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  A CLEVER SOPHIST LIE
Posted by: Richard Gilbride - 27-09-2023, 09:49 PM - Forum: JFK Assassination - Replies (3)

The PrayerMan figure unequivocably is situated at the front of the Depository landing, and thereby measures a full head shorter than the 6-foot one-quarter inch Wesley Frazier, who is standing at the center of the Darnell frame. No legitimate height determination has ever matched up the 5-foot 9 Lee Harvey Oswald. And the cultlike advocates offer no legitimate reason as to why no one ever mentioned seeing Oswald out there during the motorcade. Frazier, in fact, denied seeing him, and said he spoke to secretary Sarah Stanton moments after this footage was taken.

Having failed, by film forensics, to certify this blurry figure was Oswald, the cult has resorted to insinuating that James Hosty's belatedly-discovered notes are proof that Oswald "went outside to watch P. Parade." Cherry-picking a piece of evidence, out of context, imbuing it with a meaning it does not ordinarily have-  which is their customary method of deception.

Secret Service Inspector Thomas Kelley explicitly asked him the next morning, in the presence of 7 other law enforcement officers, whether he had watched the parade and he said he had not (Warren Report, p. 627). Had Oswald actually been on the landing, during the presidential parade, why on earth didn't he declare that to the press in the hallway when they asked him if he shot the President?

Hosty's extraneous notes actually refer to Oswald being on the landing 3 or 4 minutes after the assassination. This correlates with the notes of Captain Fritz and the solo report of James Bookhout, who each state that Oswald was out on the landing with Bill Shelley. The Fritz notes, Bookhout report, and the Hosty notes are in fact each structured as the same specific 3-part drama.

In Act 1 Oswald is on the 2nd floor getting a Coke; Act 2 he goes to the 1st floor; in Act 3 he goes out to the landing. In Act 1 Fritz and Bookhout mentioned the encounter with the police officer, which Hosty omitted. In Act 3 they mentioned the encounter with Shelley, which Hosty again omitted.

Oswald, alone with these men at his first interrogation, had actually told them that during the shooting he was on the 2nd floor!! This is what Fritz initially stated in his testimony (IV p. 231), until he was directed by attorney Ball to return to the narrative that had been scripted into his police report (Warren Report, p. 600). Oswald was asked the most obvious of questions-  his whereabouts during the assassination-  yet his interrogators did not relinquish their notes about this to the Warren Commission. The remnants that turned up years later all sync up again with the purchase of a Coca-Cola, and proceed with their 3-part drama.

That drama was initiated-  again, according to Fritz's testimony-  by the encounter with Officer Baker in the 2nd-floor lunchroom, where Oswald said "he was eating his lunch" (IV p. 213). Which correlates with what Jack Dougherty, Carolyn Arnold, James Hosty, Sarah Stanton and Wesley Frazier all told their respective latter-day interviewers. 

We have, all told, no epistemological justification for extracting Hosty's belated notes from the context of the threefold interrogator data set, and fantasizing that those notes alone provide information about Oswald's whereabouts. Not when Fritz's testimony is telling us Oswald was on the 2nd floor at the time of the shooting. Not when Kelley's Secret Service report says he denied watching the parade. To offer these notes as evidence he was on the landing, at the time in question, is first-order mullarkey. Just a clever Sophist lie.

These hypotheses will be ridiculed as mentally defective in another 20 years. Max Planck, the discoverer of the quantum, remarked that progress in physics is often not possible until the previous generation dies off. And it will be the same for future JFK scholars, who will abandon the wishful thinking of the present age. The proponents of PrayerMan and the lunchroom hoax-  along with their reputable enablers-  will be rightly regarded as sophomoric oafs, inherently incapable of discerning fact from fiction. Progress will eventually prevail, when all these Sophists die their physical deaths. Truth is always invincible, since it rests upon a foundation of God-given reason and Sober Judgment.

