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Haven't a clue what they're doing but they must do it anyway.
Obama Nixed Full Surge After Quizzing Brass

by Gareth Porter / February 21st, 2009
WASHINGTON, Feb 20 (IPS) — President Barack Obama decided to approve only 17,000 of the 30,000 troops requested by Gen. David McKiernan, the top commander of U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan, and Gen. David Petraeus, the CENTCOM commander, after McKiernan was unable to tell him how they would be used, according to White House sources.
But Obama is likely to be pressured by McKiernan and the Joint Chiefs to approve the remaining 13,000 troops requested after the completion of an Afghanistan-Pakistan policy review next month.
Obama’s decision to approve just over half the full troop request for Afghanistan recalls a similar decision by President Lyndon B. Johnson to approve only part of the request for U.S. troop deployments in a parallel situation in the Vietnam War in April 1965 at a comparable stage of that war. Johnson reluctantly went along with the request for additional troops within weeks under pressure from both the field commander and the Joint Chief of Staff.
The request for 30,000 additional troops, which would bring the U.S. troop level in Afghanistan to more than 60,000, had been approved by the Joint Chiefs of Staff as well as by Defence Secretary Robert Gates before Obama’s inauguration. A front-page story in the Washington Post Jan. 13 reported that Obama was ready to “sign off” on the deployment request.
On Jan. 30 Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, said between 20,000 and 30,000 more troops would “probably” be sent to Afghanistan and the figure would “tend toward the higher number of those two.”
But on Feb. 9, Mullen indicated that the Pentagon would soon announce that three brigades, or about 16,000 troops, would be deployed to Afghanistan in the coming months.
What had changed in the nine days between those two statements, according to a White House source, was that Obama had called McKiernan directly and asked how he planned to use the 30,000 troops, but got no coherent answer to the question.
It was after that conversation that Obama withdrew his support for the full request.
The unsatisfactory response from McKiernan had been preceded by another military non-answer to an Obama question. At his meeting with Gates and the Joint Chiefs of Staff at the Pentagon Jan. 28, Obama asked the Joint Chiefs, “What is the end game?” in Afghanistan, and was told, “Frankly, we don’t have one,” according to a Feb. 4 report by NBC News Pentagon correspondent Jim Miklaszewski.
Obama had also learned by early February that earlier assurances from Petraeus of an accord with Kyrygistan on use of the base at Manas had been premature, and that the U.S. ability to supply troops in Afghanistan would be dependent on political accommodations with Russia and Iran.
The rationale from the military leadership for doubling the number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan, even without a strategy or a concept of how the war could end, had been to “buy time” for an effort to build up Afghan security forces, as indicated by Mullen’s Jan. 30 remarks.
The 17,000 troops, on the other hand, presented the upper limit of what Obama had pledged to add in Afghanistan during the campaign, according to Lawrence Korb of the Centre for American Progress, who was an adviser to Obama.
Korb told IPS that Obama’s decision not to wait until the key strategic questions were clarified before sending any more troops was based on the belief that he had to signal both Afghans and Pakistanis that the United States was not getting out of Afghanistan, according to Korb. “There are a lot of people in both countries hedging their bets,” said Korb.
McKiernan reminded reporters Wednesday that the 17,000 troops represent only about two-thirds of the number of troops he has requested. That complaint suggested that he had been given no assurance that the remainder of the troops would be approved after the policy review.
The Wall Street Journal quoted an administration official Wednesday as saying that the troop authorisation addresses the “urgent near-term security needs on the ground,” but “does not prejudge or limit the options of what the [Afghanistan] review may recommend when it’s completed.”
Obama may have become more wary of getting mired down in an unwinnable war in Afghanistan, despite his strong commitment to increasing troops to Afghanistan during the campaign.
Former national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski, on whom Obama has reportedly relied for advice on foreign policy, told Sam Stein of the Huffington Post Wednesday, “We have to decide more precisely what is the objective of our involvement. Because we are increasingly running the risk of getting bogged down both in Afghanistan and in Pakistan in pursuit of objectives which we are lacking the power to reach.”
Brezinzski said the administration needed “very specific, narrow objectives”.
Korb told IPS that the policy review will deal with political-diplomatic as well as military policy issues, including the option of seeking to incorporate at least elements of the insurgents into the government through negotiations. He recalled that Afghan President Hamid Karzai has been advocating negotiations with the Taliban for two years.
Both Obama’s decision to agree to just over half of his field commander’s request for additional troops and the broader strategic situation offer striking parallels with the decision by President Lyndon B. Johnson in April 1965 to approve 36,000 out of a 49,000 troop request for Vietnam.
Johnson’s decision, like Obama’s, was made against a background of rapid deterioration in the security situation, worry that the war would soon be lost if more U.S. troops were not deployed, and an unresolved debate over how the troops would be employed in South Vietnam. Some of Johnson’s advisers still favoured a strategy of protecting the key population centres, whereas the field commander, Gen. William Westmoreland, was calling for a more aggressive strategy of seeking out enemy forces.
Another parallel between the two situations is high-level concern that too many U.S. troops would provoke anti-U.S. sentiment. That was the primary worry of some of Johnson’s advisers about the effect of deploying three divisions in South Vietnam.
Similarly, Gates said Dec. 14 he would be “very concerned” about deploying more than the 30,000 troops requested by McKiernan, because, “At a certain point, we get such a big footprint, we begin to look like an occupier.” Gates repeated that point in Congressional testimony Jan. 27, in which he again stressed the failure of the Soviet Union with 120,000 troops.
McKiernan, on the other hand, said Wednesday, “There’s always an inclination to relate what we’re doing with previous nations,” he said, adding, “I think that’s a very unhealthy comparison.”
Johnson was worried about sliding into an open-ended commitment to a war that could not be won. But two months later he gave in, against his better judgment, to a request from Gen. William Westmoreland, the commander in Vietnam, for “urgent reinforcements”. The escalation of the war continued for another two years.
Obama now faces the prospect that the Joint Chiefs will renew their support for McKiernan’s request for the remaining 13,000 troops next month. And if the full 30,000 troop increase proves to be insufficient, he is likely to face further requests later on for “urgent reinforcements.”
Gareth Porter is an investigative historian and journalist specialising in U.S. national security policy. The paperback edition of his latest book, Perils of Dominance: Imbalance of Power and the Road to War in Vietnam, was published in 2006. Read other articles by Gareth.
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Now there is logic for 'ya. If the Russians couldn't do it with 120,000 we can do it with half that....and the fact the Afghanis think very little better of us then they did of the Russians at this point. Add to that their fighters are better armed and better trained than when fighting the Russians. Add to that the amazingly mountainous terrain they know like the back of their hands and all of our smart weapons and spy satellites can't do much with. Anyway, how the hell did our opium get in their country anyway?.....:girl:
Indeed Peter, how did it get there? The same way their cocaine got into South America I suppose. I imagine there are quite a few farmers in the US who wouldn't mind growing a bit of opium or hemp to see them through the coming rough times.

