Anyone want to discuss HARVEY & LEE?

[Dawn Meredith]

[quote=Albert Doyle]Funny how the trolls stay away from this.[sQUOTE

Waiting for Lifton's response to this damning letter.

[Joseph McBride]

So true, Dawn. As a result I value all the more you and John
Armstrong and others
who are serious researchers and try to avoid
getting drawn into internecine quarrels rather
than focusing on the evidence and on what can
still be learned about the case (i.e., a lot).

[Gordon Gray]

The problem with the assassination research community is they are by nature of an academic mindset. Ever try to get 20 academics in a room together and not have an argument? Over footnotes no less? I had the misfortune of teaching in a faculty run Ivy League college. You can't imagine how petty and tedious the faculty meetings were.

[Tracy Riddle]

Humans love to argue and fight about stuff. No other creature on earth fights about ideas and beliefs. Ever seen a group of sports fans, or civil war buffs, music buffs, or women arguing about cleaning products? Let's not even get into religion. I used to love watching Siskel and Ebert, especially when they disagreed about the same film. We are a strange species.

[Dawn Meredith]

JA's latest research:

In the 1960s there were two young men living in and around Greenwich Village (in New York City) named "Steve Landesberg." Although they were similar in age and appearance, there were distinct differences between them. One boy, Stephen Harris Landesberg (the student), was from Queens. He was quiet, introverted, kept to himself, a bookworm, and an honor student. He had black hair, a life-long speech impediment, stuttered profusely when excited, never wore glasses, and had no southern accent. The other boy, Stephen Richard Landesberg (a future actor), from the Bronx, was outgoing, likable and gregarious. He had reddish brown hair, occasionally wore rimless eyeglasses, enjoyed being around people, had no speech impediment, and acquired a Southern accent that he could use or not use at will. In late 1961 and early 1962 Stephen Richard Landesberg became entangled in activities involving the harassment of liberal and minority-oriented political groups that were active in and around the Village. During this time he befriended and became involved with American-born Lee Oswald, while at the same time Harvey Oswald and Marina were living in Russia. In the 1970s Stephen Richard Landesberg gained notoriety as an actor on the TV show, Barney Miller. The actor's relationship with Oswald motivated a number of JFK researchers, including author Carleton W. Sterling, Professor Stan Weeber (UNT, Denton, TX), attorney Carol Hewitt, author/researcher Joachim Joesten, and myself to investigate the two "Steve Landesbergs."


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Read the entire story at:


http://harveyandlee.net/Landesberg/Landesbergs.html

[Albert Doyle]

Landesberg said that "he was sorry he ever got mixed up with Oswald."

The lack of interest or follow-through should speak for itself. How could anyone make a comment like this on the American media and it have no follow-through? The US media has a black hole that things like this get sucked in to never to be seen again.

There's a very clear pattern of dopplegangers being used for clandestine intel purposes.


This would also lend credence to Anna Lewis insisting she first met Oswald in New Orleans in late winter to early spring 1962. A man whom she had no problem identifying as Oswald.


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[Dawn Meredith]

I wish John would shorten this piece and not delve into so many details, but he's a very detail oriented person. The upshot here is that several people- including two with the same first and last name, were involved with LEE, disrupting meetings in NY, while Harvey was in Russia. When "the student" called into the radio show on 11/22/63 to report his vast knowledge about Lee's activities in NY he had no way of knowing that the Patsy- Harvey- was actually in Russia at this time. So this became very troublesome for the FBI.

[Jim Hargrove]

The FBI went out of its way to cover-up the entire Landesberg affair, which would have exposed the two Oswalds within days of the assassination. The story Dawn linked above provides all the gory details, but a couple of examples: Instead of locating and interviewing an important witness to Lee Oswald's activities in NYC while Harvey Oswald was in Russia, the FBI questioned Earl Sheldon Perry instead of Earl Eugene Perry. In its effort to locate the paymaster for Landesberg's and Oswald's agent provacateur activities in NYC, the FBI went to the Roosevelt Hotel in New Orleans, instead of the Roosevelt Hotel in NYC, where the paymaster stayed. Even more importantly, the FBI substituted and made a patsy of a student named Stephen Harris Landesberg, instead of interviewing the real provacateur who had worked with Oswald, Stephen Richard Landesberg, who later became an actor on the Barney Miller television show.


There is much more to this coverup, including the disappearance of all U.S. District Court files and backup files related to the commitment of Landesberg the Patsy to Bellevue Psychiatric Hospital for the crime of "lying" to the FBI. Read the details here:

http://harveyandlee.net/Landesberg/Landesbergs.html

[Albert Doyle]

After the assassination of President Kennedy Steve L'eandes (the actor), wearing a nice suit and tie, saw his friend Al Fowler walking in the Village and approached him. Fowler's friend no longer had a southern accent, and was now openly using the name Stephen (Richard) Landesberg. Landesberg (the actor) offered Fowler $600 to fly to Montreal and bring back a small package, contents unknown. Fowler refused the offer.

The above is important because we are into CIA spook tactics with Fowler either being arrested for heroin importation or blown-up in a mid-air explosion. L'eandes is showing his true original status here and covert relationship to the CIA double Oswald.


The student Landesberg could have simply been a scapegoat for the actor in case he got caught.


CIA's Wikipedia obviously avoids his early period:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Landesberg



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[Jim Hargrove]

This additional info on Al Fowler is news to me. Thanks.

Also, anyone interested in the early FBI reports on the Landesberg incident can grab them online from the Armstrong Collection at Baylor University:

[URL="http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm/ref/collection/po-arm/id/42754"]
http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm...m/id/42754[/URL]

Easiest way to read the docs is to click the download button near the top right of the Baylor page above and then open them up locally.