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  Bart Kamp's 'Prayer Man More Than A Fuzzy Picture' Book
Posted by: Brian Doyle - 26-09-2023, 04:00 PM - Forum: JFK Assassination - Replies (1)

A decade ago this forum was openly declared to be a forum created in opposition to the Education Forum and its uncredible moderation...Unfortunately, since Magda appointed a certain moderator that has changed and not changed for the better...

Bart Kamp has recently come out with a new book on Prayer Man and he is taking full advantage of the bias towards his Prayer Man claim that exists on the JFK internet...That bias has received strong support from this website, not from direct endorsement, but from a lack of opposition to what is obviously bogus research...Predictably, the Education Forum has allowed itself to be taken over by Kamp's proxies and the book is now receiving strong adulation and positive reviews...Kamp has two moderators in his corner in the form of Sandy Larsen and James Gordon...There is no meaningful opposition or effective critique of Kamp's disinformation work...

The lack of this website to do what it was formed for is directly resulting in Kamp's false work gaining undue credit and being taken seriously...Let's not be dishonest about the real cause for this...The moderators of this website want to remain in favor with people like Jim DiEugenio and David Josephs, who have directly violated the previous rules of this forum as they were posted a decade ago...Jim and David are taking advantage of what this site clearly formed in opposition to and are exploiting and supporting the Education Forum's corrupted moderation in order to support the Prayer Man people...Jim and David are in full support of the Education Forum violations this website was formed in opposition to and are being allowed to waltz over here with full acceptance and not be held accountable...The truth is Greg Parker and Bart Kamp have made serious progress lately for their bogus claims and position in the research community at least partly because of a lack of resistance from this website, and done so because those in authority are preferring their personal relationships to certain researchers over good research...

My research has proven beyond any doubt that Prayer Man is Sarah Stanton...It is being ignored on the Education Forum by that which this website was formed in opposition to...Instead of being seen as a hero that this website was designed to produce, and supported as an example of this website's purpose, I am being given 1 star ratings on all my posts in violation of the previous DPF rule that no member would suffer any abuse from any moderator...That rule was removed from the DPF rules where member's rights were greatly reduced by that anonymous deletion of the previous rules...There has been no site recognition of my highly important evidence discoveries, which is in direct violation of this site's previous rules and publicly-stated purpose...The credibility and integrity of JFK Assassination Conspiracy research is being threatened with the silent assistance of this forum...The current resurgance and gains of the Prayer Man group via the Education Forum is directly due to this website failing to act upon its previous publicly-stated purpose... 

We live in an age where Davidson can show Sarah Stanton's clearly-seen face on Prayer Man yet that is somehow not good enough for people who call themselves serious researchers and moderators...

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  Thomas Kelley reports Oswald said he did not view parade
Posted by: Richard Gilbride - 25-09-2023, 04:54 PM - Forum: JFK Assassination - Replies (1)

Secret Service Inspector Thomas J. Kelley, in his synopsis of the Saturday morning interrogation of Oswald (attended by 7 other law enforcement personnel), reported that "I asked him if he viewed the parade and he said he had not." (Warren Report, p. 627)

Had Oswald actually been out on the TSBD landing, during the presidential parade, why on earth wouldn't he have declared that to the press in the hallway when they asked him if he shot the President?

Wesley Frazier, who was out on the landing during the presidential parade, firmly denied in recent years that Oswald was ever out there then.

James Hosty's extraneous notes, claiming that Oswald "went outside to watch P. Parade", are being taken out of context by the PrayerMan cult. What Hosty quite apparently was referring to was what Captain Fritz had written down-  "out with Bill Shelley in front"-  and James Bookhout had reported- "He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman Bill SHELLEY".

Oswald had told his interrogators he had gone to the 2nd floor to get a Coke, an officer came in, he went to the 1st floor to have lunch, then went outside and stood around with Bill Shelley.

