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Another in the endless mass shootings in USA - this time Denver
Scott Creighten: The Jailhouse Snitch is a Corrections Officer in Another County

Quote:It seems like someone involved in this case took a corrections department employee from the neighboring county and booked her on a trumped up charge which would be easily dismissed later and stricken from her record, then put her in protective custody on the same medical ward that James Holmes is on, so that she could falsely claim that he confessed to the killings.


Chillingly, this jailhouse plant, the corrections employee, hinted in an earlier Facebook comment that Holmes may kill himself in jail.


Turns out the "former inmate" who gave an interview to FOX31 Denver's Justin Joseph in which she claims to have heard him admit to committing the July 20th massacre at the Century 16 theater in Aurora, just happens to have posted comments in the past (July 23rd) condemning Holmes and stating that he's "not going to get away with it."


Not only that, but it appears she may even be a correction officer in a nearby county.

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/09/...-employee/
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
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]B]Burnt money, campus ban: Tidbits on Colo. shooter[/B]
By NICHOLAS RICCARDI and P. SOLOMON BANDA | Associated Press

DENVER (AP) The suspect in the Aurora movie shooting case mailed "burnt currency," along with a notebook, to his psychiatrist before the attack. He threatened a professor and was banned from a university campus before withdrawing from its neuroscience graduate program. His defense team has added a psychiatrist.

Those were the few tidbits of information in hundreds of pages of heavily-redacted court documents released Friday, which serve as the best chance the public has to understand what happened before James Holmes allegedly opened fire at a midnight screening of the new Batman movie more than two months ago.

The documents shed little light on Holmes' possible motives or whether the university ignored warning signs about him. That's partly because Arapahoe County District Judge William B. Sylvester continued to keep under seal the key documents in the case the affidavit that lays out prosecutors' case against Holmes, and the search warrants that allowed them to gather evidence against him.

Holmes, 24, faces 152 charges in the July 20 shooting that killed 12 people and injured 58 others.

Some of the documents are entirely blacked out. In others, Sylvester's rulings on legal disputes, references to years-old case law and even copies of newspaper articles are redacted, along with information about the investigation.

The documents do shed a little more light on one of the main disputes in the case Holmes' threats against a professor, possibly the university psychiatrist, Dr. Lynne Fenton, who has testified that she contacted campus police after her last meeting with Holmes June 11. Fenton, who testified Aug. 30, said she went to police to gather more information and communicate her "concern."

She did not refer to her concern as a threat.

Prosecutors contended that Holmes was barred from campus after making the threats. The University of Colorado has said that Holmes was denied access to nonpublic buildings on campus because he withdrew as a neuroscience graduate student, not for safety reasons.

A university spokeswoman did not return a call for comment on Friday. The university has previously refused to comment on how it handled Holmes, citing a gag order that Sylvester imposed. Before the gag order, university officials said their police force had no contact with Holmes and that the chief of the department knew nothing about him.

The defense team sought sanctions against prosecutors for contending Holmes had been barred from campus, arguing that the false statements could contaminate the jury pool. But Sylvester shot that down, ruling the statements were within legal bounds.

Defense attorneys issued a written statement Friday again saying the claim that Holmes was barred from campus was false and misleading.

The most legally significant disclosure Friday was the inclusion of the psychiatrist on Holmes' defense team. Holmes' attorneys have said he is mentally ill.

"This is unusual in a normal case, but not surprising in this case," said criminal trial lawyer Dan Recht, former president of the Colorado Criminal Defense Bar. "Presumably he's (the psychiatrist) the one who is going to opine on whether Holmes is insane or not.

"It's a foregone conclusion that the defense will plead not guilty by reason of insanity."

Other documents likely contain new information, but are blacked out. For example, in one pleading, attorneys describe how law enforcement handled the package that Holmes sent Fenton, which was discovered four days after the attack and also after Holmes allegedly booby-trapped his own apartment.

Authorities were so worried the package was also rigged that they X-rayed it and had a technician in a protective suit open it. What investigators saw when they realized the package was not dangerous, however, is redacted. All that is legible in the documents is a reference to the package containing a notebook with a post-it note and "burnt currency."

The records also show that authorities obtained text messages that Holmes sent a classmate. The documents do not say what those texts discussed.

In court, prosecutors suggested Holmes was angry at the failure of a once promising academic career and stockpiled weapons, ammunition, tear gas grenades, and body armor as his research deteriorated and professors urged him to get into another profession. Chief Deputy District Attorney Karen Pearson said Holmes failed a key oral exam in June, was banned from campus and began to voluntarily withdraw from the school.

