Anyone want to discuss HARVEY & LEE?

[Albert Doyle]

What was the specific purpose for placing Oswald at Dolly Shoe?

[Jim Hargrove]

Russian-speaking Harvey Oswald DID work at Dolly Shoe at the time the forged W-2 form indicates. What the FBI was hiding was the fact that Harvey worked there FULL TIME, at the same time American-born Lee Oswald was attending the 9th grade at Beauregard Junior High. That's why the Dolly Shoe form had to be fabricated. The other forged W-2 forms were created to shift dates.


From the 1955 page on the H&L website:

In February, 1955 fifteen-year-old HARVEY Oswald and his caretaker/mother began working for the Dolly Shoe Company in New Orleans. Store owner Maury Goodman, store manager Louis Marzialle, and co-workers Rita Paveur and Francis Mouton said that both (HARVEY) Oswald and his mother worked full time at the shoe store. Mr. Goodman asked Mrs. Oswald (heavy-set impostor) to fill out bonding forms that were required by the company's insurance group. A few months later, after repeated requests for the forms went unanswered, Goodman had no choice but to terminate Mrs. Oswald. Store manager Louis Marzialle (click here for YouTube interview) fired young (HARVEY) Oswald a short time later. Louis clearly remembered that day, as it was the day his first son was born. While HARVEY Oswald was working full time at Dolly Shoe, LEE Oswald was in the 9th grade at Beauregard Junior High, with a near perfect attendance record (January through May, 1955).

Following the assassination the FBI confiscated all records relating to (HARVEY) Oswald from Dolly Shoe--including time cards, payroll checks, federal and Louisiana income tax statements, payments to Social Security, W-2 forms, Dept. of Labor approval for child employment, and they also confiscated school records from Beauregard Junior High School. In an honest investigation these documents would have been preserved and made available to the public. But these records showed that (HARVEY) Oswald worked full time at Dolly Shoe, while LEE Oswald attended Beauregard JHS at the same time. These records could never be made public. Something had to be done. While in FBI custody, all original documents from Dolly Shoe were destroyed, and quickly replaced with photographs of fabricated documents. The FBI never gave the WC a single verifiable employment record or cancelled check or anything from Dolly Shoe that confirmed Oswald's dates of employment. Instead the FBI fabricated a single document in order to create the appearance that one person, Lee Harvey Oswald, had worked part-time at Dolly Shoe and attended Beauregard JHS at the same time during the spring of 1955. That document was a 1955 W-2 form and was likely created at FBI headquarters between November 23 and November 25, 1963 (see below).

The full page (it's relatively short), can be read here: http://harveyandlee.net/1955/1955.html

[Albert Doyle]

This is clearly actionable proof of government conspiracy.



The Kennedy researchers who deny this are either misguided analyzers with poor skills or government infiltrators pretending to be credible investigators. This one case of evidence can be used to interpolate the entire conspiracy.

[Drew Phipps]

I am curious why, if the government had the correct employer ID number for Dolly Shoes from one of the true 1955 records, would it have been necessary to make a fake employer ID number in January 1964?

[Jim Hargrove]

Yes, I've wondered about that too. I'll try to remember to ask John if he has thoughts about that question next time we talk.

The current website, and the book, don't include the arguments about the IRS letter from Della Sanford stating the EIN from Dolly Shoe was issued in January 1964. Instead, both point out that none of "Oswald's" pre-Marine Corps income appears on his Social Security Administration lifetime earnings report. There are other arguments as well.

The W-2s do not appear on the DPD inventory and are not initialed by Rose et al. They appear when "Oswald's possessions" were secretly returned to Dallas after being secretly sent to Washington. It seems unlikely to me that "Oswald" would have held onto these teenaged records through all his various moves.

[Albert Doyle]

Because the correct number might induce a clever researcher to trace the document. This might accidentally turn up the true W-2 document which showed Oswald's true full-time employment and reveal the conflict. A false number would make sure no one traced the real W-2 and its exposing information.

[Drew Phipps]

That makes me wonder again about the EI number. Since the secret exchange of evidence occurred in November 1963.

[Jim Hargrove]

I corresponded briefly with John A. He no longer thinks the EIN for Dolly Shoe was faked, but that the W-2 clearly was. That's why he didn't include the IRS letter to Goodman in Harvey and Lee.

When I personally talked to the IBM font specialist who told me that, in her opinion, all three W-2 forms in question were typed on the same machine, that pretty much sealed the deal for me. The fact that the income doesn't show up on the SSA's Lifetime Earnings statement, and that SSA responded to the HSCA with copies of pages from the Warren Report, also shows that something is very, very wrong here.

[Michael Cross]

I corresponded briefly with John A. He no longer thinks the EIN for Dolly Shoe was faked, but that the W-2 clearly was. That's why he didn't include the IRS letter to Goodman in Harvey and Lee.

When I personally talked to the IBM font specialist who told me that, in her opinion, all three W-2 forms in question were typed on the same machine, that pretty much sealed the deal for me. The fact that the income doesn't show up on the SSA's Lifetime Earnings statement, and that SSA responded to the HSCA with copies of pages from the Warren Report, also shows that something is very, very wrong here.

Agreed. The combination of the EIN date, the SSA record and the font information is damning.

[Albert Doyle]

If the EIN was from 1964 how could it not be faked?