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What's happening in Greece right now
#11
Here is a livestream from Greece.It's dated the 20th,so I don't know if this is from yesterday or Today.

http://www.livestream.com/stopcarteltvgr
"You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
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#12
Well,the Greek Govt.passed the harsh austerity measures.I think the Shit is gonna really hit the old fan now!!!OH MY.........Viking
"You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
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#13
When the protestors and average citizens can muster over one million bodies in the streets of Athens alone...the Gov't is in deep ****! [along with the Western Banksters behind them]. I only wish we could get angry crowds of righteous indignation of that number in the USA!.....but in the USA too many are passive or afraid or brainwashed - or some combination of that. Greece was the cradle of ideas of modern democracy and seems to have retained a sense of that. They also do NOT forget how the USA screwed them by imposing a fascist coup. Now, IMHO, a very secretive neo-fascist coup has been imposed on the USA, but it fooled most Americans and they refuse to see it, unlike their Greek brothers and sisters. Having been to Greece many times and knowing the calm and gentle nature of most Greeks -they are slow to anger...but they are angry now and not going to take it any more.....like Argentina. A model to be followed by more - if not everyone! Leave the banksters and would-be rulers of the World sitting in their own debt with no one to control.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#14

GREEK MILITARY CHIEFS REPLACED

November 2nd, 2011Via: Telegraph:
As Greek poltics grew ever more chaotic strong political protests erupted as the government moved to replace military chiefs with officers seen as more supportive of George Papandreou, the prime minister.
In a surprise development, Panos Beglitis, Defence Minister, a close confidante of Mr Papandreou, summoned the chiefs of the army, navy and air-force and announced that they were being replaced by other senior officers.
Neither the minister nor any government spokesman offered an explanation for the sudden, sweeping changes, which were scheduled to be considered on November 7 as part of a regular annual review of military leadership retirements and promotions. Usually the annual changes do not affect the entire leadership.
"Under no circumstances will these changes be accepted, at a time when the government is collapsing and has not even secured a vote of confidence," said an official announcement by the opposition conservative New Democracy party.
"It has no moral or real authority any more, and such surprise moves can only worsen the crisis currently sweeping the country".
Flashback: Greece: Possibility of a Military Coup?
Posted in Collapse, Dictatorship, Economy, Elite
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#15

Markets Dive on Greek Referendum

November 1st, 2011Via: BBC:
US and European markets have fallen following Monday's announcement of a Greek referendum on the latest aid package to solve its debt crisis.
Eurozone leaders agreed a 50% debt write-off for Greece last week as well as strengthening Europe's bailout fund.
But the Greek move has cast doubt on whether the deal can go ahead.
New York's Dow Jones fell 2% on opening. London's FTSE 100 was down 3%, while the Dax in Frankfurt and the Cac 40 in Paris were down about 5%.
Shares in banks saw the biggest falls, with Societe Generale falling 16.9%, BNP Paribas down 14%, Credit Agricole down 12.9%, Commerzbank falling 10.7%, Deutsche Bank down 10.3% and Barclays 10.5% lower.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel is due to discuss the Greek announcement with French President Nicolas Sarkozy on the telephone.
Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi said it was "an unexpected decision that generates uncertainties".
Posted in Economy, Elite
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#16
Well, now, this is interesting....
Knew about the referendum this moring but just herd about the military chiefs replacement now. So, for months and months Georgy boy was fine to dance the banksters tune despite his people's wishes. Now in one day and with out notice he is changing the choice of music and band members? What ever they were offering him before he is now rejecting it. Will it be death metal, psychadelic rock, country AND western, Euro-Pop? :wirlitzer:
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#17

Greece: A Very Important Event

October 31, 2011 By Nikos Raptis

Nikos Raptis's ZSpace Page / ZSpace

In my ZNet Commentary, "Greece: 'The Odd Man Out'", of April 22, 2002, I mentioned:
"The palm-gesture...with all fingers extended apart... (known as 'moutza' [pronounced: moo'tza], of Byzantine, or French, or Venetian origin) is considered by the Greeks as the ultimate insult towards a person. There have been cases of one driver killing another one in a traffic incident after the exchange of such an insult."
Smedley D. Butler (also known as "Old Gimlet Eye") is considered to be the best soldier (Marine) that the American nation ever had. He was the most decorated Marine in US history.
In January 1931, Butler gave a speech in Philadelphia and mentioned a story told to him by a friend who as a guest of Mussolini [at that time Mussolini was considered by the US elites as "that dignified gentleman"] had been taken for a high-speed automobile ride through the Italian countryside. Mussolini hit a child and did not pay any attention. To the American guest's shock Mussolini replied: "What is one life in the affairs of a state."
Mussolini denied that he hit the child and protested. Major General Smedley D. Butler was arrested, for a week he was held almost incommunicado, and ordered court-martialed, by President Hoover, who apologized to Mussolini.
On October 28, 1940, Mussolini attacked Greece, the Greeks resisted for months and even managed to push the Italians into neighboring Albania, which had already been occupied by the Italians. Mussolini asked Hitler, his buddy, to help, and thus the Nazis and the Italians entered Athens in triumph. This resulted in the death of hundreds of thousands of Greeks from starvation, in 1941. I was ten years old and experienced everything.
Four years later, in 1945, Mussolini was hanged upside down by the ankles, together with his mistress, after he had been executed by shooting. Qaddafi was not that lucky.
So, the Greeks every October 28 celebrate their resistance against the Italians by having the pupils, the students, and the military parading in the cities and towns all over the country.

