10-07-2011, 09:50 PM
This is a mail with some questions I tried to send to Mr. David Guyatt (too bad he is not on this forum anymore), but the email address I found isn't active. So I would like to share the same questions with all the people on this great forum, hoping to get some answers:
<<Hi David,
[...]I read your articles, and my "obession" is to find links and connections among various parapolitics events and organizations. I'm italian and so I'm particularly concerned in what its called "strategia della tensione" happened here between 1960 and early 1990, but it takes no time to understand that it was part of a bigger scenario of controlled destabilization going through all Europe (and not only).
Thanks to your article "the spoils of war" I read about the interpretation you give of the hoax order "Priority of Sion" and Rennes le Chateau mystery as a cover set up to hide the origins of the the gold plundered by the Nazi's. Time ago I asked you why you stated that the city of Annemasse could have been the strategic center of Gladio network, you told me to contact Guy Patton, this was his answer (through Andrew Gough):
Other people working on Gladio (like Daniel Ganser and Ole Tunander) knows nothing about that, so I'm looking for more hints on this specific point.
Digging up in the posts of the this forum http://andrewgough.co.uk/forum/ and in your articles, I was able to create a little organization chart (I attached the .txt file to this email) and I would like to know what do you think about that, and if you want to add other names and networks.
This "John Driscoll" (in 1980 he changed his name in Sean O' Driscoll and bought a castle in Ireland) seems to me to have had an important role in order to connect eversive right wing groups (under the umbrella of Priority of Sion) with the Stay Behind Gladio Network: he was the American Head of the NATO Mutual Weapons Development Program (MWDP) in Paris (so maybe he knew about the mysterious Hyperion language school, alleged "compensation room" and meeting point of various intelligence services? ) and, as you stated in the article "princes of plunder", he was a member of the Augustan society, and maybe through general Vernon Walters he knew Brian Crozier, one of the founding member of "Le Cercle". I found a little passage in the article of Ola Tunander "Democratic State vs. Deep State:Approaching the Dual State of the West" contained in "Government of the Shadows: Parapolitics and Criminal Sovereignty", where he links "Le Cercle" with the famous "Aginter Press", a cover base of Gladio.
But this article goes far further:
"[...]There were many overlapping members of Operation Gladio and Le Cercle. One major connection lay in a group known as The 61. Le Cercle director Brian Crozier, with many other Le Cercle members, oversaw the creation of this group. It's goals were, in Crozier's own words:
quote:
Do you know more on Driscoll, his relationships and the relationship between "Le Cercle", Gladio and The 61?
From the previous article:
[...] Another relationship between synarchy and Gladio lies in the Order of the Solar, one of the most notorious suicide cults of all time. A French researcher, Jean-Marie Abgrall,
quote:
That's one of my obsession: can we say that all this bunch of esoteric initiatic orders and chivalric orders (many of them born like mushrooms after WW2), the Augustan society, the "Ordre Souverain du Temple Solaire", the SMOM, the P2 here in Italy and many others were just not only a complex cover and extensions of political and intelligence influence sphere but even more the meeting rooms of high profile people co-opted in strategies of "destabilizing stabilization" and in the financial aspects of that? (btw if we accept that, herehence the discovers of Abgrall seems to give some kind of proof)
But the proofs are the real problems; its reductive to think that we are gonna discover documents where we can read plain and simple what happened and why, nor we can use pure deductive reasoning, because there are many possible interpretations from the few datas we know.
I can make up in my mind this little simple scheme: the three pillars of power, the political, the financial and the military one are respectively groups like "Le cercle" (and variations), groups like SMOM (and the various esoteric initiatic orders) and groups like Gladio (and variations, like old gehlen group, or "strange" left wing or right wing terrorist groups, organized crime, etc.).It reminds me of the Octopus, described by journalist Danny Casolaro, or the Nebula in the belgian ATLAS Dossier.