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  Another Look at the "Backyard Photographs" --- Part IV
Posted by: Gil Jesus - 22-09-2023, 12:38 PM - Forum: JFK Assassination - No Replies

https://jfkconspiracyforum.freeforums.ne...ographs-iv

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  Paul Landis Says He Found Magic Bullet In Back Seat
Posted by: Brian Doyle - 18-09-2023, 04:52 PM - Forum: JFK Assassination - No Replies

Secret Service agent Paul Landis has come out with a startling revelation that he found the Magic Bullet on the top of the leather seat in the limousine:


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/09/...m_brand=vf

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  Another Look at the "Backyard Photographs" --- Part III
Posted by: Gil Jesus - 15-09-2023, 10:11 AM - Forum: JFK Assassination - No Replies

https://jfkconspiracyforum.freeforums.ne...graphs-iii

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  Another look at the "Backyard Photographs" --- Part II
Posted by: Gil Jesus - 09-09-2023, 11:56 AM - Forum: JFK Assassination - No Replies

https://jfkconspiracyforum.freeforums.ne...ographs-ii

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  Morley Praises Kamp But Avoids Mentioning Prayer Man
Posted by: Brian Doyle - 08-09-2023, 02:51 PM - Forum: JFK Assassination - Replies (1)

Just to show what an embarrassing incestuous schmoozefest of favoritism and cronyism the JFK research world is, like Alan Dale, Morley totally avoided the main subject of Kamp's book as seen in the title "Prayer Man"...This is how stupid and dishonest the clique is and how low it tries to force the research world where we would accept a research community all marching totally naked in their own research parade by not mentioning the main focus of the book in their reviews...I mean how intellectually dishonest is it to have Kamp's main claim to fame, and focus of the book as represented in the title "Prayer Man", not mentioned in both main reviews?...Clearly both Morley and Dale are telling the public they don't believe in the bogus Prayer Man claim and have been convinced of such by a certain researcher that they are not honest enough to name...However that doesn't keep them from reinforcing their main research concern, in the form of the clique, by doing sweetheart gushing reviews of one of the biggest creeps and bogus evidence promoters in the research community while dishonestly ignoring the main point...

This is a research community that is corrupt and dishonest enough to skip the issue that is the main title of the book and main focus of the author, dishonestly avoid mentioning it, and still come up all gushing roses and praise for what is basically one of the biggest fools in research history who led the research world down a time-wasting false path for over a decade...Look at both those hustlers Morley and Dale tip toe around this glaring issue while pretending they could still get away with a positive review despite that giant glaring hole...You know - the clique and its corruption say it is OK to ignore the ALL CAPS "Prayer Man" title of the book, and Kamp's notorious history involving it, and still consider yourself as offering a sincere review...Not a single f*cking word about Prayer Man in either review while these scoundrels insist on enforcing your banning while standing there embarrassingly and stupidly stark f*cking naked...That's how dishonest the JFK research community is...Your expensive dinner jacket is never good enough while these naked clowns are ushered right in by the bouncers at the door...

Both Dale and Morley both failed to credit Kamp with proving Prayer Man was Oswald...In fact, even though it is the title of the god-damned book, both Dale and Morley failed to even mention it at all - which has to be one of the most epic cases of intellectual dishonesty ever committed in academic history...This present JFK research community is not about good evidence or argument...It's about a gang of insiders who have hijacked the JFK internet for whom epic acts of dishonestly like this have no limit or sense of shame...

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  Another look at the "Backyard Photographs" --- Part I
Posted by: Gil Jesus - 04-09-2023, 02:03 PM - Forum: JFK Assassination - No Replies

https://jfkconspiracyforum.freeforums.ne...hotographs

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Video **CONFIRMED: Human Trafficking Researcher Monica Petersen "MURDERED" in Haiti
Posted by: George Williams - 02-09-2023, 08:54 PM - Forum: Human Trafficking - No Replies

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Was waiting for a bit to post this, to see if some new information was forthcoming, but I definitely should write about this now. There has been a major update in the investigation into the highly suspicious death of Monica Petersen, who worked as a Researcher for the Human Trafficking Center Graduate Program at the University of Denver, very shortly before her death in Port-au-Prince, Haiti in November 2016. Just a month later in December 2016, a single article appeared in the Washington Post about Petersen’s death, by reporter Glenn Kessler. The only information in the Washington Post article about the actual cause of Petersen’s death, was a single quote from Petersen’s employer shortly before her death in Haiti, University of Denver Professor Claude d’Estree. Professor d’Estree was quoted in Glenn Kessler’s article printed right after Petersen’s death, as saying that Petersen “committed suicide but the circumstances are not clear.”

