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Just keep up the mantra: 'We are the good guys; we are the good guys...'ad infinitum
#11
Well, I certainly agree with Jan and Lauren that most of the information on this incident is missing - purposefully withheld. That is likely not a very deep political event - just the Military acting as the Military always does to cover its ass and hide embarrassing things - no matter how ugly they were [Tillman, Mai Lai, Feludja..ad nauseum]. But how such incidents get their genesis and timing often ARE deep political events. The number of soldiers [active or former] who suddenly go on a shooting spree in the USA or where they have been sent to 'pacify' the population is alarming and [in my mind] not in proportion to what one would expect from a few deranged or traumatized by warfare. This one seems especially horrible, in that it seem to have involved a lot of travel between villages [time to cool down and stop] and execution-style killings of non-combatants in their homes [so obviously not the 'enemy' unless one see the enemy as all Afghans]. Then the soldier supposedly turns himself in - odd in and of itself. These types are usually followed by a suicide or 'suicide' and there are many indications from all those who witnessed and survived that there were MULTIPLE gunmen. I just fear that it will be months or years before this is cleared up even partially. [We still don't know what happened to the man in the Northface bag, do we!] To force Obama's hand or ruin his chances of winning the election are two possibilities of many more I could think of. While they spy on our 'private' information and communications - their own information - even about what has gone on in the open - is kept secret. Such is the state of the World we now inhabit. They will attempt to tell us what they want us to hear and believe - the truth be damned. I just hope some truth emerges. Whatever the truth, I still think the Afghanis will react with a vengeance sooner than later [i.e. the deaths have just begun on this incident!]
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#12
The alleged lone gunman has been flown out of Afghanistan to Kuwait. Officials are reporting that it may be many months before his name is released or he is even charged. He is soon to undergo 'psychological tests'. Mission accomplished and the agent[s] exfiltrated without identity exposed?
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:The alleged lone gunman has been flown out of Afghanistan to Kuwait. Officials are reporting that it may be many months before his name is released or he is even charged. He is soon to undergo 'psychological tests'. Mission accomplished and the agent[s] exfiltrated without identity exposed?

Peter - I am tempted to suggest removing the question mark at the end of your comment.

It is clear that Those Who Rule Us regard the life of one Yankee murderer as worth far more than the lives of numerous innocent Afghan children.

Sometimes there is no need for due process.

If there were any justice, the murderer would be released in the central market square of Kabul for the people of Afghanistan to deliver an earthly judgement.

Before he rots in Hell.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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Jan Klimkowski Wrote:
Peter Lemkin Wrote:The alleged lone gunman has been flown out of Afghanistan to Kuwait. Officials are reporting that it may be many months before his name is released or he is even charged. He is soon to undergo 'psychological tests'. Mission accomplished and the agent[s] exfiltrated without identity exposed?

Quote:Peter - I am tempted to suggest removing the question mark at the end of your comment.

Feel free~! I won't object.

Quote:It is clear that Those Who Rule Us regard the life of one Yankee murderer as worth far more than the lives of numerous innocent Afghan children.

you mean 'Afghani rag-head useless eaters', don't you. We are the Master Race [now]!

Quote:Sometimes there is no need for due process.

SOMETIMES?! I can hardly remember the last time I saw any!

Quote:If there were any justice, the murderer would be released in the central market square of Kabul for the people of Afghanistan to deliver an earthly justice.

Somalia Redux for sure...he'd survive about 2 minutes...if lucky.

Quote:Before he rots in Hell.

I'm beginning to believe we now are in Dante's lowest level, now.......
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#15
The latest is from the apparent and alleged lone executioner's lawyer - get this: The 'poor dear' is through his lawyer expressing his fears that his life [and that of his family] is not safe should his identity become known! Hint!! Hint! Out of compassion and justice - his name should not be released.......this will play out like a grade Z movie, for sure. No one, but no one in the USA is thinking of the murdered innocents at his hands - or at the hands of the other invaders of Afghanistan who, in my view, have not done any better or differently than the USSR did - and will soon share their fate.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#16
Up to 20 US troops executed Kandahar bloodbath - Afghan probe



Published: 16 March, 2012, 11:33


An Afghan parliamentary investigation team has implicated up to 20 US troops in the massacre of 16 civilians in Kandahar early on Sunday morning. It contradicts NATO's account that insists one rogue soldier was behind the slaughter.


The team of Afghan lawmakers has spent two days collating reports from witnesses, survivors and inhabitants of the villages where the tragedy took place.
"We are convinced that one soldier cannot kill so many people in two villages within one hour at the same time, and the 16 civilians, most of them children and women, have been killed by the two groups," investigator Hamizai Lali told Afghan News.
Lali also said their investigations led to them to believe 15 to 20 US soldiers had been involved in the killings.
Meanwhile the US military has detained one soldier in connection with the massacre and transferred him to Kuwait amid outcry for a public trial in Afghanistan.
US authorities are currently conducting an investigation into the motives behind the attack, but maintain that the soldier's trial must be dealt with by the US legal system.
It is believed that the soldier may have had alcohol problems and been suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder.
http://rt.com/news/massacre-kandahar-sol...rican-705/
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Magda Hassan Wrote:Up to 20 US troops executed Kandahar bloodbath - Afghan probe



Published: 16 March, 2012, 11:33


An Afghan parliamentary investigation team has implicated up to 20 US troops in the massacre of 16 civilians in Kandahar early on Sunday morning. It contradicts NATO's account that insists one rogue soldier was behind the slaughter.


The team of Afghan lawmakers has spent two days collating reports from witnesses, survivors and inhabitants of the villages where the tragedy took place.
"We are convinced that one soldier cannot kill so many people in two villages within one hour at the same time, and the 16 civilians, most of them children and women, have been killed by the two groups," investigator Hamizai Lali told Afghan News.
Lali also said their investigations led to them to believe 15 to 20 US soldiers had been involved in the killings.
Meanwhile the US military has detained one soldier in connection with the massacre and transferred him to Kuwait amid outcry for a public trial in Afghanistan.
US authorities are currently conducting an investigation into the motives behind the attack, but maintain that the soldier's trial must be dealt with by the US legal system.
It is believed that the soldier may have had alcohol problems and been suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder.
http://rt.com/news/massacre-kandahar-sol...rican-705/

If true, and this is the strongest evidence I have yet seen that there were multiple US murderers, then Vietnam's Phoenix Program has risen in Afghanistan.

Assassination squads performing the most brtual of psyops.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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#18
Quote:In response to the massacre Afghan PM Hamid Karzai called for US troops to quit Afghan villages and confine themselves to their military bases across the country. Furthermore, the Taliban announced that talks with US forces would be suspended.

Hmmmm.

Jon Stewart explains why we are the good guys: fast forward to about 7:50
http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episode...h-15-2012-
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Lauren Johnson Wrote:
Quote:In response to the massacre Afghan PM Hamid Karzai called for US troops to quit Afghan villages and confine themselves to their military bases across the country. Furthermore, the Taliban announced that talks with US forces would be suspended.

Hmmmm.

Jon Stewart explains why we are the good guys: fast forward to about 7:50
http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episode...h-15-2012-

Looks to me as Amerika has come to the point the USSR did just before they [USSR] cut and ran like the dickens back home!
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#20
Well, he's been named and his photo is all over the news...as is the tidbit that he suffered some 'brain damage'....which will be used as his defense, say his lawyers. :mexican:
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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