But now I need some kind of proof to argument this speculation. One good way could be the "follow the money" method. Quoting the previous article:
"[...]The main fund system of Gladio was the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, a private bank founded in London by Agha Hasan Abedi in 1972. It became known as one of the worst banking scandals of all time, as it was revealed as being controlled by the CIA and other intelligence agencies, as well as organized crime, as means to smuggle drugs, money, and weaponry to terrorism groups and fund black operations. The economic advisor to BCCI at one point was Le Cerlce president Julian Amery.
It was uncovered by CNN that Osama Bin Laden himself a major stockholder in the banking system, (see http://edition.cnn.com/2001/BUSINESS/09/26/binladen/ for more info) as was his brother, Salem bin Laden. Salem bin Laden is interesting to take a look at, because he was close friends with BCCI James R. Bath, who was also co-owner of an oil company known as Arbusto, with George W. Bush, whom he was close friends with. Bath even bought shares of Arbusto for James R. Bath, thus creating a link between the Bush and Bin Laden family via the CIA's black networks. Arbusto has even been indicated as a CIA front. Perhaps it is most important to take note that Halliburton, which profits so much from the War on Terror, was a principle financer of a shadowy European company known as Permindex. Other financers include various Texas based oil companies, many of which were Bush affiliated. The reason that Permindex is worth taking a look at it is because many have presented evidence that it was connected to the JFK assassination, thus bringing it in contact with JM WAVE and then the Gladio Networks. Furthermore, many members of Permindex have been revealed to have ties to Le Cercle members, so we can conclude that they are similar to the function of the BCCI.
The BCCI also reared it's head again the Iran-Contra scandal, in which many other people from the Gladio days make appearances. The most important thing to take note on Iran Contra was the drug smuggling and arms dealings. One source of funding to the Contras went through the Americares, an organization ran by a man named J. Peter Grace, who happens to be both a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and the head of the American division of the Knights of Malta (in fact, many researchers have wondered if the Knights of Malta were essential in the spreading of funds to the Contra rebels). Grace was also affiliated with Radio Liberty and Radio Free Europe (which promoted ideas of a Unified Europe), which was funded by the CIA and created by Reinhard Gehlen (mentioned above). [...]"
Other then BCCI, I remember the Clearstream scandals, or financiers like Genoud, do you know any other group like that? I really would like to know if there is a proof (I can think in some of the files in the archive of ex clearstream Ernest Backes, but I haven't his contact) about funds directed to groups like italian "red brigades" or right wing organizations.
Reading about the "red brigades" most known kidnapping, the Aldo Moro one, there are various hypotheses (seriously investigated even in parliamentary commissions) about two high profile men involved in the kidnapping: here you find two posts talking about that:
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2005/32...rince.html
http://avlesbeluskesexposed.blogspot.com...erion.html
"Shortly after Moro's assassination, LaRouche's associates in Italy published a pamphlet, "Who Killed Aldo Moro?" which drew attention to the oligarchical Caetani family in Rome, near whose palace Moro's body had been found. Later investigations by others charged that the actual head of Gladio was the English aristocrat Hubert Howard, a British intelligence official in World War II and for decades afterwards, who had married Princess Lelia Caetani, daughter of Roffredo Caetani, 17th Duke of Sermoneta. Howard and his wife lived in the Caetani palace, as did one Igor Markevich, a double or triple agent of Western, Israeli, and Soviet intelligence services. He and Howard were leaders of high-level "esoteric" masonry, and, according to some accounts, had led the "negotiations" with the Red Brigades for the freedom of Moroa convenient cover for constant liaison. British intelligence veteran Howard was also named by some as the secret head of Gladio. The account is credible. Howard was a member of one of the most powerful families in Britain, the Dukes of Norfolk, and the Catholic Howards had had intimate connections with the Italian aristocracy, particularly of Venice, since at least the 18th Century. "
Do you know any other informations on Markevich and expecially Howard? I can't find anything about Howard prior he settled down in palazzo Caetani (Moro dead body was found out this palazzo). He was a member of Augustan society or other groups?
