06-05-2011, 06:23 AM (This post was last modified: 06-05-2011, 06:44 AM by Peter Lemkin.)
Another great piece, above, from Ruppert. As I stated way back at the beginning of the thread, while it is not my field, I do have a background sufficient to read the technical literature in the field, and did some searches on the internet about how fast a DNA 'match' could be done...and came up with 3-4 days the usual and they usually are needed to be done ASAP. So, even in an emergency situation (sic), maybe one could stay up all night, have a dedicated team with all ready - and cut it down to half (1.5 -2 days)....but they 'did it' in less than 0.5 days! So, the whole story is bogus as a wooden nickel; as one can see from all the other parts of the 'story' that they had to change and more coming, no doubt. Its the same kind of scientific [let alone just plain] lies we were told about how the WTC collapsed; why no interceptors were able to engage the errant aircraft, why no 'Muslims' were on the aircraft manifests nor in the DNA samples of pieces of flesh found, the anthrax attacks out of Ft. Deitrich not OBL's cave; Atta's love of cocaine, money from the ISI, sexy strippers, alcohol, and had many connections to US intel.....and one could go on....Pentagong, Let's Roll Flight....ad nauseum. Well the end of the story is as big a LIE as the beginning was with all the exercises that day and even one simulating an attack on the Pentagon and the WTC prior. They really take us for fools and if the MSM is any litmus test, most of the Sheeple are totally taken in - at best totally confused.
Since the live feed was shut off [now its official - whatever that means in a Government of lies] :loco: during the firefight attack on the compound that wasn't a firefight it seems, just an attack - then what were they all watching?! A time delayed version that was changed? An invented version scripted before? Nothing but a black screen? Some birds on the White House lawn out the window? This would all be funny if they weren't using this constant lie line as the main theme for everything the Empire does now - from saving the rich and abandoning the poor - to invading oil-rich nations and ignoring others, and worse.
We've all become 'used' to these kinds of outrageous lies - even those of us who see them clearly. What is needed now [and for such a long time] is some righteous anger / outrage turned into action to expose it to the Sheeple. The end is so very very near on so many fronts. Our 'leaders' are like the lead lemmings, leading the rest of the pack to and over the edge or into the sea. We, as humans, are right on that edge and the Americans and Brits sadly leading the way, IMHO.
As Pogo famously said, "We have met the enemy; and the enemy is us!"
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
(CNN) A graphic image of what was reported to be Osama bin Laden's bloodied face, which went viral on the Internet and was plastered on the front page of newspapers around the world, is a fake.
The lower part of the photograph, which shows his partially opened mouth and graying beard, is almost identical to another image of bin Laden published years ago. The upper half shows his wounds in detail greater than that of the rest of the photo and there are unusual and abrupt shifts in the coloration of his skin.
A photographer consulted by CNN said the gruesome photograph is most definitely not real.
"I have seen a great number of poorly Photoshopped images in my time as a photographer and I can tell by the pixels that it is a fake," said Kenna Lindsay, a New York-based photographer who works with composite images.
The Guardian newspaper in Britain reported the picture is actually a combination of two photographs: a bloodied corpse and a real image of bin Laden that was taken in 1998 and used by the Reuters news agency.
The doctored image blanketed the Internet in the hours after bin Laden's death and was picked up by news groups far and wide, in places like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Senegal and Iraq.
Meanwhile, U.S. officials are weighing whether to release an actual image of bin Laden's corpse. A photograph could help to convince doubters about his death, but it also could inflame passions against the United States.
"I'll be candid that there are sensitivities here in terms of the appropriateness of releasing photographs of Osama bin Laden in the aftermath of this firefight," White House Press Secretary Jay Carney told reporters Tuesday. "We're making an evaluation about the need to do that."
A senior government official involved in the discussions said a photo release could come as early as Tuesday.
A second government official familiar with intelligence matters said deliberations are leaning toward a release, but emphasized that the decision "isn't unanimous and everyone has understandable hesitation."