Now there's a thought! Solve the blow out in the military budget by bringing the troops home since they are no longer needs to guard and transport the opium. By bringing the troops home the US reduces rationale for terrorists to attack the US soldiers and other targets and the world becomes safer also leading to less need for a bloated military and its attendant costs. Growing hemp and opium gives a much needed boost to the US farming industry creating greater prosperity at home especially for farmers. This totally reinvigorates the US textile industry and the paper industry can become green and renewable with out all those nasty chemicals and forest clearing as is used now which can only be good for the planet and good for the people living near and working in paper mills. Other industries are spawned from innovative uses of hemp which is good for the economy. Building materials, medicinesl just for starters. Pesticide use goes down. Butterflies and bees get to live and pollinate more flowers and make more honey. Propagation of opium and its distribution in a medical setting for drug users will result in a pure drug able to be delivered in known quantities resulting in no accidental overdoses. There will be no physical damage to drug users from the toxic additives used to turn one gram into 10 grams of heroin. Drug users will be able to hold down a job and lead a normal life as they will not be spending every waking moment working out how to get the money together to make their next score. Families stay together. Houses do not get broken into so much and people do not get mugged so often and crime in general goes down as people no longer need to commit crimes to get the money. People pay less insurance. People feel safer. There is less crime. More trust more community. We need less police so the community has more money to spend on health and education and infrastructure. Three quarters of the jails become empty as they are no longer needed due to the reduction in criminals. They are turned into community centres, arts centres, youth centres, old age centres, open space and parks, ice skating rinks, sports grounds and museums. Former prison guards, police and military personel get jobs in the new industries. Life is a lot more laid back for everyone.

So far I can't see a down side. Except for the Duponts, Monsantos, Wakenhuts and Halliburtons of the world. But they are only .000001% of the population and I can see that the other 99.999999% of the people will be much better off and we live in a democracy where the majority rules and our government always has our best interests at heart, yes?
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

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“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
Same equation with drugs as with oil, diamonds, gold, timber and other high worth minerals.

Q. how did our valuable assets get to be locked away in other countries?

A. It didn't. It's our world and we'll do with it as we please.

Sovereignty is for pussies.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14

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