It is *very* important to point out, that up until very recently, this extremely vague statement from the Washington Post about the cause of Petersen’s death in Haiti (“suicide but the circumstances are not clear") is literally the only statement I have seen anywhere in the mainstream press about how Monica Petersen passed away. It is therefore all the more significant, that we now have completely new information from mainstream sources, that directly contradicts what the Washington Post reported back in 2016. According to new reports, Monica Petersen did not in fact “commit suicide” in Haiti. She was murdered.

On 1/14/2025, the Ames Tribune, a Gannet-owned newspaper, reported about an upcoming anti-human trafficking event in Des Moines, Iowa hosted by the anti-trafficking group Iowa Network Against Human Trafficking. The event was headlined by Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds. At the event, Governor Reynolds signed a statewide proclamation stating January is “Slavery and Human Trafficking Awareness" Month for the State of Iowa. Very very significantly, as the Ames Tribune reported, at this event Governor Reynolds also awarded “anti-trafficking service awards” to several anti-human trafficking activists, including “Ames resident, Monica Petersen, who is being awarded posthumously.” As the Tribune then states, “Peterson [sic] was a research fellow at the Human Trafficking Center and a member of the Colorado Governor’s Human Trafficking Council. She was murdered by traffickers in Haiti.”

I was also able to speak to a close member of Monica Petersen’s family (name not disclosed for privacy), who confirmed to me that members of Petersen’s family did in fact attend this anti-trafficking event in Des Moines, where Petersen received the posthumous award. The family member also confirmed to me that they had also learned that Petersen was “murdered by traffickers in Haiti.” However, the family member did not know any more information other than that, like if the “traffickers” actually meant “human traffickers” specifically, or possibly other criminal groups.

It is extremely important to focus on the fact here that this new information about Monica Petersen’s death, 100% contradicts what the Washington Post (quite obviously a major Newspaper of Record), reported was the cause of Petersen’s death back in 2016. A murder is quite obviously not the same as a suicide. Looking at the basic facts here, Petersen’s death in Haiti was clearly a very high-profile death. The graduate program that Petersen worked for shortly before her death, the Human Trafficking Center, was part of a very prestigious International Studies School at the University of Denver, the Korbel School, with many notable alumni. When you have such a high-profile death, especially in such a politically-volatile place as Haiti, it is all the more suspicious that such a massive contradiction emerges about something so central to the true story of Petersen’s death in Haiti: the actual cause of her death there.

Very significantly, as of this writing I have seen no statement or response from either the Washington Post or Post reporter Glenn Kessler, addressing this new information from the Ames Tribune that Monica Petersen was “murdered by traffickers” in Haiti. Consider again that it was the Washington Post, and only the Post amongst all the major newspapers within the mainstream media, that reported that Petersen “committed suicide but the circumstances are not clear” right after her death in 2016. This complete silence from the Post regarding its own massive contradiction in its own reporting, in my opinion only greatly deepens the suspiciousness about what the full, true story really is regarding Petersen’s death.

It is important to point out here, that in my previous three-part investigative article into the circumstances of Petersen’s death in Haiti, I talk in extensive detail about Facebook posts that emerged publicly after Petersen’s death. These social media posts by and about Monica Petersen, show clear evidence about the actual details of Petersen’s investigation into human trafficking allegations in Haiti, in roughly the 2015-16 time period. Most significantly, in a Facebook post from January 2016, in a Facebook post purportedly by Petersen, Petersen made two very, very significant claims.

First, Petersen claims that in August 2015 the previous summer, she personally visited a small town in northern Haiti called Caracol, for the purposes of talking to and interviewing workers in Caracol who worked for a very large textile plant in the town, called the Caracol Industrial Complex. Direct quote from Petersen: “Caracol is a garment exporting zone, a field site I visited in August to check out the conditions of the workers (conclusion: working conditions okay, working wages too low & below contracts & legal minimum wage in Haiti.”

