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Occupy Everywhere - Sept 17th - Day of Rage Against Wall Street and what it stands for!
Keith Millea Wrote:
Quote: The problem is that their self-appointed leaders are completely in league with the very Wall Street interests the protesters are supposedly there to oppose.Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a regular fill-in host for The Alex Jones Show.

The problem for Mr. Watson is that Occupy Wall Street has no leaders.Him and Alex Jones should quit bitchin',and go do their supposed march on the Fed.You know,like get their fat asses up and DO SOMETHING!



Yes! Thank you Keith! I'm not that clear on Watson's and Jone's politics is. I know they don't support either party which is not a bad thing. But I do have issues with some of the popular anti-government pseudo Libertarian meme going on in the US. It seems to me to play right into the hands of the right wing. While people are rightly disillusioned with the state of governance by abdicating any role in it you leave it to those who are happy to control it. In the main that is the right who is well organised and have moved into position. Over half of the precinct committee positions are vacant just waiting for them to be filled by real progressives. I think the US is unique in this mechanism as I know it does not work that way here. So while it is fine and indeed necessary to be sitting on Brooklyn Bridge don't forget to do other things like take control of the real levers of power. And there is a thousand other things to do in between. Bitching and moaning is not one of them. Every single thing that can be done to make the corporations weaker every cent they have to part with every tiny condition they have to comply with is a small victory. Not enough in themselves but from little things big things grow.
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I think today will be a pivotal day in New York.....several LARGE unions have asked their members to show up and demonstrate with the Occupy Wall Street crowd....how many do eventually show up and how the Police behave will, I think, show the way for the near future of the entire movement. What I fear is the Police have been told to make sure no other unions [or other middle-class folk] would 'want' to do the same some other day[s] - i.e. make it hard on everyone protesting and marching. They will likely have provocateurs start trouble and then just 'have to' make arrests and get some people bloody. But, we will wait and see. There are predictions of many many thousands coming out today...and not just the crowd that has been out so far, which is easy for the MSM to demonize. A lot harder to bash transit workers or other such unions....they look normal and everyone knows they work hard to keep a roof over their heads and feed their families, etc. Today is the day! :mexican: As in Egypt, if people get angry enough, desperate enough, down and out enough, tired of their lost liberties enough - nothing can stop them - and some hard knocks by the Police can even rally more people..... but most Americans are too soft and comfortable to want to muss their hair or change their routine, no matter what the stakes - and the stakes are total! [if they would only realize it!] :gossip: Sadly, all too many Americans still believe in the 'system' and think they can vote in a better government and better life. Little do they know that long ago the entire system was purchased and controlled - and they have no stake in that deal. The only thing left is some kind of demonstrations or strikes, IMHO...they don't all have to be in the street...but that is a good place to be visible to others to kindle the kinds of things one can do off the street too.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
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"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Monday, 03 October 2011

OCCUPY WALL STREET (the theory)

Really simple:
Occupy Wall Street is an open source protest.
This type of protest has been very effective over the last year in toppling regimes in north Africa. It's proving relatively successful in the US too. Open source protest is an organizational technique. Probably the only organizational technique that can assemble a massive crowd in today's multiplexed environment. Essential rules of open source protest include:
  • A promise. A simple goal/idea that nearly everyone can get behind. Adbusters did pretty good with "occupy wall street." Why? Nearly everyone hates the pervasive corruption of banks and Wall Street. It's an easy target.
  • A plausible promise. Prove that the promise can work. They did. They actually occupied Wall Street and set up camp. They then got the message out.
  • A big tent and an open invitation. It doesn't matter what your reason for protesting is as long as you hate/dislike Wall Street. The big tent is already in place (notice the diversity of the signage). Saw something similar from the Tea Party before it was mainstreamed/diminished.
  • Let everyone innovate. Don't create a leadership group. The general assembly approach appears to work.
  • Support anyone in a leadership role that either a) grows the movement or b) advances the movement closer to its goal. Oppose (ignore) anybody that proposes a larger, more complex agenda or those that claim ownership over the movement.
  • If a new technique works, document it, use it again, and share it with everyone else. Copy everything that works.
  • Spread the word of the movement as widely as possible.
That's the gist of it. What's the real goal of this protest? Frankly, it's probably a recognition that the center of power in the US doesn't reside in Washington anymore. It's on Wall Street. This protest dispenses with the middle men (the US government) and goes straight after the real power. My guess is that the Adbuster team that launched this open source protest felt that an October financial meltdown was possible, hence the September start-date. If the meltdown does occur, this movement is going to go global, just at the moment when the banks are going to be at their most vulnerable. Regardless, this effort is going to set the groundwork for a fast launch in the future when the next financial meltdown occurs.What's the big picture? Global guerrillas are getting better at building open source protests. We are going to see more and they are likely to become a prominent feature of the geopolitical landscape. It will also be interesting to see if open source protests could end up taking down a Too Big To Fail bank (i.e. Goldman) or a US President in the next 5 years. That would be very cool to see.

