's movements. They missed the fact that the team was not only aware of the cameras but controlled them and used them in support of their mission.
Therefore, when Khalfan comes out with his next round of "revelations," he will most likely produce video depictions of some of the suspects using electronic gadgets to open the door of 230, Mabhouh's hotel room, at 8:24 p.m. Jan. 19, as the victim climbed up from the lobby to his room. The next shot 19 minutes later will show the same suspects leaving room 230, relocking the door and with the same gadget shooting the inside bolt home to concoct the appearance of a locked room mystery.
But the Dubai police are clearly missing the essential 19-minute segment covering the action inside room 230, without which they have no real evidence of a crime.
That did not happen by chance.
According to our sources, the death squad kept the cameras running long enough to exhibit their facility to penetrate any secure site in the Middle East, but switched them off when they wanted to conceal the actions they took in pursuance of their mission.
Controlling the security cameras eh?

Now where have we seen that before - only to have it comprehensively rubbished as having no possible bearing on matters - 9/11, 7/7 for starters?

I find it verging on the comical that Mossad's apologists should go to such lengths to tell things in a manner clearly intended to strike fear into the hearts of all those stupid Arabs and laud the technical prowess of their masters whilst simultaneously suggesting they didn't do it anyway.

Seems to me it is THEY who are stupid - and long long past their sell-by date.
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