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Princess Diana articles by Seamus
#21
Seamus - I have many things to say, but let's start with the transformation of David Shayler into Dolores Dork, which follows a classic and spookily archetypal pattern.

We could couch it thus:

If the testimony is dangerous, render the testifier ridiculous.

The Metamorphosis of David Shayler is discussed in a DPF thread here.

It is discussed in the context of the attempt to discredit murdered MI6 agent Gareth Williams in the thread dedicated to his sad demise, particularly in posts #111-115 here.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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#22
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Seamus - I have many things to say, but let's start with the transformation of David Shayler into Dolores Dork, which follows a classic and spookily archetypal pattern.

We could couch it thus:

If the testimony is dangerous, render the testifier ridiculous.

The Metamorphosis of David Shayler is discussed in a DPF thread here.

It is discussed in the context of the attempt to discredit murdered MI6 agent Gareth Williams in the thread dedicated to his sad demise, particularly in posts #111-115 here.
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I will have a definite look at all that. I really feel for the Shayler guy by the way. Due to space and time I can't really delve into that aspect of it all. But it's a very interesting angle worth covering by the looks.
"In the Kennedy assassination we must be careful of running off into the ether of our own imaginations." Carl Ogelsby circa 1992
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#23
http://www.topsecretwriters.com/2012/05/...enri-paul/

If you want to prove conspiracy in the Diana case. Then looking at the dodgy toxicology tests is a place to start!!!!
"In the Kennedy assassination we must be careful of running off into the ether of our own imaginations." Carl Ogelsby circa 1992
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#24
Seamus Coogan Wrote:http://www.topsecretwriters.com/2012/05/...enri-paul/

If you want to prove conspiracy in the Diana case. Then looking at the dodgy toxicology tests is a place to start!!!!

Ah, Seamus, now you're getting a little warmer.

Yes, the toxicology tests on Henri Paul are as credible as the official autopsy reports on JFK and his, ahem, missing or doppelgangered brain.

And yes, Henri Paul is not the simple drunk chauffeur of the official version, as we discussed many many moons ago:

Quote:The Paget Report and Martin Gregory have downplayed the point that the movers and shakers of the arms, criminal and intelligence worlds have regularly congregated in the building as a neutral meeting place for many years.

Al Fayed was the proprietor of the joint when the October Surprise' against Jimmy Carter was formulated there by arms dealers and CIA stooges like George Bush (7), and a number of other scandalous deals have gone down there worthy of a novel (8).

By all accounts, Fayed had bugged the Ritz intensively and probably had some knowledge of all of this. Thus, Gregory's and the Paget Report's comments that Paul had never had contact with anyone from MI6 is just as bizarre. Equally strange is the fact that, for all of his security, Al Fayed doesn't seem to have ever captured Paul with any member of MI6. Yet for all this, the chances of Paul hanging out with MI6 agents (wittingly or not) in or near a place as immersed in mystery as the Ritz, is actually very high.


So, let's put our deep political hats on.

Let's speculate a little on the logistics.

Let's assume Diana was to be assassinated but it must look like an accident.

No public execution, as with JFK, but a ritual slaughter nevertheless.

Now, many coalface cops and detectives are honest people. They investigate crime honestly.

How can their investigations be closed down?

The trump card is always National Security. The arrival of the spooks, the imposition of boundaries where information requests by the investigation team are Denied because the details are Classified.

The Finders case, which I - along with others - personally investigated, is one such shining example.

The murder of Gareth Williams is another.

Henri Paul's intelligence background is clear to all who look.

As a Mechanic and Perfect Patsy.

Al Fayed's intelligence background is clear to all who look.

As a Mechanic and Useful Tool.

Trevor Rees-Jones was amnesiac for a decade.

And then there's Oswald Le Winter - see here.

Deep throat for Francovich.

Key source for Gladio and the October Surprize.

Filmed in silhouette against a picture window of dull greyness....

What makes a Perfect Patsy?

Now there's a deep political question.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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#25
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:
Seamus Coogan Wrote:http://www.topsecretwriters.com/2012/05/...enri-paul/

If you want to prove conspiracy in the Diana case. Then looking at the dodgy toxicology tests is a place to start!!!!

Ah, Seamus, now you're getting a little warmer.

Yes, the toxicology tests on Henri Paul are as credible as the official autopsy reports on JFK and his, ahem, missing or doppelgangered brain.