Posted by John Robb on Monday, 03 October 2011 at 01:08 PM | Permalink



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Peter Lemkin Wrote:I think today will be a pivotal day in New York.....several LARGE unions have asked their members to show up and demonstrate with the Occupy Wall Street crowd....how many do eventually show up and how the Police behave will, I think, show the way for the near future of the entire movement....

Do you think "the Marines" will show up, or is that agitprop?
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SOROS IS ATTEMPTING TO TAKE OVER "OCCUPY AMERICA" MOVEMENT

Posted by helen

Editor's Note: Back in 2009, we watched the organic movement of the Tea Party infiltrated and taken over by FreedomWorks, the Koch Brothers and Fox. Today, the public associates the Tea Party efforts to the Republican Party even though the majority of self-identified Tea Partiers consider themselves to be Independents. The take over succeeded in diluting and re channeling these patriots momentum, not b/c they were right or wrong, BUT b/c many of the early supporters no longer wished to give any kind of support to either national party. As an electorate, we've grown beyond tired of having to choose b/w two losers, but that is how the establishment works and is a chief reason why a new movement will be born out of "Occupy America". As we learned from the Republican hijacking of the Tea Party movement, anything that dares to threaten the establishments agenda will be ridiculed, taken over, crushed or simply ignored. Today, it looks like the D's are swooping in to try and hijack "Occupy America's" momentum and to refocus the energy to support Obama's re election campaign agenda. Here's to hoping they fail, and fail miserably! It's past time for the people, only the people, to rise up and say enough to the political and financial establishment who are plunging not only America but the world into ruin! To the people of "Occupy America" don't allow yourselves to be played, because the people of the world have been waiting a long time for American's to take back our country from the greedy hands of the establishment. They, we, need you to succeed.
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October 4, 2010
by Wayne Madsen
Wall Street and London hedge fund tycoon George Soros sent a signal to his minions and infiltrators when he stated that he sympathized with the Occupy Wall Street movement. Soros's statement dovetailed with David Plouffe, President Obama's Senior Adviser, making contact with certain newly-minted "leaders" of the "Occupy" movement across the United States to ensure that they are as politically-manipulated by the White House as a vast majority of "Tea Party" members have been manipulated by senior Republican Party officials and the billionaire Koch Brothers.
Essentially, Soros and the Koch Brothers have ensured that the anti-corporate state movement in the United States, represented by the Democratic and Republican parties, remains split between artificially-created "left" and "right" camps and fractures into even smaller competing blocs within the two major camps.
The "divide and conquer" strategy is frustrating real attempts to mobilize the American people against Wall Street and lobbyist-occupied Washington.
Plouffe and his operatives want to ensure that the "Occupy" street protests generically call for "jobs," "public education," "Social Security," "health care," and the "environment," as long as they do not take on an anti-Obama tone. Essentially, protesters can call for "jobs," and the Soros-funded manipulators will claim on the slight-expanding main stream media coverage of the "Occupy" protests that the protesters want the Congress to approve Obama's jobs bill. When the protesters call for "health care for all," the Soros opinion manipulators will tell the main stream media that the protesters are against any repeal of "Obamacare."