Second, in the same Facebook post, Petersen also says the following: “I can’t say to what extent, but there is human trafficking happening through the Clinton’s [Caracol] Complex.”
As I point out in detail in my investigative article about Petersen’s death, there is evidence that the Clintons do indeed have extensive personal ties to this textile manufacturing complex in Caracol, Haiti. An article in Politico by reporter Jonathan Katz about the creation of the Caracol Industrial Complex, literally stated that Bill and Hillary Clinton “were instrumental at nearly every step” in the creation of the Caracol Industrial Complex. When the Caracol plant opened in Haiti in 2012, the Clinton’s personally attended the plant’s opening ceremony, where they were pictured in a group photo with a large number of Haitian factory workers employed at the plant:

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Putting the pieces together a bit more here: we know that Petersen made this very specific claim about human trafficking allegedly happening at the “Clinton’s [Caracol] Complex” in January 2016. Less than a year later, in November of that very same year, Monica Petersen was found dead in Port-au-Prince, Haiti. And now, thanks to the information supplied to us by the Ames Tribune, as well as the anti-trafficking event held in Des Moines in January this year that honored Petersen, we also now know that Monica Petersen was in fact “murdered by traffickers” in Haiti.

Supplied with all this information, I think we very much have a legitimate basis to ask some highly, highly significant questions about what really happened to Monica Petersen in Haiti. Since we know that Petersen was “murdered by traffickers,” does this mean human traffickers specifically? Or does it possible include drug traffickers, or other criminal groups, who were involved in the murder of Petersen? As stated above, Petersen was murdered in Haiti less than a year after specifically claiming that human trafficking was happening at the Caracol Industrial Complex. This leads to an obvious question: if the human trafficking ring that Petersen was allegedly investigating in Caracol, was indeed real, were the human traffickers allegedly operating in Caracol, Haiti also behind Petersen’s murder?
If Monica Petersen’s human trafficking investigation in Haiti really did threaten to expose the criminal activities of actual human traffickers operating in Haiti, clearly these traffickers would have all the motive in the world to want to murder Petersen, in order to keep their crimes hidden. Considering what we know now, I think that to truly investigate Petersen’s murder at this point, it is essential to follow up on Petersen’s own lead and try to figure out if a human trafficking ring really was operating in Caracol, Haiti, as she herself claimed before she was murdered by traffickers.

Furthermore, we can obviously not forget that in Petersen’s own words, she claimed that human trafficking was really happening at (in her own words) the “Clinton’s Caraol [sic] Complex.” Petersen’s own social media postings before her death, show she was very much aware of and deeply critical of the Clinton’s conduct in Haiti. She repeatedly derided the Clinton’s for what she considered to be their imperialistic, “crony” behavior in Haiti. For instance, Petersen pointed out in a Facebook post how Hillary Clinton’s own brother Tony Rodham, before he died was on the Board of Directors of a US-based mining company that literally owned a highly-lucrative gold mine in Haiti, the Morne Bossa mine, located very close to the Caracol Complex itself. Petersen openly speculated in the post if the Clinton brother and sister’s “intertwined” interests in both the gold mine and textile sweatshop in Haiti, is indicative of corrupt, “opportunistic” motivations on the part of the Clintons.

Considering all this, there is an even bigger, “1000 lb. elephant in the room”-type question that emerges here: what role, if any, might the Clintons and/or their political/business “cronies” have played in Monica Petersen’s murder in Haiti?? If human trafficking really was happening at Caracol, you have to ask the question: were the human traffickers allegedly at Caracol conducting their crimes “autonomously,” just acting as their own self-contained criminal group? Or were the alleged human traffickers in Caracol actually answering to someone or some group more powerful then just them? If the answer to this second question is yes, then which powerful person or persons were really directing the alleged human traffickers in Caracol?? Considering the Clintons deep, personal ties to Caracol, it is not too hard to perceive the incredibly dark truths this line of questioning may possibly lead to.