Documents filed in the case from now on will be public, unless prosecutors or defense attorneys ask they not be released.

Associated Press writers Steven K. Paulson and Thomas Peipert contributed to this report.

Adele
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[URL="http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/james-holmes-conspiracy/"]http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/james-holmes-conspiracy/
I[/URL] haven't watched it yet and just thought it may be of interest.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:[URL="http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/james-holmes-conspiracy/"]http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/james-holmes-conspiracy/
I[/URL] haven't watched it yet and just thought it may be of interest.

Yes, it is more than - covers all the suspicious things up to point of the film was made.
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Up to 8 people injured in mass shooting near Wisconsin mall

Up to eight people have been injured in a shooting spree near a mall in Brookfield, Wisconsin, a hospital spokeswoman says. Officials said this is a "mass casualty" situation, local WISN 12 News reports.

The shooting occurred at 11:00 am local time on Sunday near the Brookfield Square Mall., Police told Fox6 News.

A spokeswoman at the local Froedtert Hospital says it has received four patients from the shooting, none critical, and expects three more.

Area hospitals have been put on alert as more casualties could be coming, though Froedtert said they were unaware of any other local hospitals taking in patients.

The identities of the shooting victims have not been released.

Authorities are looking for a suspect described as a heavy-set, bald black male in military fatigues who is possibly driving a a 2003 Black Mazda. Other witnesses believe the shooter might still be in the area, possibly in the mall. Several roads in the area have been blocked off and police are holding tactical positions at the scene of the shooting. At least 16 emergency vehicles have been dispatched to the scene.

The Brookfield Square Mall remains on lockdown as witnesses say the shooting took place at the nearby Azana Day Spa.

The FBI is sending hostage negotiations and other agents to help the local police, and ten ATF agents are now at the scene. Ten ATF agents are now at the scene.

A bomb sweep of the building is currently underway.

David Josh, a witness to the incident, said they said a woman run out into a nearby road screaming amidst the traffic.

"She ran right out into the street was pounding on cars," the Journel Sentinel quotes him as saying.

Gosh said a large black man armed with a handgun ran onto the street in pursuit of the woman. Police then showed up, at which point the alleged shooter ran back into the building, or possibly the woods behind the building.

"He was the shooter," Gosh said. "He was looking for an escape route," Gosh continue.

Several other witnesses reported seeing a barefoot woman fleeing the scene

Christopher Pfeiffer, who was parked outside a nearby Barnes & Noble bookstore, said he saw a young woman running between the parked vehicles.

"She was screaming, yelling, crying hysterical. She was pleading for help," said Pfeiffer said. "She kept saying, 'My mother was shot.' And she mentioned that there was a gunman. She ran into the bookstore and I followed her. But I watched her from afar."

Brookfield was the scene of another infamous mass shooting. In 2005, Terry Ratzmann walked into a local Sheraton Hotel and shot dead seven members of the Living Church of God before turning the gun on himself.

Four others were wounded in the shooting, one critically. Ratzmann, who was reportedly about to lose his job, had been sent into a rage by a sermon given at the church two weeks prior.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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James Holmes: Inmate's strange tale of "confession" and suicide efforts


By Alan Prendergast Tue., Nov. 20 2012 at 6:40 AM
Categories: Aurora Theater Shooting, Colorado Crimes, Follow That Story, Prison Life