This campaign to infiltrate the "Occupy" movement has all the fingerprints of Cass Sunstein, the head of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs. Sunstein has pioneered in the use of social networking and media technologies to engage in "cognitive infiltration" of anti-government movements. Now that the White House and Soros are engaged in joint damage control, Sunstein's policies are being applied throughout the main stream and social media. One meme that has been spread is that the protesters lack "goals" and a "single voice."
Gawker.com is reporting that now entering the scene is the top-shelf Manhattan public relations firm Workhouse Publicity, whose clients include Saks Fifth Avenue and Mercedes-Benz, hardly firms that would sympathize with unemployed protesters, which has pro bono started to send out press releases to the corporate media on behalf of the "Occupy" movement.
At the progressive Democratic "Take Back the American Dream" conference in Washington, the "Occupy" movement was being hailed by many of the same groups that are funded, some to almost 100 percent, by Soros and his affiliated tax-free contrivances, including the Open Society Institute/Foundation and Tides Foundation. WMR learned that Plouffe was in contact with many of the organizations involved in the progressive conference to ensure that anti-Obama rhetoric was tamped down. The move succeeded with anti-Obama feelings only being discussed by union and other activist rank-and-file attendees and not by any of the speakers who represented such Soros-supported conference sponsors as Center for American Progress, Media Matters, MoveOn.org, and Netroots Nation.
Soros, working with the Obama White House, has called into service veterans of popular movement catalytic and infiltration movements, including "themed revolution" and social media uprisings, in Egypt, Tunisia, Syria, Libya, Iran, Ukraine, Serbia, Kyrgyzstan, Georgia, Lebanon and other countries. The "Arab Spring" backfired on Soros and his allies because the infiltrators could not guarantee the majority of the protesters would be pro-West, pro-capitalist, and ambivalent on Israel.
The major marching orders for these infiltrators is to take over the "leadership vacuum" of the "Occupy" movement and steer it into voicing support for Obama's pro-Wall Street policies without the protesters, themselves, unaware that they are supporting the status quo. The strategy is to ensure that no new and unrecognized leaders appear from within the movement, whether from union or political rank-and-file ranks. Leaders who are not already known quantities and who might resist control by political and financial interests will be eclipsed by those who have been on the Soros payroll for years.
The only way for the Occupy movement to ensure its independence is to begin fashioning protest signs that read: "SOROS IS WALL STREET!" and "OBAMA OWNED AND OPERATED BY WALL STREET!"
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  1. helen
    Posted October 4, 2011 at 9:06 pm | Permalink
    Saw this post and had to bring it over here. h/t WMR
    Soros's economic track record (and "progressive" geeks like Thom Hartmann and Rachel Maddow are in love with this Hungarian shyster):
    Black Wednesday, 1992 Soros's shorting of the British pound cost the UK 3.4 billion pounds. Soros made $1 billion in profit.
    1997: Soros speculation results in Thai baht losing 40% of its value.
    Malaysian ringgit comes under attack by Soros. Loses 39% of value. Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir has some choice words about Soros and [his faith].
    Philippine peso hit by Soros. Loses 42% of value.
    Indonesian rupiah attacked by Soros. Loses 83% of value.
    Singapore dollar devalued.
    Hong Kong dollar comes under attack by Soros.
    South Korean won drops in value. Loses 34% of value.
    Japanese economy suffers with banks collapsing.
    IMF moves in to exact their pound of flesh from Asian economies.
    Currencies of Laos, Vietnam, India, Taiwan, Brunei also fall in value.
    Soros becomes wealthier than ever before.
    1998:
    Indonesian rupiah hits all-time low.
    Russian ruble plummets in value.
    Japan falls into recession.
    Brazil's currency comes under attack.
    Mexican peso falls in value.
    IMF dictates terms to Brazil and Mexico.
    Soros's former portfolio manager becomes president of Brazil's Central Bank.