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This article is a few days old now. I believe the government has decided [probably from the beginning] to do with any photos what they said they did with the body...deep six them....[you'll never see 'em'] and the truth shall not be known!
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
Looks like a trophy and the boys do traditionally wear white tshirts. Understand why the US would be reluctant to show it to the Muslim world. Not much difference between this and Pearl.
Edit: What I thought was white tshirt is latex gloves lol. Different perspective.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
Translated to English by Sultan Hijazi at the TX Desk
ISLAMABAD: Former Pakistan Chief of Army Staff General ® Mirza Aslam Baig, Former Pakistan Navy Chief Admiral ® Iftikhar Sirohey, Air Chief Marshal ® Kaleem Saadat and Lt. Gen. ® Hamid Gul of the ISI have said there exist many suspicions and doubts against the alleged operation against "Osama bin Laden". The former military chiefs suggested Osama bin Laden was killed elsewhere and the US had staged a drama in an attempt to defame Pakistan and show the world that Osama bin Laden was allegedly in Pakistan.
The operation at Abbottabad is a false-flag which has become a question mark. The real facts will surface soon, America has made this purported "recent killing of Osama bin Laden" as an imperative to return from Afghanistan. A dead bin Laden will prove to be a bigger threat to the America.
Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari and Prime Minister Gilani should have protested against the terrestrial and aerial violation of Pakistan but they are themselves cheering the actions of the US administration.
Pakistan's Ex-Chief of Army Staff General ® Mirza Aslam Baig
The way in which the US conducted the operation at Abbottabad has left behind many doubts and suspicion. I feel Osama bin Laden has been killed in Afghanistan and the US staged a drama in Abbottabad to malign the country. It is very unfortunate that Pakistan's leadership did not react to and protest against the terrestrial and aerial violation of Pakistan's sovereignty, they should be ashamed of themselves. Our President and Prime Minister are cheering to the US administration.
The US staged the drama at Abbottabad to isolate Pakistan and try to get access to its nuclear installations. It is true that the US has technology and equipment which completely jammed the radars and communication systems in Pakistan. America has resorted to this drama to ease the load of problems on itself and Obama has started his re-election campaign on the basis of this operation. However, the killing of one Osama bin Laden will not influence or change the dynamics of the war in Afghanistan. Osama bin Laden is a philosophy and ideology for his followers, not merely an individual. Obama did what Bush could not, despite this, America's problems will not lessen. It will have to leave. Only one-sided "facts" are coming out about the alleged operation against "Osama bin Laden", the real facts are yet to unfold.
Pakistan's Ex-Chief of Navy Staff Admiral ® Iftikhar A. Sirohey
There is still a lot of confusion regarding the Abbottabad operation, the real facts will unfold themselves in the coming days. The real situation will be contradictory to the false-flag operation which America has carried out. The test of investigative journalists around the world has just begun. It is surprising that Osama bin Laden was allegedly residing at Abbottabad since the past 8 months and "no one else had knowledge of this" (according to America). My mind cannot accept the American perspective, the truth is something else. If we are to believe America's "truth", they should have shown the body of Osama bin Laden and shared the facts and evidence with the world' but the picture released is Osama bin Laden is about 20 years old when his beard used to be black, whereas Osama was aging at that time and his beard had started to whiten.
The modern equipment which America has can jam communication systems and radar installatins of any country. Pakistan has no technology to counter this. Myths and legends are floating around Pakistani media regarding the alleged "recent death" of Osama bin Laden. The facts are yet to surface. The purpose of this false-flag operation was to isolate and malign Pakistan. It is not possible that Pakistan's security agencies would not have noticed Osama's presence in Abbottabad if he was present here. Obama has staged this drama to campaign for his re-elections so that his popularity could skyrocket. America has unleashed 14,000 CIA agents (operatives and splinter cell miscreants) into Pakistan. The recent operation looks like it was planned in advance.