Larissa is the main city of Thessaly, the flat part of central Greece. The photo presented below shows what happened four days ago, on October 28, 2011, when the high schoolers of Larissa paraded in front of the representatives of the "official" state.


[Image: raptisgreece.jpg]
The high school kid, 16 or 17 years old, shows the disapproval
of an entire people, the Greek people, against the adult Greek "proxies"
of Merkel, Sarkozy, Hilary, and Obama.

Note, the uniforms of the brass with the Christian cross on their chests, the golden epaulets, etc. Also, the older officer on the right, with the grey mustache, is old enough to have been in active duty during the US-instigated military dictatorship of 1967.
The kid is now considered a hero of the Greek people. The photo is all over Greece, in every home.
Conclusion: Incidents like the one on the photo, took place in the entire (repeat: entire) country during the celebration for the October 1940 resistance. This is the beginning of a revolt.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#18
Why Prime minister Papandreou asked for a referendum to validate the EU solution?
Now if you are begging Europe to save you, they agree to a solution you don't suddenly decide to blow everything.
there are two answers: either you are an idiot or you have a hidden agenda.
Papandreou does not have the guts or intelligence to go against Merkel and Sarkozy so somebody is behind him and moves his strings.
George Soros said a few days after the EU solution that he thinks the Eurozone deal will only last a short time, from one day to 3 months.
And a few days later Papandreou makes whatever is possible to prove him right.
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#19
Magda Hassan Wrote:Greece: A Very Important Event

October 31, 2011 By Nikos Raptis

Nikos Raptis's ZSpace Page / ZSpace

In my ZNet Commentary, "Greece: 'The Odd Man Out'", of April 22, 2002, I mentioned:
"The palm-gesture...with all fingers extended apart... (known as 'moutza' [pronounced: moo'tza], of Byzantine, or French, or Venetian origin) is considered by the Greeks as the ultimate insult towards a person. ...."


[Image: raptisgreece.jpg]
The high school kid, 16 or 17 years old, shows the disapproval


of an entire people, the Greek people, against the adult Greek "proxies"


of Merkel, Sarkozy, Hilary, and Obama.


I thought about posting this wonderful piece but refrained, in part because I did not know if there were a global translation or equivalent for the famous gesture. In America -- where there is something similar afoot, co-opted and infiltrated as it appears to be, but which also appears to be being rejected-- we are much more efficient as we use only one finger. Other cultures use a full arm gesture. Other cultures actually perform the gesture in the form of torture, sexual abuse, murder, and abombinations of other sorts, such as was done to the Libyan recently.

Perhaps one service we here at Deep Politics Forum might perform is to find or perfect that universal global gesture-symbol and make it a meme.
"Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"
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#20

Former Federal Reserve Economist Likely Next Prime Minister of Greece

Posted on November 8, 2011 by willyloman
from Economic Policy Journal
From the "You Can't Make This Up Desk"…
"Lucas Papademos will be as of tomorrow the new prime minister of the country after the agreement that the outgoing Prime Minister George Papandreou and the opposition head Antonis Samaras reached last night," reports the Greek daily Ta Nea.
Papademos is a 100% bankster tool. There will never ever be even the suggestion of a referendum on any program the banksters want passed. It will simply be passed.
Papademos is currently a visiting professor of public policy at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University. He was previously a vice president of the European Central Bank and also served as a senior economist at the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston.
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From Wikipedia: He has served as Senior Economist at the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston in 1980. He joined the Bank of Greece in 1985 as Chief Economist, rising to Deputy Governor in 1993 and Governor in 1994. During his time as Governor of the national bank, Mr Papademos was involved in Greece's transition from the drachma to the euro as its national currency.[SUP][3][/SUP]
After leaving the Bank of Greece in 2002, Papademas became the Vice President toJean-Claude Trichet at the European Central Bank from 2002 to 2010. In 2010 he left that position to serve as an advisor to George Papandreou.[SUP][4][/SUP]
He has been a member of the Trilateral Commission since 1998.

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