    We don't need to hear any more progressive tripe from the drooling mouths of Hartmann and Maddow about their hero Soros and his "progressive" pronouncements. They have both been on his payroll and they both should shut the hell up about Occupy Wall Street. They and their ilk have been fattened by Wall Street.
    http://www.t-room.us/2011/10/soros-is-at...#more-6346


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[TD]October 3-4, 2011 -- Bloomberg says "we'll see" if protests are allowed to continue

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has thrown down a gauntlet to growing numbers of protesters in New York who have been using the private Zuccotti Park in downtown Manhattan as their rallying place. Bloomberg, on his weekly radio show, said "we'll see" when asked if protesters woujld be permitted to stay in the park indefinitely. Bloomberg indicated that sanitation laws and other municipal impediments might be used to disperse the protesters from the park.

Several labor unions, including the Steelworkers, Transport Workers, Teamsters, Airline pilots, and others have announced they are joining other protesters in downtown Manhattan this week in the "Occupy Wall Street" movement, which is gaining steam in New York and across the United States and Canada. Over the weekend, New York police officers arrested over 700 protesters after most of them were "kettled" on to the Brooklyn Bridge roadway by police acting as agents provocateurs. The protesters were charged with disrupting traffic.

The "Occupy Wall Street" movement is spreading around the nation, with demonstrations being held in Chicago, Baltimore, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Atlanta, and other cities. On October 6, protesters will take over Freedom Plaza in Washington, DC for an indefinite protest aimed at the federal government. WMR will cover the Washington demonstration.

Bloomberg has always been an enemy of labor. On December 27, 2005, WMR reported: "
New York's GOP mayor Michael Bloomberg, a darling of so-called 'progressive Democrats' who think of him as some sort of 'Republican in name only' (RINO), called striking Transport Worker's Union (TWU) leaders and members 'thugs' after they walked off their jobs to protest reduction of pension and medical benefits. The late TWU President Michael J. Quill, after being ordered by a judge in 1966 to send his striking New York transit workers back to work after imposing an injunction, told the judge to "drop dead" and was declared in contempt of court and jailed. Quill's quote: 'Just as we promised you, the judge can drop dead in his black robes. We will not call off the strike.' Ironically, Quill died in prison just shy of age 60." The Transport Workers Union was the first union to announce they were joining the Occupy Wall Street protesters.

It is also noteworthy that Bloomberg has the same sexual harassment and perversion problem as disgraced former International Monetary Fund director Dominique Strauss-Kahn. On October 24, 2006, WMR reported: "
New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, while heading up his media empire, consistently made rude and sexist comments around female Bloomberg employees . . .Bloomberg certainly was not liberal when it came to his workers' rights. According to former Bloomberg employees, the now Mayor once told a pregnant employee who requested maternity leave that she should have 'killed the fetus.' A male employee who requested time off to be with his hospitalized ill wife was told he would be fired if he took off. He quit right on the spot. It was Bloomberg's sexist comments that were his trademark at his Manhattan Bloomberg News media headquarters. He had a spiral staircase installed, reportedly so he could peer up the dresses of female employees. Bloomberg also was known to make crude sexual-related remarks around his female employees."

There is little wonder why New York's police and legal establishment, many of whom are in the same "club" as Bloomberg, lined up behind Strauss-Kahn after he was charged with rape by a Guinean chambermaid at the Sofitel Hotel in Manhattan. Although DNA evidence clearly pointed to Strauss-Kahn's guilt, the tables were turned against the maid by New York's elite establishment. All charges against Strauss-Kahn were dropped, he was permitted to return to France, and the maid was charged with lying on immigration papers.

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Magda Hassan Wrote:
Keith Millea Wrote:
Quote: The problem is that their self-appointed leaders are completely in league with the very Wall Street interests the protesters are supposedly there to oppose.Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a regular fill-in host for The Alex Jones Show.

The problem for Mr. Watson is that Occupy Wall Street has no leaders.Him and Alex Jones should quit bitchin',and go do their supposed march on the Fed.You know,like get their fat asses up and DO SOMETHING!