Pakistan's ex-Chief of Air Staff Air Chief Marshal ® Kaleem Saadat
America can stop the communication and radar systems of any country through electronic warfare. Pakistan has no alternative system to it. I cannot believe that Osama bin Laden was staying at Abbottabad for the past 8 years, my mind does not accept this. Whatever is being inferred from this is based on assumptions and only one side of the picture is being shown. Osama bin Laden's alleged picture released after the incident looks fake and Photoshopped. Many questions are still following regarding the operation. It seems America did the operation in Abbottabad to pressurize Pakistan. The event is not as it seems and being portrayed, the real facts will be something else. America can use this operation as an imperative to leave Afghanistan. The whole situation will be clear when proper authentic facts will emerge within a few days.
Pakistan's ex-Director General of the ISI, Lt. Gen. ® Hamid Gul
A dead Osama bin Laden will prove to be more dangerous for America. The false-flag operation and drama staged by the US at Abbottabad was staged only for Obama's re-election campaign. The US wants to hide its blunders and gain popularity by using the name of Osama bin Laden. America's problems will increase manifold after Osama's departure. Al Qaeda had announced war against Pakistan, their target was America all along. Al Qaeda has left Pakistan but the facts behind the drama which America staged in a hurry cannot be kept secret for long.
I do not know whether the US had taken our government into confidence before the Abbottabad operation but the apparent impression left by the American President's speech suggests Pakistan was by-passed on information. Something truly is fishy, considering the fact that America claims to have buried Osama's body in the sea and is not sharing evidence.
The one-sided "information" being shared with the media and the world at large is an attempt to malign and corner Pakistan. The rift between the CIA and ISI shows America did not deem it necessary to inform Pakistan about the Abbottabad operation.
America has made a huge mistake and the very arrogance with which America prides on itself will drown it. The real facts of the drama staged by the US will soon unfold and the conspiracy against Pakistan by the US will also fail. Translated to English by Sultan Hijazi at the TX Desk
Interior ministry sources while quoting an intelligence report said that they were taking photographs of the area and carrying electronic gadgets including cameras and a laptop.
These sources said that they were intercepted, questioned and later escorted back to Islamabad by the Pakistan security officials with the clear warning that they were crossing the red-line. Their cameras were confiscated; however, they were not formally arrested or thoroughly probed after they proved their diplomatic status.
Interior Secretary Chaudhry Qamar Zaman, who is presently abroad, could not be approached. However, his Additional Secretary Asif Nawaz, who is currently looking after the ministry as its acting secretary, when approached was unsure if he saw such a report or not.
"Frankly I don't recollect it. I might have disposed it in routine as fresh receipts are normally marked down and to the concerned agencies for necessary action," he said. The FO spokespersons despite repeated efforts was not available for her response on the matter.
According to an informed interior ministry source, the ministry not only received the information from the Punjab home department but the ISI is also aware of it.
The UK High Commission spokesperson when contacted responded, "This was a recreational hiking trip in the hills south of Murree. The group cooperated fully with the authorities." The UK HC though did not explain any further but a diplomatic source explained that out of three of the UK High Commission officials identified in the report, only one is a regular member of the mission.
According to the official report, four foreigners who were found in the forest area around Kahuta Atomic Plant on May 1 and intercepted in the afternoon included one US and three UK diplomats/officials. They include Ms Kilipna (or Kalitna) Merethy of the US Embassy while Mr Granyeer John Scort, Ms Exprece and Ms Angela Hyte were shown by the intelligence report as UK Embassy officials. Scort and Exprece were identified as having been associated with the International Committee of Red Cross (ICRC) wing of the embassy.
However, US embassy spokesperson Alberto Rodriguez when approached emailed to The News the following response: "A female American diplomat was hiking in the Murree area on Sunday, May 1. That person was accompanied by three other persons of British, Canadian and New Zealand nationalities. While hiking, the group was stopped and questioned by the police. They were stopped, we understand, because the caretaker of a local cell or radio tower was asked by the police to report anyone unfamiliar in the area. The US diplomat was asked for identification and complied with the request of the police officer to show her camera to him. The police official looked at the digital photos on the camera and subsequently returned the camera without deleting any pictures. The group was informed that they were hiking in a restricted area and were subsequently escorted to the outskirts of Islamabad. The group saw no signs or markers indicating that the area was restricted. The American diplomat fully complied with the appropriate travel procedures at the embassy. The group comprised various nationalities. The group was in Murree, as the police can attest to, not in Kahuta or near an atomic power plant. I urge you to go back to your source and verify the information that was provided to you, as I believe there are errors in fact that would put into question whatever other information you have received. I am sure with your contacts, you can easily verify everything I have said with the local police in the area."
