US Intell planned to destroy Wikileaks

[Keith Millea]

I remain agnostic on the matter

I also remain agnostic on this Peter P.Tarpley uses a lot of speculation in his presentation,but as Peter L.says,Tarpley should be taken seriously.

[Jan Klimkowski]

Alternately, all those pieces are missing a very simple point.

Wikileaks released previously classifed military and intelligence documents. Some of those documents push some of the central tenets of the War on Terror - eg that Osama Bin Laden is the still living and breathing mastermind behind the evil super-terrorists of Al Qaeda, and that Gul and the ISI are secretly helping the Taliban.

What is remotely surprizing about that?

I would hardly expect classified US mil/intel documents to state that OBL is a constructed bogeyman, that Al Qaeda is strictly limited in its ability to strike the West and may not even exist in any meaningful form, or that the ISI and Taliban are ideological enemies.

For me, we are still witnessing a desperate mockingbird attempt to steer the "discussion" of these leaked documents to the advantage of the powerful. Which means concentrating on the claimed ISI-Taliban collaboration, and the alleged "dangers" of OBL and AlQ.

Whilst ignoring the Big Smoking Gun. Namely, TF 373 carrying out extra-judicial murders throughout the region, including the slaughter of women and chidren.

If the wikileaks documents were an intel op, surely they would have been cleansed of any mention of TF 373.

And MSM assets such as the NYT would not be so religiously ignoring the TF 373 revelations.

[Jan Klimkowski]

Reporters Without Borders accuses WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange of 'incredible irresponsibility' over leaked documents

But then Reporters Without Borders shows all the signs of being a psyop.

See the DPF thread on RWB here:
http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/...borders%22

Here is so-called "press freedom group" RWB's take on wikileaks:

Press freedom group joins condemnation of WikiLeaks' war logs

Reporters Without Borders accuses WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange of 'incredible irresponsibility' over leaked documents

A group that campaigns for press freedom has become the latest organisation to condemn WikiLeaks for publication of the leaked Afghanistan war logs.

In an open letter to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, Reporters Without Borders accused him of "incredible irresponsibility" for publishing the tens of thousands of documents "indiscriminately". WikiLeaks initially withheld around 15,000 of more than 92,000 reports to protect informants but Assange revealed yesterday it is preparing to publish them, once the organisation has finished checking them all.

The letter from Reporters Without Borders' secretary-general, Jean-François Julliard, and the organisation's Washington representative, Clothilde Le Coz, acknowledged that WikiLeaks had played a "useful role" in the past, citing its publication of a video of the killing of two employees of the Reuters news agency and other civilians by US military personnel in Baghdad in July 2007. But it criticised Assange for putting the lives of people who had collaborated with US and Nato forces at risk and providing ammunition for governments to put the internet under surveillance.

"Revealing the identity of hundreds of people who collaborated with the coalition in Afghanistan is highly dangerous," they wrote. "It would not be hard for the Taliban and other armed groups to use these documents to draw up a list of people for targeting in deadly revenge attacks."

They said that the publication of the documents "reflects a real problem of methodology and, therefore, of credibility".

On Twitter, WikiLeaks responded by deriding Reporters Without Borders as "Reporters San Fact", accusing the organisation of issuing "some idiot statement, based on a bunch of quotes we never made".

Assange said yesterday WikiLeaks was about halfway through reviewing the remaining 15,000 documents but gave no timeframe for their publication.

The Pentagon, which has demanded that WikiLeaks delete the cache of secret US military files, reacted with anger to the prospect of further documents being published. Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell said: "It would compound a mistake that has already put far too many lives at risk," he said. The Pentagon believes it has identified the documents in question and Morrell told the Washington Post they were "potentially more explosive, more sensitive".

Reporters Without Borders' criticism follows a letter sent to WikiLeaks by five human rights organisations, including Amnesty International and the Open Society Institute, expressing their concerns about the biggest leak in US military history.

Assange, replied to the letter by asking the groups concerned to help WikiLeaks redact the names. He also threatened to expose Amnesty if it refused to provide staff to help with the task, according to the Wall Street Journal.

