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Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, is expected to appear in a UK court tomorrow!
However some are reporting that Marianne Ny has not quit.
Quote:Australian media reports also said that chief prosecutor Marianne Ny had quit the case, which was declined by the country's Prosecution Authority (Ã…klagarmyndigheten) on Thursday when contacted by Swedish press.

"Ny still heads the investigation and is responsible for the case," spokeswoman Britta von Schoultz told the Expressen newspaper.
http://www.thelocal.se/47002/20130328/#.UVTuSjcriSo

While Wikileaks has tweeted
Quote:Nye "has not quit the Assange case formally rather that there is a new 'investigator,'"
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Not yet sure what to make of this judge. Assange was rightly aghast that a Swedish appeals court judge would travel to Australia to discuss his case. It was noted by local legal beagles as 'highly unusual'. Is he sent by Sweden as a way to extricate themselves from an awkward situation they no longer wish to participate in? Is he sent by Sweden (and/or others) to create a false sense of security that the case is now in tatters and Assange really has nothing to worry about so that more pressure can be brought to bare on his extradition there to deal with a formality only to be rendered to the US for some secret grand jury trial? Will this change any thing?

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Swedish judge says allegations against Assange are 'a mess'






By Anne Sewell Apr 3, 2013 - 15 hours ago in World
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Adelaide - A top Swedish judge has told the media that the case against Julian Assange is "a mess." He has further defended the release of classified information by WikiLeaks, saying "It should never be a crime to make known crime of a state."
According to the Australian Associated Press, Stefan Lindskog was speaking to an audience at a public lecture at Adelaide University. Lindskog is one of 16 justices working for the Supreme Court in Sweden, and reportedly he listed legal obstacles to extraditing the 41-year-old Australian to the United States from Sweden. He said that the case in Sweden against Assange has turned into a legal "mess," and was critical of the Swedish criminal investigation, saying that "Basically, I think there are some misunderstandings, especially when it comes to the issue of extradition." Lindskog also indicated that the Swedish courts may rule against sending the WikiLeaks founder to the US, due to some conditions of an existing extradition treaty between Sweden and the USA. "Extradition shall not be granted when alleged crimes [are] military or political in nature," Lindskog said. Further, the judge said that it was debatable whether Assange has actually committed a crime under Swedish law. "What is classified under US law is probably not classified under Swedish law, and enemies to the US may not be enemies to Sweden," he was quoted by AAP as saying. Lindskog stressed that the extensive media coverage of the case has brought about public distrust in the legal system. "I think it is a mess," he said. Besides the support for Assange, Judge Lindskog apparently also supports Pfc. Bradley Manning, who is facing a court martial for releasing classified information to WikiLeaks. He hopes that Manning will go through a fair trial. Lindskog went on to praise Assange's public information campaign, saying, "He'll be thought of as a person who made public some pieces of classified information to the benefit of mankind." "It should never be a crime to make known (a) crime of a state," he added. WikiLeaks founder Assange remains holed up in the Ecuadorian embassy in London where he has stayed since applying for, and receiving, political asylum in that country last year. He is wanted for questioning on the sexual allegations in Sweden, but has avoided extradition to Sweden as it is feared that should he travel to Stockholm, he would then be sent on to the US on espionage charges and possibly even the death penalty for the release of thousands of classified US diplomatic cables, some about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:Not yet sure what to make of this judge. Assange was rightly aghast that a Swedish appeals court judge would travel to Australia to discuss his case. It was noted by local legal beagles as 'highly unusual'. Is he sent by Sweden as a way to extricate themselves from an awkward situation they no longer wish to participate in? Is he sent by Sweden (and/or others) to create a false sense of security that the case is now in tatters and Assange really has nothing to worry about so that more pressure can be brought to bare on his extradition there to deal with a formality only to be rendered to the US for some secret grand jury trial? Will this change any thing?