Do you know anything about a Vietnam veteran named Peter Jackson Hauser?
On 23 march 1978, on an italian newspaper, there was the sequent notice : on Elba island was arrested an American citizen, Peter Jackson Hauser, decorated Vietnam veteran for false impersonation. He would be in possession of false German identity (Reinald Lahusen) and a brochure of the German terrorist organization RAF. After a quick process is presented as a "deserter" to the leaders of the American base at Pisa and from then will let lose his traces.
From my researches Peter Jackson Hauser is the son of Virginia Hill and Hans Hauser (aka "Norman Johann Hauser"): his mother was a Chicago Outfit courier born in 1916, linked to american mafia, who committed suicide in 1966 (informations on wikipedia and here), his father was a famous Austrian sky instructor born im 1911 and in 1974 he committed suicide too (more informations here and here). He died in a car accident in 1994. Maybe he has nothing to do with Moro kidnapping, maybe not.>>
<<Hi David,
[...]I read your articles, and my "obession" is to find links and connections among various parapolitics events and organizations. I'm italian and so I'm particularly concerned in what its called "strategia della tensione" happened here between 1960 and early 1990, but it takes no time to understand that it was part of a bigger scenario of controlled destabilization going through all Europe (and not only).
Thanks to your article "the spoils of war" I read about the interpretation you give of the hoax order "Priority of Sion" and Rennes le Chateau mystery as a cover set up to hide the origins of the the gold plundered by the Nazi's. Time ago I asked you why you stated that the city of Annemasse could have been the strategic center of Gladio network, you told me to contact Guy Patton, this was his answer (through Andrew Gough):
Quote:"I obtained the information through Roger-Rene Dagobert, who had since died. He had a friend who was in French Intelligence during and after the war and had extensive information on the French activities of SOE and the Stay-Behind operations called Glaive and Arc-en-Ciel. It didn't surprise me to learn about Annemasse in this regard due to its proximity to Switzerland. I don't have any independent verification of this but other information he provided has checked out. I am sorry I can't be of any more help."
Other people working on Gladio (like Daniel Ganser and Ole Tunander) knows nothing about that, so I'm looking for more hints on this specific point.
Digging up in the posts of the this forum http://andrewgough.co.uk/forum/ and in your articles, I was able to create a little organization chart (I attached the .txt file to this email) and I would like to know what do you think about that, and if you want to add other names and networks.
This "John Driscoll" (in 1980 he changed his name in Sean O' Driscoll and bought a castle in Ireland) seems to me to have had an important role in order to connect eversive right wing groups (under the umbrella of Priority of Sion) with the Stay Behind Gladio Network: he was the American Head of the NATO Mutual Weapons Development Program (MWDP) in Paris (so maybe he knew about the mysterious Hyperion language school, alleged "compensation room" and meeting point of various intelligence services? ) and, as you stated in the article "princes of plunder", he was a member of the Augustan society, and maybe through general Vernon Walters he knew Brian Crozier, one of the founding member of "Le Cercle". I found a little passage in the article of Ola Tunander "Democratic State vs. Deep State:Approaching the Dual State of the West" contained in "Government of the Shadows: Parapolitics and Criminal Sovereignty", where he links "Le Cercle" with the famous "Aginter Press", a cover base of Gladio.
But this article goes far further:
"[...]There were many overlapping members of Operation Gladio and Le Cercle. One major connection lay in a group known as The 61. Le Cercle director Brian Crozier, with many other Le Cercle members, oversaw the creation of this group. It's goals were, in Crozier's own words:
quote:
Quote:"... a Private Sector Operational Intelligence agency, beholden to no government, but at the disposal of allied or friendly governments... Our main concerns would be:One key member of The 61 was a man by the name of General Vernon Walters. Walters was a CIA agent, working various anti-Communist plots in Central America, Cuba, and Europe, and not surpisingly, a Knight of Malta. He ran Operation Gladio with CIA station chief William Harvey[...]"