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Steven Unruh is having a hard time convincing anyone that he spent hours talking to Aurora theater shootings suspect James Holmes shortly after his arrest last July. Jail officials say there's no way that Unruh could have had that kind of access. Yet certain elements of the story -- which includes a description that resembles the headbanging routine that sent Holmes to the hospital last week -- have been attracting attention from law enforcement and even families of the shooting victims."They're going to try to discredit my story," Unruh toldWestword in a recent interview at the jail. "But I was able to have a four-hour talk with him. I talked him out of suicide."
There are plenty of reasons to be skeptical of the tale presented by Unruh, a 38-year-old inmate with a long history of drug and theft charges. To begin with, his account of what Holmes supposedly told him is as bizarre as a William S. Burroughs fever dream. Also, Unruh just got out of prison last January after serving six years for methamphetamine and credit-card fraud convictions, and he says he's been diagnosed as having a bipolar condition.
"It's always been meth with me," he says. "If I drink a beer or something, I've got the voices in my head that drive me to do more drugs. I'm really weak-minded."
He's going public with his account of an encounter with Holmes, he says, only after first trying to interest the Arapahoe County District Attorney's Office in his story. He's currently facing habitual criminal charges and had hoped to deal his way into mental health treatment rather than a twelve-year prison sentence. Although an investigator visited him, "the DA hasn't been working with me," he sighs.
What Unruh can prove is that he was booked into the Arapahoe County Sheriff's Office Detention Facility on drug and theft charges at 6:44 p.m. on July 19 -- just hours before the attack in Aurora at a midnight showing of The Dark Knight Rises that left twelve dead and dozens wounded. Unruh says he was still in the booking area when officers brought in Holmes, whose head was initially covered with a hood. Although Holmes was put into a cell by himself, Unruh says inmates in the area are able to communicate by shouting through a small gap in the cell doors, which move back and forth on rails."I didn't know who he was," Unruh explains. "I could hear some black dudes yelling from the other side, 'You're a piece of shit! Kill yourself!' I had been in prison before, so they said, 'Tell this dude he's not going to be all high and mighty on the prison yard.'"
Unruh says he began talking to Holmes, explaining how poorly child killers are received in prison. Jail staff quickly covered the window in Holmes' cell door with a tarp, but Unruh says he heard him pounding on the wall with his fists -- and then running, slamming his body and his head into the wall. (Unruh described this action in an interview that took place several days before Holmes reportedly engaged in similar headbanging last week.)
"It went on for ten minutes before I couldn't handle it any more," Unruh says. "I told him, 'Don't be doing that. You need to repent to the people for what happened.' He asked me to do an apology letter for the kids."

Captain Vince Sauter of the Arapahoe County Sheriff's Office says that both the physical layout of the booking area and staff's monitoring of the area would have prevented the kind of dialogue Unruh claims. "Even if they were in booking at the same time, they couldn't shout from one cell to another like that," he says. "For someone to say they were communicating with this person -- it can't happen."Lieutenant J.D. Knight, who directly supervises booking operations, agrees. "It would be virtually impossible for Mr. Unruh to have any of the communications he has stated," he says.
But Unruh insists the sporadic conversation continued even after Holmes was moved to another cell in the area. He says that Holmes told him "he felt like he was in a video game" during the shooting, that "he wasn't on his meds" and "nobody would help him." He says Holmes also mentioned NLP -- presumably, neuro-linguistic programming, a much-scorned and outmoded approach to psychotherapy -- and claimed to have been "programmed" to kill by an evil therapist.
"When he got out to his car, he wasn't programmed no more," Unruh says. "It sounded kind of crazy. He was trying to run it by me, basically."
Unruh has a phone number that he says Holmes asked him to call. (The number connects to the cell phone of a bereavement counselor, who says she has no acquaintance with Holmes or Unruh.) He has a form that indicates James Holmes tried to send him a letter, but it was rejected by jail authorities. (Knight says he has no record of any letter sent by Holmes to Unruh, intercepted or otherwise.) He claims to have received messages from Holmes via other inmates since that night, but he admits he doesn't know if the sender was actually Holmes.
Still, Unruh's story seems to have drawn interest in one unlikely quarter. He says Holmes told him he "walked up and down the aisles" of the theater three times before he opened fire, and that detail, if true, might have some bearing on the pending litigation by victims' families against the theater chain. Unruh has paperwork indicating that he's been in communication with at least one family member on that point.
Unruh's story may well prove to be nonsense. Whether it's his nonsense or Holmes's own, the lack of answers in the Aurora tragedy has some people looking for whatever answers can be found.

http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/201...php?page=2
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

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It seems about an hour ago 27 or more teachers and at least 20 CHILDREN at an Elementary School in Newtown, CT were shot to death by a gunman [who is now dead]. This is the 32nd School Shooting SINCE Columbine........only 14 school shootings in the rest of the World combined in the same time-period. The things America is #1 in are simply disgraceful to disgusting....in this case obscene. One entire class of students was killed. Ages not yet known...but the school had children down to 4 years, I believe. Sick. It is thought that the shooter was a father of one of the children at the school. It was a kindergarten class that was decimated and there were TWO shooters! Now they report a dead adult in the home of the shooter. The other person apparently involved is under arrest.

The shooter [the other man was an accomplice, but it seems not a shooter] shot to death the Principal, the School's Psychologist, several teachers [including his OWN MOTHER!] and 20 children aged 4-7. He killed someone before he went on the rampage. He was 24 years old. He is dead, as well.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Adam Lanza, 20, is the alleged shooter instead. And Adam's older brother, Ryan Lanza, 24, of Hoboken, NJ is the man currently being questioned by law enforcement in the school shooting that claimed the lives of 20 children. They drove their mother's car to the school and one of them [Adam], killed her and 26 others, 20 under the age of 9 [or 8, unclear].
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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SC IMO jumps the gun a lot. But an ME has reported a significant discrepancy to the commonly reported story.
Quote: Posted on December 16, 2012 by willyloman
by Scott Creighton
UPDATE: (H/T mkmk) "IF we found a guy in the woods cutting wood"?
QUESTION: The mother of the (INAUDIBLE)[CNN pretends they can't hear the question]
VANCE: You have to understand that after the shooting we did a complete and thorough search of the area, the neighborhood, with our local partners. Everything was examined. If we found anyone that was in the woods cutting wood there would be they would be detained pending the investigation. So there were no other arrest associated with this investigation that occurred. OK?
"If"?