The initial documents were shown to the Guardian, the New York Times and the German weekly Der Spiegel and they published edited extracts with details of the individuals removed

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/aug...ut-borders

[Keith Millea]

If you listened to Webster Tarpleys interview you will understand what he is talking about in regards to Cass Sunstein and the Chinese dissidents(assets).So why is Sunstein plugging Wikileaks?


A Brave New Wikiworld

By Cass R. Sunstein

Saturday, February 24, 2007

In the past year, Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia that "anyone can edit," has been cited four times as often as the Encyclopedia Britannica in judicial opinions, and the number is rapidly growing. In just two years, YouTube has become a household word and one of the world's most successful Web sites. Such astounding growth and success demonstrate society's unstoppable movement toward shared production of information, as diverse groups of people in multiple fields pool their knowledge and draw from each other's resources.

Developing one of the most important ideas of the 20th century, Nobel Prize-winning economist Friedrich Hayek attacked socialist planning on the grounds that no planner could possibly obtain the "dispersed bits" of information held by individual members of society. Hayek insisted that the knowledge of individuals, taken as a whole, is far greater than that of any commission or board, however diligent and expert. he magic of the system of prices and of economic markets is that they incorporate a great deal of diffuse knowledge.

Wikipedia's entries are not exactly prices, but they do aggregate the widely dispersed information of countless volunteer writers and editors. In this respect, Wikipedia is merely one of many experiments in aggregating knowledge and creativity, that have been made possible by new technologies.

The Central Intelligence Agency disclosed the existence of its top-secret Intellipedia project, based on Wikipedia software (and now containing more than 28,000 pages), in late October. The agency hopes to use dispersed information to reduce the risk of intelligence failures. NASA officials have adopted a wiki site to program NASA software, allowing many participants to make improvements.

In the private domain, businesses are adopting wikis to compile information about products, profits and new developments. The Autism Wiki, produced mostly by adults with autism and Asperger's syndrome, contains material on autism and related conditions. Wikileaks.org, founded by dissidents in China and other nations, plans to post secret government documents and to protect them from censorship with coded software.

But wikis are merely one way to assemble dispersed knowledge. The number of prediction markets has also climbed over the past decade. These markets aggregate information by inviting people to "bet" on future events -- the outcome of elections, changes in gross domestic product, the likelihood of a natural disaster or an outbreak of avian flu.

In general, the results have proved stunningly accurate. For elections, market forecasts have consistently outperformed experts and even public opinion polls. (If you want to learn who is likely to win the Oscars, check out the Hollywood Stock Exchange at http://www.hsx.com.) Many companies, such as Google, Eli Lilly and Microsoft, have created internal prediction markets for product launches, office openings, sales levels and more. At Google, which has disclosed some of its data, the aggregation of dispersed information has yielded remarkably reliable forecasts.
Interest in open-source software -- software whose "code" is available to users, so that they can improve it as they see fit -- has also risen dramatically. But the idea of open source is not limited to software.

Open-source projects, some of which are emerging in medicine and biotechnology, dispense with the protection of intellectual property law so that numerous users can contribute to improvements. In the domain of health, open-source biotechnology projects such as Bioforge.net might end up saving numerous lives, especially but not only in poor countries. Well-funded projects claiming the protection of intellectual property law will often do much worse than cheaper ones that benefit from widespread collaboration. Other experiments involve open-source cars ( http://www.theoscarproject.org), open-source cellphones, open-source toys ( http://mindstorms.lego.com) and even open-source voting machines, which are designed to reduce the risk and appearance of fraud.

Of course, collaborative projects can go badly wrong. Pranksters have altered Wikipedia entries to say that Tony Blair's middle name is "Whoop-de Do"; that David Beckham was a Chinese goalkeeper in the 18th century; that the golfer Fuzzy Zoeller had abused alcohol and drugs; and that John Seigenthaler, a respected journalist, was thought to be involved in the assassinations of both Kennedys (before absconding to the Soviet Union).