To provide reliable intelligence in areas which governments were barred from investigating, either through legislation (as in the US) or because political circumstances made such inquiries difficult or potentially embarrassing.
To conduct secret counter-subversion operations in any country in which such actions were deemed feasible.
It was agreed that no outsiders should be made aware of the existence of this organization, except if, in the judgement of one of us, the person was deemed a suitable candidate for recruitment
Do you know more on Driscoll, his relationships and the relationship between "Le Cercle", Gladio and The 61?
From the previous article:
[...] Another relationship between synarchy and Gladio lies in the Order of the Solar, one of the most notorious suicide cults of all time. A French researcher, Jean-Marie Abgrall,
quote:
Quote:reveals that the Order of the Solar Temple, as Amorc and ORT, were created and controlled by networks of french secret service and foreign," says Mr. Leclerc - information, underlines the lawyer, whose psychiatrist did not receive the instruction.He uncovered that many OST members were involved in the financial aspects of Operation Gladio. Most importantly is the fact that the Order of the Solar Temple describes itself as Synarchist Order, descended from the Knights Templar. Also importantly, the founders of the OST, Luc Jouret and Jean Thiriat, were involved in the Belgian division of Gladio, known as SDRA-8. They were also involved in the creation of the Partie Communtaire European, which was affiliated with the Cercle Des Nations, members of which include SMOMs/Le Cercle members Jean Violet and Otto von Hasburg. [...]
That's one of my obsession: can we say that all this bunch of esoteric initiatic orders and chivalric orders (many of them born like mushrooms after WW2), the Augustan society, the "Ordre Souverain du Temple Solaire", the SMOM, the P2 here in Italy and many others were just not only a complex cover and extensions of political and intelligence influence sphere but even more the meeting rooms of high profile people co-opted in strategies of "destabilizing stabilization" and in the financial aspects of that? (btw if we accept that, herehence the discovers of Abgrall seems to give some kind of proof)
But the proofs are the real problems; its reductive to think that we are gonna discover documents where we can read plain and simple what happened and why, nor we can use pure deductive reasoning, because there are many possible interpretations from the few datas we know.
I can make up in my mind this little simple scheme: the three pillars of power, the political, the financial and the military one are respectively groups like "Le cercle" (and variations), groups like SMOM (and the various esoteric initiatic orders) and groups like Gladio (and variations, like old gehlen group, or "strange" left wing or right wing terrorist groups, organized crime, etc.).It reminds me of the Octopus, described by journalist Danny Casolaro, or the Nebula in the belgian ATLAS Dossier.
But now I need some kind of proof to argument this speculation. One good way could be the "follow the money" method. Quoting the previous article:
"[...]The main fund system of Gladio was the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, a private bank founded in London by Agha Hasan Abedi in 1972. It became known as one of the worst banking scandals of all time, as it was revealed as being controlled by the CIA and other intelligence agencies, as well as organized crime, as means to smuggle drugs, money, and weaponry to terrorism groups and fund black operations. The economic advisor to BCCI at one point was Le Cerlce president Julian Amery.
It was uncovered by CNN that Osama Bin Laden himself a major stockholder in the banking system, (see http://edition.cnn.com/2001/BUSINESS/09/26/binladen/ for more info) as was his brother, Salem bin Laden. Salem bin Laden is interesting to take a look at, because he was close friends with BCCI James R. Bath, who was also co-owner of an oil company known as Arbusto, with George W. Bush, whom he was close friends with. Bath even bought shares of Arbusto for James R. Bath, thus creating a link between the Bush and Bin Laden family via the CIA's black networks. Arbusto has even been indicated as a CIA front. Perhaps it is most important to take note that Halliburton, which profits so much from the War on Terror, was a principle financer of a shadowy European company known as Permindex. Other financers include various Texas based oil companies, many of which were Bush affiliated. The reason that Permindex is worth taking a look at it is because many have presented evidence that it was connected to the JFK assassination, thus bringing it in contact with JM WAVE and then the Gladio Networks. Furthermore, many members of Permindex have been revealed to have ties to Le Cercle members, so we can conclude that they are similar to the function of the BCCI.
