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Douglas Valentine Wrote:Hi Charles,
Many thanks for the warm welcome. Alas, I can't help you with your specific questions. I didn't know that Patriarca knew Rosselli, though, if I remember, Rosselli's real name was F Sacco and he was from Boston. I know nothing about RP and Rosselli in 1963. I was told that Patriarca for a period of time played the official role of referee in Mafia disputes. That may be later. Patriarca figured in the Harrelson-Wood case, as did his butttonman Sal Caruana. Etc.
Don't know Red Kelly, and must admit up front, I don't know many details about the JFK case. I read I Was Castro's Prisoner by John M(something) which was very revealing and which I recommend. Who was Kelly?
I don't think I know of the "bonded vault" case either.
And I don't know about Resnick, though I'm pretty sure Jimmy Chagra laundered his drug money in vegas and Chagra moved drugs to Patriarca's clan in in Boston and worked with his people in Florida, maybe Tennessee too (I think) I guess Texas too.
Sorry
No apology necessary.
I'm sorry to be circumspect now, but certain projects are at critical stages of research.
Lerner and Kelly were RP associates -- the former was muscle, the latter a gifted time-motion analyst (although God knows that term wasn't applied to him by his peers). It is alleged that Rosselli asked RP for their services. I tend to doubt this story, but inquiries continue.
On August 14, 1975, the Hudson Fur Storage (aka Bonded Vault) company's commercial safe deposit boxes were raided by RP-connected thieves. The back stories conflict, a recent Providence TV station's "documentary" on the event was superficial, and strong leads continue to indicate a deep politics-related aspect to the event.
In any case, thanks for your very prompt response. If we may be of assistance to you in your current and future projects, please don't hesitate to ask.
Best,
Charles
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I'm glad to help if I can, and appreciate your offer, that's very kind. And thanks for filling me in on those people and events.
I had a keen interest in the 1978 Blackfriar's Massacre case, which involved Patriarca people, and the big marijuana bust at Foley's Cove, which was probably connected - all this pertained to the Woods-Harrelson investigation and the Chagras. People are mentioning Harrelson's assassination of Judge Wood while talking about the federal judge killed Sunday in Tucson...
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(This post was last modified: 12-01-2011, 07:15 PM by Peter Lemkin.)
Doug, the DEA Cables thread is HERE I'm sure most here would very much like to hear what your 'take' is on the information contained within them. There are other threads on your work and books. I'll locate them in a few minutes....one has to use an external search engine, like google.
Here is another on your piece re: Bruce Lawler I'd be interested for you to 'update' what he is doing now and any changes/additions/corrections you'd make if you were writing this article or one like it now.
There are others, but I'll find them in a bit......sorry the internal search engine is not working temporarily.
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Doug
I need to eat breakfast and start my day off.The thread about My Lai can be found HERE.I'm thinking that we should use that thread instead of filling up this one with a multitude of subjects.
"You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.â€
Buckminster Fuller
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Hi Peter,
I was able to access the Lawlor article. Haven't read that in 7 + years. I don't feel the need to edit it. I don't know what Lawlor is up to now.
I could not get to the Wikileaks Drug page, egads, the link didn't work.
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ok Keith, sounds good, though that link said Error 404 can't find page.
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Doug - I echo the hearty welcome to DPF.
The My Lai thread is here
Another thread on the current incarnations of Phoenix is here
There is plenty more discussion of your work and its implications across DPF.
I see Gladio and Phoenix as the ugly sisters of the second half of the C20th, whose mutated offspring curse us still today.
However, the truth about Gladio and Phoenix continues to be suppressed, or ignored.
Since you are the primary chronicler of Phoenix, we are delighted to see you here.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."
Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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Sorry Doug, yes that link to the DEA cables is not correct. Found it and corrected above...but don't have to go there. Press your mouse button HERE!
Sorry! [If nothing else, this Forum has the best 'smileys'....and some very sharp people. You are most welcome here. Will hunt for the rest of the materials related to your work soon. :captain:
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"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
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The My Lai thread grew out of this one about John Yoo
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."
Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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Many thanks, Jan, those links worked.
I look forward to many interesting discussions.
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