Quote:Whenever there are issues of political/establishment power involved
every possible attempt must be made to incriminate the victim. Are you
briefed on the methodology or does it just come naturally to you?
I've heard that "Common Purpose" are arranging courses and seminars for among others, journalists and public servants; I think they teach much of this kind of methodology.
London's finest dragging a man with cerebral palsy from his wheelchair and about 30 yards across the road before being stopped by other protestors.
Then note the persistent attempts by the BBC interviewer to incriminate the victim in a classic illustration of Orwellian role reversal. The thing is I bet the interviewer simply has no idea what he is doing either.
Jody McIntyre makes a telling point about how the interviewer might deal with Prince Charles being treated in similar circumstances.
The BBC fawning subservience to any kind of State sanctioned power is, as always puke-inducing
I found the footage very, very disturbing. But worse than that was the interviewer seeking to find any way to discredit a wheelchair bound sufferer of cerebral palsy.
What is the bloody world coming to....
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Officers have been briefed that they can use stop and search powers during protests planned near Parliament later, sources have said.
The tactic emerged ahead of Theresa May's appearance at the Home Affairs Select Committee, a cross-party group of MPs, which is expected to begin at 12.40pm.
She is expected to be asked about how protesters were able to surround a car containing Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall during demonstrations in central London.
Mrs May is also likely to discuss her views on water cannons in more detail after suggesting at the weekend that the police should consider every option in terms of how to protect the public.
When asked by Sky News about whether officers should resort to cannons, she replied: "You wouldn't expect me to sit here and give the game away about what tactics would be used."
But on Monday, she appeared to suggest they would not be authorised.
"I don't think anybody wants to see water cannon used on the streets of Britain," she told MPs.
She also defended the police and insisted it was unfair to blame their techniques when some demonstrators had come armed with sticks, flares, fireworks and snooker balls.
The committee's chair, Keith Vaz MP, told Sky News he wanted to hear how she expected officers to deal with similar challenges in the future.
He said cannons "are not part of what we do in this country" and welcomed her most recent remarks.
But he said a review of police tactics was vital because "these protests are not going to go away".
Police have faced criticism from all sides - both that they were not heavy-handed enough when trying to protect the royal couple and that they over-reacted.
One demonstrator, Jody McIntyre, has alleged he was dragged from his wheelchair by officers.
Representatives from the Metropolitan Police and the National Union of Students will discuss the tactics used when they give evidence to the Joint Committee on Human Rights today.
They are likely to talk about "kettling" - the technique of surrounding demonstrators to keep them in one spot - and whether officers stuck to guidelines.
It comes as a group of activists say hundreds of people will surround New Scotland Yard in a gesture of support for Alfie Meadows, 20, who required brain surgery after allegedly being struck with a truncheon during last Thursday's rally.
The Education Activist Network said they plan to link arms and "kettle" the police headquarters.
Later, the House of Lords will vote on whether to make a hike in university fees law.
"One demonstrator, Jody McIntyre, has alleged he was dragged from his wheelchair by officers."
Alleged? Nice media spin as usual. The word they should use is "fact". We've seen the footage. But, oh so many haven't and therefore using this word undermines the facts.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Short of nerve gas or firing squad its pretty hard to be more robust than dragging the handicapped from their wheel chairs. Even Iran has made a formal complaint to the Brit ambassador.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
Quote:the description "more robust" translated from newspeak simply means we're going to beat the shit out of them.
They like it too.................
"You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.â€
Buckminster Fuller
14-12-2010, 06:47 PM (This post was last modified: 14-12-2010, 06:50 PM by Jan Klimkowski.)
Keith Millea Wrote:
Quote:the description "more robust" translated from newspeak simply means we're going to beat the shit out of them.
They like it too.................
Peter P, Magda, David, Christer - excellent and insightful posts.
Peter - I particularly enjoyed your subversive behaviour in Dale's pompous blogosphere, and your email to the trusted BBC poodle Ben Brown.