The BCCI also reared it's head again the Iran-Contra scandal, in which many other people from the Gladio days make appearances. The most important thing to take note on Iran Contra was the drug smuggling and arms dealings. One source of funding to the Contras went through the Americares, an organization ran by a man named J. Peter Grace, who happens to be both a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and the head of the American division of the Knights of Malta (in fact, many researchers have wondered if the Knights of Malta were essential in the spreading of funds to the Contra rebels). Grace was also affiliated with Radio Liberty and Radio Free Europe (which promoted ideas of a Unified Europe), which was funded by the CIA and created by Reinhard Gehlen (mentioned above). [...]"
Other then BCCI, I remember the Clearstream scandals, or financiers like Genoud, do you know any other group like that? I really would like to know if there is a proof (I can think in some of the files in the archive of ex clearstream Ernest Backes, but I haven't his contact) about funds directed to groups like italian "red brigades" or right wing organizations.
Reading about the "red brigades" most known kidnapping, the Aldo Moro one, there are various hypotheses (seriously investigated even in parliamentary commissions) about two high profile men involved in the kidnapping: here you find two posts talking about that:
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2005/32...rince.html
http://avlesbeluskesexposed.blogspot.com...erion.html
"Shortly after Moro's assassination, LaRouche's associates in Italy published a pamphlet, "Who Killed Aldo Moro?" which drew attention to the oligarchical Caetani family in Rome, near whose palace Moro's body had been found. Later investigations by others charged that the actual head of Gladio was the English aristocrat Hubert Howard, a British intelligence official in World War II and for decades afterwards, who had married Princess Lelia Caetani, daughter of Roffredo Caetani, 17th Duke of Sermoneta. Howard and his wife lived in the Caetani palace, as did one Igor Markevich, a double or triple agent of Western, Israeli, and Soviet intelligence services. He and Howard were leaders of high-level "esoteric" masonry, and, according to some accounts, had led the "negotiations" with the Red Brigades for the freedom of Moroa convenient cover for constant liaison. British intelligence veteran Howard was also named by some as the secret head of Gladio. The account is credible. Howard was a member of one of the most powerful families in Britain, the Dukes of Norfolk, and the Catholic Howards had had intimate connections with the Italian aristocracy, particularly of Venice, since at least the 18th Century. "
Do you know any other informations on Markevich and expecially Howard? I can't find anything about Howard prior he settled down in palazzo Caetani (Moro dead body was found out this palazzo). He was a member of Augustan society or other groups?
Do you know anything about a Vietnam veteran named Peter Jackson Hauser?
On 23 march 1978, on an italian newspaper, there was the sequent notice : on Elba island was arrested an American citizen, Peter Jackson Hauser, decorated Vietnam veteran for false impersonation. He would be in possession of false German identity (Reinald Lahusen) and a brochure of the German terrorist organization RAF. After a quick process is presented as a "deserter" to the leaders of the American base at Pisa and from then will let lose his traces.
From my researches Peter Jackson Hauser is the son of Virginia Hill and Hans Hauser (aka "Norman Johann Hauser"): his mother was a Chicago Outfit courier born in 1916, linked to american mafia, who committed suicide in 1966 (informations on wikipedia and here), his father was a famous Austrian sky instructor born im 1911 and in 1974 he committed suicide too (more informations here and here). He died in a car accident in 1994. Maybe he has nothing to do with Moro kidnapping, maybe not.>>
... one of the chief sources of cultural paranoia is the everwidening rift between the beliefs of a people and their actual behavior, and the tacit assumption among these same people that this practice�this contradiction between idealism and practice�is a normal state of affairs.
LIONEL RUBINOFF, The Pornography of Power
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