The falsehoods about Zoeller and Seigenthaler were no laughing matter, and more serious mistakes, endangering reputations or causing financial losses, are possible. Anyone can vandalize an encyclopedia that "anyone can edit." No less than stock prices, prediction markets may be subject to manipulation. And in medicine and biotechnology, as elsewhere, intellectual property law may be needed to provide adequate incentives for innovation.

But the track record of the new collaborations suggests that they have immense potential. In just a few years, Wikipedia has become the most influential encyclopedia in the world, consulted by judges as well as those who cannot afford to buy books. If the past is prologue, we're seeing the tip of a very large iceberg.

Cass R. Sunstein teaches at the University of Chicago and is the author of "Infotopia: How Many Minds Produce Knowledge."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...01596.html

[Peter Presland]

This probably qualifies for inclusion in Research Tools as well. An impressive search and browse site for the entire afghan War Diaries database:

DiaryDig.org is an independently produced website which provides an easy way to search through the Afghan War Diaries, which were made public by Wikileaks on 25th July 2010. The documents are a set of over 76,000 reports (with more coming in the future) which cover the war in Afghanistan from 2004 to 2009.
From here, you can browse through all of the documents that have been released, organized by type, category, date, number of casualties, and many other properties. From any document page, clicking on the green underlined text will open a popup that links to other documents that contain those phrases, making it possible to see important search terms and connections that you might not otherwise notice.
Our hope is that this tool will be helpful to reporters and researchers who are interested in learning more about the US's war in Afghanistan and making sense of this important database. If you wish to support this work, we encourage you to make a donation to wikileaks or the Bradley Manning legal defense fund.

All the usual cautions apply but I've cross-checked a few entries with my own Wikileaks download and they tally exactly. Also - the software is open source with what appears to be a thriving forum community linked from the site.

As an aside, WikiSpooks has had several hundred visits from Arrse (Army Rumour Service) forum readers following an updated Richard Tomlinson article. I couldn't help but notice the traffic and so did them a special article gleaned from the Wilileaks Afghan database - a bit of UK squaddie humour or a ministerial death threat?

Interesting that most come from the thread that discusses the Tomlinson article, but a small subset come from a page that is accessible by administrators only - Hmmm, maybe they think I'm a bloody subversive or something. :afraid:

[Ed Jewett]

Thanks, Keith, for the Tarpley "Guns and Butter" interview which I just finished. [Would someone invent a "grok" pill for podcasts so they didn't require so much time?]

[Peter Lemkin]

A Swedish arrest warrant has been released...clearly a way to put pressure to shut Wikileaks and Assange up.... Sadly, most governments are run by pure evil persons, intent only on maintaining their power, connections and money.....no matter what they have to do to maintain that which they do not deserve.....

Wikileaks founders of e-mails to Aftonbladet: "Obviously, the allegations are not true"

Wikileaks founders Julian Assange is charged in his absence on suspicion of rape.

- It's about rape and molestation, "said Maria Häljebo Kjell Beach, prosecutors call the City Prosecutor's House in Stockholm.

Julian Assange denies the accusations in an email to Aftonbladet.

Julian Assange early this morning had still not heard from the police. He has become known worldwide for the revelations made by Wikileaks. Published secret documents

Last published 90 000 secret documents from the U.S. armed forces for war in Afghanistan. It was a collaboration between Wikileaks, the New York Times, The Guardian and Der Spiegel. Information about the war that has not previously been known, was published.

Julian Assange is in Sweden for some time to participate in various activities and plan for the possible establishment in Sweden. The reason is that Sweden's law expression contains the strongest protection in the world for the protection of sources. "Looking on serious allegations"

He has had contact with the Socialist Brotherhood Movement and the Pirate Party. Julian Assange also wrote this week on a contract to become a columnist in Aftonbladet. To date, no published column.

- I am looking very seriously at this data. We await further cooperation until we get clarity on what happened, "said Jan Helin, the chief editor of Aftonbladet.

According to police investigators in Stockholm Assange have not yet heard from them at the notifications against him became known.

- We have not heard his version of it here yet. He has the right to a lawyer, says Ola Torndahl, when police in the city. "The allegations are not true"

In an email to Aftonbladet, which came at 10 o'clock this morning, writes Julian Assange:

"Of course, allegations of rape are not true."