However, the Special Branch Punjab report received by the Interior Ministry from the Punjab Home Department say: "On 01-05-2011 at about 1240 hours, the field staff of Special Branch, Punjab, came to know about the presence of few foreigners in the forest area of Punj Pir, PS (police station) Kahuta taking photographs of the area. Kahuta Atomic Plant is visible from this area. They were also found carrying electronic gadgets including laptops. The matter was immediately brought in to the notice of Federal Intelligence Agency who also reached there and took the custody of the foreigners." The report also contained the names of four foreigners as reflected earlier and identified as one American and three British.
Quoting the ISI report, the interior ministry source said that according to the ISI these four foreigners had gone there in a black Land Cruiser registration no Islamabad NS 857. They were intercepted initially by police around the restricted area of Kahuta atomic plant. When questioned, these foreigners were reported to have claimed that they were there for sightseeing.
Having unsatisfied with their response, the police is said to have called the security officials of the Special Planning Division, who questioned them, verified their identities and escorted them back to Islamabad only after a clear warning that they were found in the no-go area. Two of their cameras with which they had taken the photographs of the sensitive area were confiscated.
Although Pakistan has now innumerable nuclear sites, Kahuta Atomic Plant for being the first atomic site developed is globally recognised as one of the major nuke sites of Pakistan. There has been repeated efforts made by the western, American and Indian intelligence operators to spy on the Kahuta Atomic Plant but as yet not only this particular nuclear site but each and every nuclear installation of the country has been remained inaccessible and fully secure.
Only a couple of years back, some members of the US private company - DynCorp - reportedly containing CIA's under cover operators were found involved in spying and several of them were disengaged from the places like Sihala Police College where they were apparently imparting training of police officials but were alleged to have been spying on Kahuta Nuclear facility.
The Pakistani authorities noted suspected activities of certain members of DynCorp, which under a contractual obligation between Pakistan and the US, as was agreed during Musharraf's regime, was engaged in law enforcement training, security matters and air aviation cooperation here.
Some of the intelligence agencies including the ISI and IB had credible reports about the involvement of certain members of DynCorp in spying business. An intelligence agency had reported to the government in 2009 that three Americans alongwith a Pakistani had tried to trespass into restricted area of Kahuta Power Plant but the official security agency deployed at the check post got alerted and intercepted them when they crossed the check post and entered restricted area.
The Pakistani accompanying these Americans was a retired assistant director of the FIA, who while introducing himself as FIA officer had managed to free the Americans and returned. Through this trespassing, according to the official report, the Americans had tried to check the security arrangement for Kahuta Research Laboratories.
That very incident had played a vital role in moving out DynCorp men from Sihala Police college facility where they were allowed to train the police officials but were found in spying the country's nuclear facility.
According to security officials, three foreigners have been arrested from Naryan area at Abbottabad near the alleged compound of "Osama bin Laden" that was attacked by US SEALs earlier on May 1, 2011.
Sources reveal that the foreigners are of Arab origin and according to preliminary investigations, they reveal links with the British secret service MI6. One of them is reported to speak a little Urdu, the remaining two do not understand the language at all.
However, the investigations are still underway and the conclusive facts will be established within a few days. The arrested suspects were shifted to an undisclosed destination after locals noticed their suspicious activity near the compound.
Something is 'cooking'..and at first look it seems to me that the USG is thinking of moving into Pakistan, as they have in Afghanistan...either with [or without] Pakistani cooperation.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
None of the men look like OBL. Presumably he was on the USS Muslim Burials at Sea by then. Filmed by Pakistanis after the US had left about 1 hour after the deaths.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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