Yes! Thank you Keith! I'm not that clear on Watson's and Jone's politics is. I know they don't support either party which is not a bad thing. But I do have issues with some of the popular anti-government pseudo Libertarian meme going on in the US. It seems to me to play right into the hands of the right wing. While people are rightly disillusioned with the state of governance by abdicating any role in it you leave it to those who are happy to control it. In the main that is the right who is well organised and have moved into position. Over half of the precinct committee positions are vacant just waiting for them to be filled by real progressives. I think the US is unique in this mechanism as I know it does not work that way here. So while it is fine and indeed necessary to be sitting on Brooklyn Bridge don't forget to do other things like take control of the real levers of power. And there is a thousand other things to do in between. Bitching and moaning is not one of them. Every single thing that can be done to make the corporations weaker every cent they have to part with every tiny condition they have to comply with is a small victory. Not enough in themselves but from little things big things grow.

Ask Ed Encho about Jones. Consult the archives at WhatReallyHappened.com for Michael Rivero's understanding. Some people love him; he is fiery, has "that voice", and has multiple streams of information and media. He appears to be a classic gatekeeper. But then everyone has an opinion or attitude about those in the media.

Here's my own personal take on the debate about "who is this?": You can no longer make any viable assumptions about politics based on labeling. The "parties" in the US have been mprphed, changed, infiltrated, hijacked and coup d'etat'd five times from Adam since the end of World War II, or about a decade before I had any political perception at all.

Someone needs to construct a valid playbill or cast of characters.
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On October 05, 2011, at 3:00 in the afternoon the residents of Liberty Square will gather to join their union brothers and sisters in solidarity and march. At 4:30 in the afternoon the 99% will march in solidarity with #occupywallstreet from Foley Square to the Financial District, where their pensions have disappeared to, where their health has disappeared to. Together we will protest this great injustice. We stand in solidarity with the honest workers of:

AFL-CIO (AFSCME)
United NY
Strong Economy for All Coalition
Working Families Party
TWU Local 100
SEIU 1199
CWA 1109
RWDSU
Communications Workers of America
CWA Local 1180
United Auto Workers
United Federation of Teachers
Professional Staff Congress - CUNY
National Nurses United
Writers Guild East

And:
VOCAL-NY
Community Voices Heard
Alliance for Quality Education
New York Communities for Change
Coalition for the Homeless
Neighborhood Economic Development Advocacy Project (NEDAP)
The Job Party
NYC Coalition for Educational Justice
The Mirabal Sisters Cultural and Community Center
The New Deal for New York Campaign
National People's Action
ALIGN
Human Services Council
Labor-Religion Coalition of New York State
Citizen Action of NY
MoveOn.org
Common Cause NY
New Bottom Line
350.org
Tenants & Neighbors
Democracy for NYC
Resource Generation
Tenants PAC
Teachers Unite

Together we will voice our belief that the American dream will live again, that the American way is to help one another succeed. Our voice, our values, will be heard.:dancingman:

Please note: The location of the march has been changed from City Hall to Foley Square
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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October 2011 is the 10th anniversary of the invasion of Afghanistan and the beginning of the 2012 federal austerity budget. It is time to light the spark that sets off a true democratic, nonviolent transition to a world in which people are freed to create just and sustainable solutions. Read more.

"We still have a choice today: nonviolent coexistence, or violent co-annihilation. We must move past indecision to action. If we do not act, we shall surely be dragged down the long, dark, and shameful corridors of time reserved for those who possess power without compassion, might without morality, and strength without sight."

Martin Luther King Jr. delivered 4 April 1967, Riverside Church, New York City

October 2011 will mark the start of the 11th year of the invasion of Afghanistan and the onset of the 2012 US federal budget, which provides unlimited funds for war and corporate welfare, yet withholds essential funds for services that meet human needs.

Starting on October 6, 2011, thousands of concerned Americans will assemble in Freedom Plaza, in Washington DC to take control of our country and our lives. We will occupy the plaza and hold a People's Assembly where we come up with just and sustainable solutions to the crises we face and demand that these solutions be presented and that the people's needs be addressed. We will plan and engage in creative acts of civil resistance and demand that our inherent rights and freedoms be protected, and that our children have a chance to live in peace,to breathe clean air, and to grow edible natural food.

Will you stand with us and denounce the systems and institutions that support endless war and unrestrained corporate greed ?

Together we can create the future we envision of peace, justice and equality.

Join us in whatever way you are able - in person or through the online community.

[URL="http://october2011.org/"]It starts here.
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History is knocking. Will you answer the call?
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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