David Sanchez Morales and Robert Trumbull Crowley?

[Charles Drago]

David Sanchez Morales is the dark-skinned man depicted in the two photos below, taken in Viet Nam.

Is the very tall man Robert Trumbull Crowley?

What have we here?

El Indio y El Cuervo?

[Zach Robertson]

Hi Charles,

I believe that is Colonel William "Pappy" Grieves. My good friend Steve Rosen pointed this out to me:

http://www.american-buddha.com/phoenixproggallery2.htm

II Corps adviser Paul Ogg is also amongst the photos; he was another friend of Morales.

Zach

[Charles Drago]

Hello Zach,

Always illuminating to hear from you.

How confident are you and Steve Rosen in your Grieves ID? The guy under scrutiny seems older -- but then again, it could be a later photograph. Plus he doesn't seem as tall, but that's purely a subjective judgment.

Do you have a photo of Crowley from that period available for comparison?

Thanks very much,

Charles

[Zach Robertson]

Thank you Charles,

Likewise; it is always great to be here.

Steve and I are pretty confident it is the same man and not just from the picture. However, you know how these things go with photographs. Morales was 5'10" so one can try to base the other's height off that.

I do not have an image of Crowley, although it is not from a lack of looking. I think he wrote some books, and his picture may well be in one of the books - but surely not from the time period we would want. Just a thought.

I'll keep looking.

Zach

[Charles Drago]

I'll remain agnostic as the search continues.

Until then, I'll note what I see -- albeit with an untrained eye -- as height and age differences (heavy jowls on "Grieves" only) between the two images.

And unlike the tall character depicted with Morales, "Grieves" presents not with a totally bald pate, but with male pattern baldness (nothing on top, hair on the sides).

Not that these differences couldn't be explained away, I might add.

Please keep me up to date on anything you may find to clear up this matter.

Best,

Charles