Personally, I don't think the US will ever take its foot off the pedal of revenge, so I'm concluding it's a "false sense" of security in order to draw him out...
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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David Guyatt Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:Not yet sure what to make of this judge. Assange was rightly aghast that a Swedish appeals court judge would travel to Australia to discuss his case. It was noted by local legal beagles as 'highly unusual'. Is he sent by Sweden as a way to extricate themselves from an awkward situation they no longer wish to participate in? Is he sent by Sweden (and/or others) to create a false sense of security that the case is now in tatters and Assange really has nothing to worry about so that more pressure can be brought to bare on his extradition there to deal with a formality only to be rendered to the US for some secret grand jury trial? Will this change any thing?

Personally, I don't think the US will ever take its foot off the pedal of revenge, so I'm concluding it's a "false sense" of security in order to draw him out...

I agree with Dave, but to the first part, WHY would a Judge go to Australia to discuss his case, when prosecutors and all others refuse to go to the UK to interview, interrogate Assange himself??~!! I think the fix is in...and Assange is likely going to die in the Embassy ,however, its better than Gitmo!
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:
David Guyatt Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:Not yet sure what to make of this judge. Assange was rightly aghast that a Swedish appeals court judge would travel to Australia to discuss his case. It was noted by local legal beagles as 'highly unusual'. Is he sent by Sweden as a way to extricate themselves from an awkward situation they no longer wish to participate in? Is he sent by Sweden (and/or others) to create a false sense of security that the case is now in tatters and Assange really has nothing to worry about so that more pressure can be brought to bare on his extradition there to deal with a formality only to be rendered to the US for some secret grand jury trial? Will this change any thing?

Personally, I don't think the US will ever take its foot off the pedal of revenge, so I'm concluding it's a "false sense" of security in order to draw him out...

I agree with Dave, but to the first part, WHY would a Judge go to Australia to discuss his case, when prosecutors and all others refuse to go to the UK to interview, interrogate Assange himself??~!! I think the fix is in...and Assange is likely going to die in the Embassy ,however, its better than Gitmo!

Yep, the fix is in. The visit to Australia is to reach an agreement and coordinate matters to everyone's mutual satisfaction. Except Assange, of course.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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Swedish judge says Assange allegations 'a mess'

April 3, 2013 10:10 AM EST |

ADELAIDE, Australia A senior Swedish judge said Wednesday that the sex crime allegations in his country against fugitive WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange are "a mess."

In a speech at Australia's University of Adelaide, Justice Stefan Lindskog, chairman of the Supreme Court of Sweden, listed legal obstacles to extraditing the 41-year-old Australian to the United States to face prosecution for exposing thousands of classified documents.

Assange has taken asylum in the Ecuadorean Embassy in London since last June to avoid extradition to Sweden on sex crime allegations.

He is wanted in Sweden for questioning over criminal allegations made by two women. But Assange says the Swedish allegations are a ploy to get him to Sweden from where he would be extradited to the United States.

The U.S. Department of Justice has been investigating WikiLeaks since the secret-busting website began distributing hundreds of thousands of classified U.S. documents. But few details of that investigation have been made public.

Lindskog was critical of the Swedish criminal investigation.

"I think it is a mess," he said.

"Basically, I think there are some misunderstandings, especially when it comes to the issue of extradition," he added, without elaborating.

Lindskog suggested that Sweden's extradition treaty with the United States would not apply to Assange.

"Extradition shall not be granted when alleged crimes (are) military or political in nature," he said.

U.S. soldier Bradley Manning last month admitted sending Iraq and Afghanistan battlefield reports, State Department diplomatic cables, other classified records and two battlefield video clips to WikiLeaks in 2009 and 2010. WikiLeaks posted some of the material, embarrassing the U.S. and its allies.

Assange has refused to say whether he had any dealings with Manning, but he called him a political prisoner and said his prosecution was part of an effort by the U.S. to clamp down on criticism of its military and foreign policy.

Lindskog praised Assange's public information campaign.

"He'll be thought of as a person who made public some pieces of classified information to the benefit of mankind," he said.

"It should never be a crime to make known (a) crime of a state," he added.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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David Guyatt Wrote:
Peter Lemkin Wrote:
David Guyatt Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:Not yet sure what to make of this judge. Assange was rightly aghast that a Swedish appeals court judge would travel to Australia to discuss his case. It was noted by local legal beagles as 'highly unusual'. Is he sent by Sweden as a way to extricate themselves from an awkward situation they no longer wish to participate in? Is he sent by Sweden (and/or others) to create a false sense of security that the case is now in tatters and Assange really has nothing to worry about so that more pressure can be brought to bare on his extradition there to deal with a formality only to be rendered to the US for some secret grand jury trial? Will this change any thing?

