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David
I do not know if the Z film was altered or not and remain agnostic. What i know though, is that the Z film was used for propaganda purposes
after the fact to create cognitive dissonance and fighting among the researchers. Knowing that the fim was in the possession of Life/Time and Henry Luce
for many years i can deduce that C.D. Jackson a PsyOps expert and Luce's personally emissary to the CIA would be the likely candidate to
have use it in a PsyOps operation to confuse researchers and promote division among them.
In the final analysis arguing about its authenticity who fell victims of this PsyOp operation.
I am not interested much in the micro-analysis of the case, although i would love to know one day the number of shooters, their location, number of shots etc.
I prefer to study the macro-analysis of the case and i specially liked your reply below
https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/sho...vsq-T1_uSo
I lack the expertise and knowledge to study the film and leave this task to those who can.
I follow Salandria's advice to Fonzi...about stop micro-analyzing the evidence because they'll keep us busy until they were us down.
My humble opinion.
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Vasilios Vazakas Wrote:David
I do not know if the Z film was altered or not and remain agnostic. What i know though, is that the Z film was used for propaganda purposes
after the fact to create cognitive dissonance and fighting among the researchers. Knowing that the fim was in the possession of Life/Time and Henry Luce
for many years i can deduce that C.D. Jackson a PsyOps expert and Luce's personally emissary to the CIA would be the likely candidate to
have use it in a PsyOps operation to confuse researchers and promote division among them.
In the final analysis arguing about its authenticity who fell victims of this PsyOp operation.
I am not interested much in the micro-analysis of the case, although i would love to know one day the number of shooters, their location, number of shots etc.
I prefer to study the macro-analysis of the case and i specially liked your reply below
https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/sho...vsq-T1_uSo
I lack the expertise and knowledge to study the film and leave this task to those who can.
I follow Salandria's advice to Fonzi...about stop micro-analyzing the evidence because they'll keep us busy until they were us down.
My humble opinion.
More than fair enough... I simply see the film and other evidence as the breadcrumbs left by the conspiracy... follow them and maybe we find a player or two...
I also try to remember the prophetic words of Salandria... something about solving a puzzle by first finding the pieces that GO to the puzzle intrigues me and keeps pulling me back.
With regards to the linked post... you remain one of the few who show interest in the Textron/Bell /Montreal/London connections and how they illuminate the SPONSORS...
leading IMO to placement of key assets in very influential positions.... the connections SCREAM control...
What the Testron situation also shows is the complete disregard for nations and alliances... That LONDON/Montreal/Boston would be so instrumental and so calculated in ruining the NE Textile manufacturing capabilites
and at the hands of the British is very telling of the attitidue of nations versus those of SPONSORS.
Yet we must not forget the willingness the top most brass of the Navy, Air Force and Army showed in assisting the cover-up...
Without LeMay but mostly Galloway and Burkley..... if they did not believe the removal of JFK was in the best interest of THIER country.......
But the notion of Treason, which is what their actions amount to, is a matter of perspective I guess...
Thanks for your comments Vasi...
DJ
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Vasilios Vazakas Wrote:David
I do not know if the Z film was altered or not and remain agnostic. What i know though, is that the Z film was used for propaganda purposes
after the fact to create cognitive dissonance and fighting among the researchers. Knowing that the fim was in the possession of Life/Time and Henry Luce
for many years i can deduce that C.D. Jackson a PsyOps expert and Luce's personally emissary to the CIA would be the likely candidate to
have use it in a PsyOps operation to confuse researchers and promote division among them.
In the final analysis arguing about its authenticity who fell victims of this PsyOp operation.
I am not interested much in the micro-analysis of the case, although i would love to know one day the number of shooters, their location, number of shots etc.
I prefer to study the macro-analysis of the case and i specially liked your reply below
https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/sho...vsq-T1_uSo
I lack the expertise and knowledge to study the film and leave this task to those who can.
I follow Salandria's advice to Fonzi...about stop micro-analyzing the evidence because they'll keep us busy until they were us down.
My humble opinion.
IMHO, you haven't followed the total destruction of the Zapruder film as intact evidence [as presented to us by the powers that be]; sequestered after alteration, and only stills shown until subpoenaed by Garrison; and part of multiple psyops.
May I suggest you start with 1] Horne's work on the subject, and 2] the new film interviewing the man who did the secret development and copies of the Z-film for the CIA and USSS available on vimeo. He was followed [without his knowledge] by another group working for the CIA and USSS in altering the film. Together, it paints a totally clear picture of the how and WHY of the alteration (to hide the truth of the assassination) - being altered to, as much as they could, match the altered body and autopsy [which were ALSO for the purpose of hiding the truth of the assassination]. No special expertise is needed to evaluate Horne's work nor the video above...only common sense and an open mind to the Truth.
Yes, there is some 'over-analysis' of things like guns, bullets, number of shots, where from, shooters, etc. [IMHO]....but the Zapruder film and the fact it was altered [secretly] - and that Mr. Z was one of the few filmmakers in the Plaza who didn't have his film seized and wasn't threatened - but instead made literally millions for keeping his mouth shut on this fraud [of which he must have had knowledge]. Sometime, explore who Zapruder was friends with and knew...they include some VERY INTERESTING persons, including the owner of the TSBD - Byrd....but others who I believe were very much a part of, and had foreknowledge of the plot....and were accessories after the fact, as well.
It is not trivial......and not micro-analysis... it is the BIG picture!
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Once it went to CIA, a major participant in the assassination, you can assume it was tinkered with - as is proven in the evidence for its alteration.
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Peter
I respect your opinion and you have obviously studied the subject more than i have. Don't get me wrong i can understand where you are
coming from. It is just not on my immediate interest to study the Zfilm alteration. I am openminded, and i reserve judgment. I have learned
that in a complex case like this, anything is possible, and i dont't want to be absolute, because if something i support or believe proves to be wrong later, then i will look like a fool. So i am an agnostic.
I will suggest to all people who study the film alteration try to arrange an indepedent study from experts all around the world the very best from Germany, UK, France, Russia, Japan etc. to see what the majority of them will come up with.
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I get it. The dog didn't bark!
Quote:Yes, there is some 'over-analysis' of things like guns, bullets, number of shots, where from, shooters, etc. [IMHO]....but the Zapruder film and the fact it was altered [secretly] - and that Mr. Z was one of the few filmmakers in the Plaza who didn't have his film seized and wasn't threatened - but instead made literally millions for keeping his mouth shut on this fraud [of which he must have had knowledge]. Sometime, explore who Zapruder was friends with and knew...they include some VERY INTERESTING persons, including the owner of the TSBD - Byrd....but others who I believe were very much a part of, and had foreknowledge of the plot....and were accessories after the fact, as well.
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I
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