Mapping the “Silence” about Petersen’s Murder: University of Denver & the Korbel School
As stated previously, the Washington Post has remained completely silent about the news that Monica Petersen was really murdered in Haiti. Very notably, this silence has also extended to the University of Denver, Petersen’s former employer. Again, Petersen worked directly for this University as a Researcher for the Human Trafficking Center (HTC) up until the Spring of 2016, and she was murdered in Haiti later that very same year. Up until it permanently closed in Spring 2021, the HTC was literally one of the only, if not the only, graduate programs in the US with a curriculum focused on researching and combatting human trafficking crimes specifically.

Before it closed, the HTC was part of the Korbel School, an International Studies graduate program prestigious enough to have such notable alumni as Madeline Albrecht and Condoleezza Rice. I therefore find it highly odd that when the HTC program shut down, there was literally no press in the mainstream media about its closure at all. NOT one bit. No exaggeration, the only “press” I have seen about the HTC’s closure, was a single Facebook post announcing the HTC’s closing that was posted only on the Human Trafficking Center’s own Facebook page. Also very notably, the only public explanation I have seen given for WHY the HTC was permanently shut down after nearly two decades of operation, was a single statement within this same Facebook page, simply stating that the Korbel School “has decided to close” the HTC. Or in other words, no real explanation at all. For such a prestigious, as well as unique, graduate program, again why the near-total media-blackout about its closure? And why no real explanation for why the graduate program closed?

Significantly, back in 2022 I had a personal email correspondence with the Director of the Communications at the Korbel School at the U. of Denver (name withheld for privacy), regarding Monica Petersen and the closure of the Human Trafficking Center. Below is the email I sent to this person and their response:

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As you can see from this email correspondence, I asked very specific and detailed questions to this Communications Director. I asked for any specific details the Korbel School may have about Petersen’s human trafficking investigation in Haiti before she died there. I also asked for an actual, detailed explanation for why the U. of Denver and the Korbel School decided to permanently shut down the Human Trafficking Center. I further asked if the Korbel School and/or U. of Denver ever plans to publicly release Petersen’s Master Thesis that she wrote while attending the HTC as a student.

In response to these highly specific and detailed questions, all I got back was a terse, “boilerplate” response from the Communications Director. The Comms Director did not address my question about Petersen’s Master Thesis at all. The Director also notably provided me no information whatsoever about Petersen’s human trafficking research fieldwork in Haiti, either. The only information the Comms Director provided me about Petersen’s relationship with the Korbel School, were the two dates that Petersen started attending and graduated from the Korbel School. In regards to Petersen’s death in Haiti, the only responses I received from this U. of Denver contact, was that Petersen’s death was “… a private family matter.” Lastly, the only information the Comms Director gave me for why the HTC was closed, was that the program’s closure was “… due to a lack of financial resources” at the Korbel School.

The suspiciousness of this total “whitewash” of a response from the University of Denver, is only amplified massively by the much more recent news that Monica Petersen was indeed “murdered by traffickers” in Haiti. As the old saying goes, silence speaks louder than words. Considering this level of obfuscation and silence coming from both the Washington Post and the University of Denver regarding Petersen’s murder at this point, I would say silence is speaking a million times louder than words in this particular situation.
Now that we have confirmation that Petersen really was murdered in Haiti, I think now is truly the time to push forward with a real, honest investigation into the truth behind her murder. Let’s demand a REAL explanation for who really is responsible for Petersen’s death, and let’s demand that explanation from the Post, from the U. of Denver, and any other powerful institutions that may be complicit in covering all this up.

As MLK Jr. famously said, “the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.” Let us hope that the arc of justice will finally bring us to the truth of Petersen’s murder in the Haiti, and the real truth behind her human trafficking investigation there. The people of Haiti, suffering for years now from brutal gang warfare and massive internal civilian displacement, demand it. The time is NOW.
SOLIDARITY, STAY SAFE!!!!

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