If a cop were to find a guy next to a massive crime scene dressed like that, carrying an AX, don't ya think the cop would have, oh I don't know, brought the AX back with them? What was he "cutting wood" with anyway? A pocket knife?
And since when do people run around on school property "cutting wood"?

What does "IF" mean? "If" they found a guy cutting wood? Isn't that a little specific?
The spokesman also seems to claim now that the rifle was found in the building somewhere but fails to explain where.
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While a lot of people are wondering how someone with a condition like autism could possibly have held it together enough to carry out such a monstrous attack so calmly and professionally, I have to say, judging from the evidence, he didn't.

It appears the only homicide carried out with the handguns found on Adam Lanza was that of Adam Lanza himself. Sorry, but that is what the reports seem to suggest.

From the very beginning of this story the statements from the police were clear, the rifle found on the scene was found in the back of the car out in the parking lot not on Adam's person.
"Lanza shot his mother, Nancy Lanza, drove to the school in her car with at least three guns, including a high-powered rifle that he apparently left in the back of the vehicle, and shot up two classrooms around 9:30 a.m. Friday, law enforcement officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity"
.. "The vehicle the suspect drove to the school was registered to his mother. At least three guns were found a Glock and a Sig Sauer, both pistols, inside the school, and a .223-caliber rifle in the back of a car, authorities said." Fox News

This story was so prevalent, that most gun-control advocates were using it as proof that even handguns needed to be banned completely and this narrative continued to be the dominant one until just recently.

And then a funny thing happened at the Chief Medical Examiner's office: he told the truth.
"It is unclear whether all the guns were used in the attack. At a news briefing on Saturday, Chief Medical Examiner Dr. H. Wayne Carver II, who led the team that autopsied the victims, said, "All the (injuries) … I know of were caused by the rifle."" NBC News

Suddenly the narrative has completely changed. All of the victims were shot with the rifle that was found in the trunk of the car outside in the parking lot and the handguns apparently weren't used unless it was a handgun that took the life of Adam Lanza. And it was the handguns that were found on Adam.

That's a big difference folks. As I have written before, Lanza didn't have time to commit these horrific crimes and get back out to the parking lot to stash the rifle only to run back into the school and take his own life. Even if there was some kind of twisted logic to explain an act as silly as that, he simply didn't have time.

But one guy did; the guy they found and arrested out in the woods right outside the school and the parking lot who was dressed like what the witnesses described as the shooter.

If that rifle was indeed found in the car as the first reports claimed (and I don't know how or why the police department spokesman could get that part of the story wrong) then it is my conclusion that Adam Lanza could not have committed this crime.

Remember, the shooter hid his identity by wearing a mask and tried to protect himself by wearing body armor. Neither of those facets of the story lend themselves to an autistic guy who planned to kill himself in the end.

But BOTH of those aspects of the story lean toward the guilt of an accomplice or the actual shooter who planned to live through the event and keep himself from being identified later.

Tack onto that the fact that someone was caught outside dressed like the shooter and the rifle which killed all of those people was in the parking lot as well, and you have a cut and dry case.
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/12/...the-patsy/
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

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Just what the hell is really going on here?

Co-incidence? I doubt it. Maybe this new wrinkle needs its own thread.
We all heard the story of the assault rifle found in the car then the switch by the Medical examiner...that this was the kill weapon.

Now the two fathers??? Highly suspicous.

Dawn

So, the "Sandy Hook" & "Aurora" Theater Shootings & the LIBOR Scandal are all connected?
Well they are.

The father of Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza, "Peter Lanza", was the tax director for General Electric, a corporation that paid -0- taxes on 14.2 billion dollars in profits last year, and He was scheduled to testify in the ongoing global LIBOR scandal.

The father of Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes is Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO, and He too was to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal.

That's right, BOTH men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal.

Coincidence?

Really?

This coincidence is impossible to overlook.
Two mass shootings connected to LIBOR!

Will the link be investigated,...will it even get a mention?

http://beforeitsnews.com/economics-and-p...47738.html
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