And yes, Henri Paul is not the simple drunk chauffeur of the official version, as we discussed many many moons ago:

Quote:The Paget Report and Martin Gregory have downplayed the point that the movers and shakers of the arms, criminal and intelligence worlds have regularly congregated in the building as a neutral meeting place for many years.

Al Fayed was the proprietor of the joint when the October Surprise' against Jimmy Carter was formulated there by arms dealers and CIA stooges like George Bush (7), and a number of other scandalous deals have gone down there worthy of a novel (8).

By all accounts, Fayed had bugged the Ritz intensively and probably had some knowledge of all of this. Thus, Gregory's and the Paget Report's comments that Paul had never had contact with anyone from MI6 is just as bizarre. Equally strange is the fact that, for all of his security, Al Fayed doesn't seem to have ever captured Paul with any member of MI6. Yet for all this, the chances of Paul hanging out with MI6 agents (wittingly or not) in or near a place as immersed in mystery as the Ritz, is actually very high.


So, let's put our deep political hats on.

Let's speculate a little on the logistics.

Let's assume Diana was to be assassinated but it must look like an accident.

No public execution, as with JFK, but a ritual slaughter nevertheless.

Now, many coalface cops and detectives are honest people. They investigate crime honestly.

How can their investigations be closed down?

The trump card is always National Security. The arrival of the spooks, the imposition of boundaries where information requests by the investigation team are Denied because the details are Classified.

The Finders case, which I - along with others - personally investigated, is one such shining example.

The murder of Gareth Williams is another.

Henri Paul's intelligence background is clear to all who look.

As a Mechanic and Perfect Patsy.

Al Fayed's intelligence background is clear to all who look.

As a Mechanic and Useful Tool.

Trevor Rees-Jones was amnesiac for a decade.

And then there's Oswald Le Winter - see here.

Deep throat for Francovich.

Key source for Gladio and the October Surprize.

Filmed in silhouette against a picture window of dull greyness....

What makes a Perfect Patsy?

Now there's a deep political question.

Cheers mate. I've been meaning to reply to all of this for a very long time. The bitch for me is that so much of my stuff is compressed in the can at the moment. LeWinter, oh yes the man is worthy of an article himself. I said as much in about Part VII I think mate! Once again fascinating dude. I think Rees Jones is a difficult case. I doubt we'll ever get it out of him what happened. There are some reports he's scared of fessing up, but hell he took a hell of a smack! As for your other pointers funnily enough I am looking into the McCann case at the moment (I am learning to always have something cooking). I've been looking into the McCann case since it started. It's something I am far more passionate about than Diana. Anyhow, you can see how honest cops can get their case shut down extremely quickly. That's stuck with me since I started out with the good ole JFK all those years ago! But if you have any direct statements of this happening I'd love to see them. Because they got hold of the case very quickly.

I think I have some four more pieces to go, what I think is important is the Alma Tunnel. The whole purpose of the excercise if a conspiracy was to off her and/or get her in that ambulance. I really think there's potentially a ton of deception and red herrings in the tunnel that night!
"In the Kennedy assassination we must be careful of running off into the ether of our own imaginations." Carl Ogelsby circa 1992
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#26
Milady Clarick de Winter ...

Lee Harvey Oswald ...

Oswald Le Winter ...
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#27
Previously unpublished -- by anyone -- musing:

Look for evidence of the doppelganger gambit at play in Diana's assassination.

Hint: Review eyewitness descriptions of the MB/Fiat/paparazzi motorcade.
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#28
Charles Drago Wrote:Milady Clarick de Winter ...

Lee Harvey Oswald ...

Oswald Le Winter ...
Don't forget the Mexicans and Jimmy Carter (?)
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#29
Charles Drago Wrote:Previously unpublished -- by anyone -- musing:

Look for evidence of the doppelganger gambit at play in Diana's assassination.

Hint: Review eyewitness descriptions of the MB/Fiat/paparazzi motorcade.

Do you have the references to these CD. I'm currently trawling through the Paget Report!
Nothings really sticking out like a pair of dogs balls at the moment.In terms of dopplegangers.
The appearence however of what appears to be rescue services and ambulances really interests myself.
"In the Kennedy assassination we must be careful of running off into the ether of our own imaginations." Carl Ogelsby circa 1992
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#30
Some eyewitnesses describe a black MB and a white FU.

Some eyewitnesses describe a white MB and a black FU.
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