Personally, I don't think the US will ever take its foot off the pedal of revenge, so I'm concluding it's a "false sense" of security in order to draw him out...

I agree with Dave, but to the first part, WHY would a Judge go to Australia to discuss his case, when prosecutors and all others refuse to go to the UK to interview, interrogate Assange himself??~!! I think the fix is in...and Assange is likely going to die in the Embassy ,however, its better than Gitmo!

Yep, the fix is in. The visit to Australia is to reach an agreement and coordinate matters to everyone's mutual satisfaction. Except Assange, of course.
And why travel all the way to Australia when they wont even travel to London to interview him?
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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David Guyatt Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:Not yet sure what to make of this judge. Assange was rightly aghast that a Swedish appeals court judge would travel to Australia to discuss his case. It was noted by local legal beagles as 'highly unusual'. Is he sent by Sweden as a way to extricate themselves from an awkward situation they no longer wish to participate in? Is he sent by Sweden (and/or others) to create a false sense of security that the case is now in tatters and Assange really has nothing to worry about so that more pressure can be brought to bare on his extradition there to deal with a formality only to be rendered to the US for some secret grand jury trial? Will this change any thing?

Personally, I don't think the US will ever take its foot off the pedal of revenge, so I'm concluding it's a "false sense" of security in order to draw him out...

I totally agree. Look what is happening to Manning. I half expect Obama will arrange to have a drone find its way to Assange. No heart attack, an outright hit. In our faces is the preferred method employed by our Nazi government. I mean look at JFK. (Salandria said it best , quoted in Fonzi's Last Investigation).
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Burnside says optimism in Assange case is premature

1 May, 2013http://www.lawyersweekly.com.au/Wig-Cham...qus_thread comments




High-profile barrister Julian Burnside QC has warned that a speech by Supreme Court Judge Stefan Lindskog, which attracted extensive media attention, "gives cause for optimism" when Julian Assange is still very much at risk of being extradited to the US.
Lindskog defended the leaking of classified information and described the case against Assange as "a mess" in a public lecture held at Adelaide University last month (3 April).
"[Assange] will be thought of as a person who made public some pieces of classified information to the benefit of mankind," said Lindskog. "It should never be a crime to make known [a] crime of a state."
Lindskog was joined in a panel discussion on freedom of speech in Australia by Burnside (pictured), who applauded the judge for raising questions over the legality of the US being able to extradite Assange via Sweden. Burnside warned, however, that Lindskog's speech could "lull the Australian public into a sense of security".
There are circumstances of "real concern", said Burnside, including the fact that Assange has embarrassed the US government, prominent Americans have called for him to be assassinated or tried for espionage, and Sweden has a witness surrender agreement with the US.
Burnside also highlighted that the mainstream press, which republished secret US military documents released by WikiLeaks in 2010, gave the material much greater exposure.
"The freedom of the press, it seems, depends on whether the news outlet in question has the favour of the American government," he added.
In 2011, Burnside wrote a letter to the Australian Attorney-General asking, among other questions, if Australia had enquired whether US authorities are investigating Assange and intend to seek to have Assange transferred from Sweden to the US.
The Attorney-General's reply did not provide clear answers, said Burnside, which led him to believe that either Australia was aware of American plans from which Assange needed protection, or had suspicions about American plans and preferred to turn a blind eye.
"Neither of those conclusions is consistent with Australia's obligations to one of its citizens ... it seems to me that the Gillard Government has abandoned Assange," he added.
Another barrister and former head of the Australian Lawyers Alliance, Greg Barns, revealed this month that he will run the WikiLeaks Party's campaign for a seat in the Victorian Senate.
He told Lawyers Weekly in April that if Assange wins a Senate seat, it may "force the Australian Government's hand" to allow the controversial activist safe passage to Australia.
Lawyers Weekly's attempts to contact Burnside prior to publication were unsuccessful.
http://www.lawyersweekly.com.au/wig-cham...s-prematur
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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