Prosecutor Maria Häljebo Kjell Beach confirms that Assange is charged in his absence at the high suspicion level, on suspicion of crimes.

- It's about rape and molestation. It is a serious offense to being accused of so according to those involved so I say nothing more, "she says. Charged in his absence

According to Expressen, the women who went to police with information not wish to be identified out of fear of Assange. But the crime falls under the general rape prosecution why the police decided to arrest Julian Assange in his absence.

[Magda Hassan]

Quelle surprise....yawn.

[Keith Millea]

Well! Well! Well!
Taking Assange down the old fashioned way.

WikiLeaks Founder Julian Assange Accused of Rape





[/url][url=http://www.aolnews.com/team/hugh-collins]Hugh Collins Contributor
AOL News
(Aug. 21) -- WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is wanted by officials in Sweden on suspicion of rape and molestation.

Swedish authorities issued a warrant for his arrest Friday, in connection with two separate cases, The Associated Press reported.

"He should get in contact with police so that he can be confronted with the suspicions," Karin Rosander, a spokeswoman for the Swedish Prosecution Authority, told the AP.

Assange, 39, an Australian with no fixed address, spends much of his time in Sweden to take advantage of its legal protections for his whistle-blowing website WikiLeaks.

WikiLeaks angered U.S. authorities last month by leaking classified documents related to the war in Afghanistan. The U.S. government accused WikiLeaks compromising military security and potentially putting lives in danger.

Assange, 39, denied the allegations of rape and molestation on the WikiLeaks Twitter page.

"The charges are without basis and their issue at this moment is deeply disturbing," he tweeted.

Swedish newspaper Expressen was the first to report the accusations. The WikiLeaks Twitter page dismissed Expressen as "a tabloid."

Assange "didn't know of the charges until he read them in the right wing tabloid Expressen this morning", Kristinn Hrafnsson, a colleague of Assange's at WikiLeaks, told Agence France-Presse. "There are powerful organizations who want to do harm to WikiLeaks."

The Australian is believed to be in Sweden, but there are no reports that he has turned himself in.

He held a press conference in Stockholm last week, where he said that WikiLeaks planned to go ahead and publish 15,000 more secret documents on the war in Afghanistan.

Assange also spoke at a seminar held by Sweden's Social Democratic Party and said he would begin writing columns for a left-wing newspaper, The Daily Telegraph reported.

Hrafnsson told AFP that Assange would "go to the police very quickly."

WikiLeaks made headlines in April when it leaked a video showing U.S. military personnel killing a dozen people in Iraq. Two Reuters journalists were among the dead.

Last month, the website leaked thousands of classified documents about the war in Afghanistan to newspapers including The New York Times and The Guardian.

The documents showed a stumbling war effort, with fraught relations between U.S. authorities and Pakistan. Officials called the leak one of the biggest security breaches in American military history.

U.S. authorities argued against WikiLeaks publishing further documents from the tens of thousands it had obtained.

Assange is a native of Australia. He attended 37 different schools as a child, moving frequently thanks to his parents' work in a touring theatre company, according to a profile in The Daily Telegraph.

Assange has no home address, though he frequently is found in Iceland and Sweden, countries whose laws protect Internet anonymity.

[Peter Presland]

From Aklagarmyndigheten - the office of the Swedish Prosecutor:

Chief prosector Eva Finné has come to the desicion that Julian Assange is not suspected of rape. Considering that, Assange is no longer arrested in his absence.
Eva Finné will make no other comments during Saturday night.

and from the Wikileaks official Blog:

On Saturday 21st of August, we have been made aware of rape allegations made against Julian Assange, founder of this project and one of our spokespeople.
We are deeply concerned about the seriousness of these allegations. We the people behind WikiLeaks think highly of Julian and and he has our full support.
While Julian is focusing on his defenses and clearing his name, WikiLeaks will be continuing its regular operations.
The WikiLeaks team


By WikiLeaks on August 21, 2010

People would pay millions for this sort of exposure !!

I've also extended the Wikileaks article on Wikispooks considerably