The image posted by Keith sums it up perfectly. Btw cartoon cop with baton bears an uncanny resemblance to the thuggish prison guard in Shawshank Redemption.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War." Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta." The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
The police like to set their public relations department a special Christmas challenge, don't they? Because that's the only explanation for them being filmed on the anti-fees demonstration, chucking a disabled man out of his wheelchair and shoving him along the road, unless it was to enjoy telling their PR team, "Stick a positive spin on that for us, could you?"
Ben Brown of the BBC tried his best, when he interviewed Jody McIntyre, the man who was dislodged, and said aggressively: "There's a suggestion that you were rolling in the direction of the police." Now, let's suppose this was the case (which I can't help but doubt), how much force is needed, I wonder, to stop a man with cerebral palsy who keeps rolling, even when asked to stop?
Presumably the police turned to each other in shock, spluttering: "Oh my God, he's rolling straight for us. These riot shields and helmets with visors offer woefully inadequate protection against such a persistent rolling machine. If we're lucky our batons can buy us some time, but his momentum is terrifying, it's like a cerebral palsy tsunami."
Maybe this is how to win in Afghanistan. We recruit a multiple sclerosis battalion to roll mercilessly through Helmand province and the Taliban will run away shrieking in fear.
Even as they showed the film on the news, Ben Brown said it "appeared to show Mr Mcintyre being pulled from his wheelchair", with a lingering ambiguous "appeared", as if he was going to add: "but it turned out to be a stunt staged by Derren Brown. We were misled by the power of suggestion, and when you look more closely you can see it's a butterfly landing on a petal."
This process started on the day of the demonstration, when live footage of mounted police charging into the crowd and swinging batons was accompanied by a reporter saying: "It looks as if the crowd are getting restless." This is a common disorder among news reporters, which ought to have a name such as "Confused Baton Charge Back-to-Front Bashed and Basher Syndrome". Sufferers would make novel boxing commentators, saying: "Audley Harrison is lashing out with tremendous aggression there as he stares with a blank, concussed expression into the paramedic's torch."
They might also consider Alfie Meadows, who was so restless he ended up in hospital in a critical condition, having a brain operation after being whacked with a police truncheon. It has also emerged that, when he arrived there, the police insisted he should be taken somewhere else as that hospital was to be used only by their officers. So there seems to be a misunderstanding of how hospitals work, with the Metropolitan Police under the impression they have the same system as restaurants. So you arrive unconscious, then a porter says, "Do you have a reservation?" But if it's busy you get told, "I'm sorry sir, we're fully booked this evening. The police have taken all three wards I'm afraid, but if you survive the night you're welcome to see if we've a brain surgeon available tomorrow."
And yet most coverage of the demonstration has surrounded the violence of the students. Maybe this is because most reporters and politicians believe with such fervour the police are innately honourable, and demonstrators are troublesome, they can't help but see such a one-sided view. But imagine the uproar if a policeman had needed a brain operation after being hit by a student, or if students announced that following recent events they were investigating getting a water cannon, or that a reporter might angrily ask Camilla, "But there's been a suggestion you were rolling towards the demonstrators."
Or maybe the incident with Jody McIntyre is nothing to do with students, and this is the new test for anyone on disability benefit. The police sling you on the floor, poke you about a bit, and if you manage to roll anywhere, there is clearly nothing wrong with you and you get your payments cut. http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/com...60454.html
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
Quote:Brown’s tour de force would have been even more awe-inspiring had he not left out the following important questions for McIntyre:
Why do you care about tuition fees if you’re not in school?
In your poetry you mention something about “coke lines.” Is it possible that you were under the influence of illegal substances when the alleged incident with the police occurred?
If it’s true, as you say, that you can’t operate your wheelchair by yourself, how did you get to the studio today?
The Iranian foreign ministry has also expressed disapproval over police handling of demonstrations in London. Does this mean that you approve of hanging political dissidents?
Has it not occurred to you to thank the metropolitan police for removing you from a potentially dangerous situation?
Speaking of the Palestinians, is that where you learned how to provoke casualties?
Do you have an official doctor’s note certifying that you have cerebral palsy?
Peter Presland
".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims" Guido Preparata. Preface to 'Conjuring Hitler'[size=12][size=12] "Never believe anything until it has been officially denied" Claud Cockburn
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